[Isolators VI] Wednesdays @ 8PM EST
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Des, IMHO DB/WP is just asking for trouble, to make DB fun and and COMBOie you have to take quite a few of the attacks, and WP really doesn't have many skippable powers (the rez is the only one that comes to mind). THEN to really maximize a WP brute you need to pick up the fighting pool for some additional Def and Resist. I just think you will end up running out of power picks as well as slots if you make DB/WP.
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I understand where you are coming from. I have a level 50 DB/WP scrapper so I've fairly good idea what I'm getting into. Keep in mind, the only Dual Blade attacks you 'need' are Blinding Feint -Attack Vitals combo, but it requires a lot of recharge.
I suspect Will Power will perform decidedly better on a brute due to higher HP. I have this feeling DB/WP will be one of those few scenarios where I'll enjoy the combo better as a brute than a scrapper...maybe.
Since no one appreciated my clothed characters , I wanted a concept for another scantily clad one, Will Power fit the bill. More specifically, one in no way related to Desmodas lore.
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I suspect Will Power will perform decidedly better on a brute due to higher HP. I have this feeling DB/WP will be one of those few scenarios where I'll enjoy the combo better as a brute than a scrapper...maybe.
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It really doesn't, IMO. As masque said, maybe with tough and weave, it'd get better, but I'm not all that impressed as it stands. I've got a 41 EM/WP, and I end up yelling at the screen half the time "come on, regen faster!" just to keep up with the damage that he's taking. I don't reach my level of comfort* till after he's got thermal shields on.
*level of comfort is defined as, in my case "ok, that hurt, but i'm not in danger of dying"
Now granted, b/c he's only 41, there's no sets, so I'm sure once he gets fully suited up he could become a lot better. But as it is, I'm just not that overall impressed. I half wonder sometimes if I need to supliment with Aid Self since WP doesn't have the self heal for non-stalkers.
edited in: should also mention that I've only run this brute as a duo and now a solo on ruthless (that's the 4th one, Des), so +1 to +2. So, not even the level of folks one would normally see on an ISO's team, or the amount of baddies involved.
@Death Conqueror
-Goal for 2011: Survive, stay alive, and continue to thrive.
2 more cents: The difference between the scrapper and brute is in what mobs you fight. IMO there is a LOT more -res and-def villain side (not to mention a healthy dosing of -regen later on). Longbow alone will give you one hell of a hard time, regardless of the team, unless aggro is substantially divvied out. Hence you'll die more than usual
Don't want you to pull a "ViV DA Tanking is too hard" scenario :O
I've already forgotten about most of you
I feel that DB/WP made for an ok, but not spectacular Brute. The build was super tight but you were constantly putting out damage. The Fighting Pool is basically mandatory for WP though, and neither Boxing nor Kick work well with DB, so you end up with a completely wasted power in an already tight build.
I think something like MA/WP would make for a better combo. MA has a lot of optional powers, and it's dead simple to work boxing into the attack chain (Flyers may work in AS as well for even more power savings, at which point they may only have 3 powers from the primary!).
WP also gets a heck of a lot better once you start IOing up the character and getting those +HP Accolades.
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Don't want you to pull a "ViV DA Tanking is too boring" scenario :O
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The only thing particularly hard about tanking is the boredom. I'm not knocking tankers, I understand why many players like them. It's just not for me. That's not to say I would never role another tanker, just that I have to REALLY be in love with the concept to put up with it. Again, more to do with my play style preferences than any real 'difficulty' with playing tankers.
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WP also gets a heck of a lot better once you start IOing up the character and getting those +HP Accolades.
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Pretty much how I look at it.
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The Fighting Pool is basically mandatory for WP though, and neither Boxing nor Kick work well with DB, so you end up with a completely wasted power in an already tight build.
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I wouldn't say Fighting is mandatory, but I think you'll be hard pressed to find another pool that's as beneficial. Even APP seem lack luster compared to Fighting Pool. If you want to stack on any meaningful levels of defense, Weave is one of the easiest ways to go about it. I use Fighting pool on many Dark Armor, Will Power, and Invulnerable builds, in most cases, Boxing/Tough don't get slotted at all. There just aren't enough slots.
Will Power certainly has issues, but I like the secondary. My BS/WP and DM/WP scrapper play very well. My DB/WP scrapper is ...not on the same level.
Thinking of either a Earth/Ice Dom or a Electric/Storm corruptor. Can not make up my mind just yet.
I have two more people that would like to participate in ISO VI, if that is ok.
~*~VexXxa~*~
The City Scoop Art Correspondent/Writer "ART IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER"//"Don't hate because VexXxa is HOT and you're NOT." - JOHNNYKAT
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Count me In, gotta show some V support lol, just not sure exactly what i wanna do, nothings really caught my eye yet.
