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Erk. (looks through characters) Then... Other than the Ice/Fire/Elec blaster I brought last time, I think... The Kinetics/Radiation Defender might see the most value, but she'd take a lot of leveling.
Or my mostly retired MC/Emp troller; but I don't know if I want to put that much more effort into her; I've rerolled the character as an Illusion/Trick Arrow.
Does Hami do toxic damage? If so, that'd be a reason for FF; one of the shields adds toxic resistance.
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The blaster is a good enough toon to bring, given a lack of other alternatives. The emp would have been a good choice, but no sense in going to a lot of work to re-level the toon again.
As for the toxic damage, you are quite right. FF's deflection shield provides Toxic resistance, and insulation shield adds end drain resistance. Add in the AoE mez prtection, and bubblers are never turned away.
The Twilight Avengers, Guild Leader
@Wulf 1 or @Wulf 2
www.twilightavengers.com
Wulf,
Changed the MOTD on level 50 to announce a raid tonight! 
I'm at work so no HAMI time for me.. 
Have a great raid. 
Vix
Controllers and Defenders RULE!
Guardian is home.
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*finally gets around to reading the first post in the thread*
That was well written. You might want to edit section IV a bit though... instead of presenting it step-by-step for the raid as a whole, I think team-specific explanations would be more helpful.
Something like...
Hami Taunt Team: Go in, taunt the core, etc
Yellow Mito Taunt Team: Taunt from etc.
Yellow Kill Team: Watch the taunt teams go in, then go kill on the signal etc
Blue Kill Team: On signal, go blast stuff etc.
Green Kill Team: On signal, blah blah
Basically, what I'd like to see is something that if anyone is unsure on their role they can quickly glance at, find their responsibility.
ANYWAY. Tonight I'll be bringing my Blaster again, and hopefully a friend.
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*finally gets around to reading the first post in the thread*
That was well written. You might want to edit section IV a bit though... instead of presenting it step-by-step for the raid as a whole, I think team-specific explanations would be more helpful.
Something like...
Hami Taunt Team: Go in, taunt the core, etc
Yellow Mito Taunt Team: Taunt from etc.
Yellow Kill Team: Watch the taunt teams go in, then go kill on the signal etc
Blue Kill Team: On signal, go blast stuff etc.
Green Kill Team: On signal, blah blah
Basically, what I'd like to see is something that if anyone is unsure on their role they can quickly glance at, find their responsibility.
ANYWAY. Tonight I'll be bringing my Blaster again, and hopefully a friend.
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Just what makes you an expert?? OO my.... : eats fists so fingers wont type:