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Figure I'll be the good samaritan and ask if you know what you are getting into, know how this group operates, realize who you'll have to put up with, etc?
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He survived ISO V unscathed this time. I, however, still have the scars from ISO IV
~*~VexXxa~*~
The City Scoop Art Correspondent/Writer "ART IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER"//"Don't hate because VexXxa is HOT and you're NOT." - JOHNNYKAT
Yeah, I'd like to be in on this. I just need to figure out what I can be villainside. I finally have a work schedule that allows me to do things in the evenings.
If you will have me I will join.
Cat Bot v 1.36 : NRG/elec Blaster : Level 50
"I thought so." - Hank_Rearden
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Count me In, gotta show some V support lol, just not sure exactly what i wanna do, nothings really caught my eye yet.
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Figure I'll be the good samaritan and ask if you know what you are getting into, know how this group operates, realize who you'll have to put up with, etc?
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He survived ISO V unscathed this time. I, however, still have the scars from ISO IV
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Ah. The forum name didn't ring any bells.
I've already forgotten about most of you
Both TW and I are up for ISO 6. However, neither of us know what we're running. I'm tending to lean towards either a veat or a brute.
@Death Conqueror
-Goal for 2011: Survive, stay alive, and continue to thrive.
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I have two more people that would like to participate in ISO VI, if that is ok.
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The more the merrier... do you have forum names I can put in The List?
Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
The List
BOSH Undecided
_Bunny_ NB/Ninja Stalker
chumly Corruptor
Death_Conqueror Undecided
Desmodos DB/Will Brute
Grey_Pilgrim Thugs/Pain Dom MM
Horatus Sonic/Pain Dom Corruptor
Johnnykat Undecided
Kong_Fuu Thugs/Pain Dom MM
LuchaPants Undecided
The_Masque Elec/Stone Brute
Medieval_Power Wolfspider
Mental Giant AR/Pain Dom Corruptor
Mr_Magnifico Brute or MM
Raptured_savior Undecided
Tangerine_Witch Undecided
Toril Undecided
VexXxa Plant/Thorn Dominator
Viking698 Undecided
9 Undecided
3 Corruptors
2 MMs
2 Brutes
1 Dom
1 Stalker
1 Wolfspider
19 Total
Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
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I have two more people that would like to participate in ISO VI, if that is ok.
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The more the merrier... do you have forum names I can put in The List?
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@BOSH and @Johnnykat
~*~VexXxa~*~
The City Scoop Art Correspondent/Writer "ART IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER"//"Don't hate because VexXxa is HOT and you're NOT." - JOHNNYKAT
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The List
_Bunny_ NB/Ninja Stalker
chumly Corruptor
Death_Conqueror Undecided
Desmodos DB/Will Brute
Grey_Pilgrim Thugs/Pain Dom MM
Horatus Sonic/Pain Dom Corruptor
Kong_Fuu Thugs/Pain Dom MM
The_Masque Rad or Ice/Therm Corruptor
Medieval_Power Wolfspider
Mental Giant AR/Pain Dom Corruptor
Mr_Magnifico Brute or MM
Raptured_savior Undecided
Tangerine_Witch Undecided
VexXxa Plant/Thorn Dominator
Viking698 Undecided
5 Undecided
4 Corruptors
2 MMs
1 Brute
1 Dom
1 Stalker
1 Wolfspider
15 Total
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I'm playing. no me on the list.
<sigh> Viv says its no longer "all me".
http://wendy-mags.mybrute.com/
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
Switching from corr to elec/stone brute.
OMG MASQUE!!! Why am I on that dork's list? You and Roz were all over that guy like fly on fly paper because he was being an idiot and was too BUSY shooting his mouth off instead of fighting. You and Roz called him on his BS, all I did was say "knock it off so we can get this ITF done and move on!" He was surely a few brain cells shy of a brain!! GRRRR!!!
A classic case of "GUILT by ASSOCIATION"
~*~VexXxa~*~
The City Scoop Art Correspondent/Writer "ART IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER"//"Don't hate because VexXxa is HOT and you're NOT." - JOHNNYKAT
How am I not?
I've already forgotten about most of you
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I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Revisionist history is afoot!
<sigh> Viv says its no longer "all me".
http://wendy-mags.mybrute.com/
Oh man, its good to see my name on The List again. I forgot how awesome this community was.
Cat Bot v 1.36 : NRG/elec Blaster : Level 50
"I thought so." - Hank_Rearden
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Count me In, gotta show some V support lol, just not sure exactly what i wanna do, nothings really caught my eye yet.
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Figure I'll be the good samaritan and ask if you know what you are getting into, know how this group operates, realize who you'll have to put up with, etc?
I've already forgotten about most of you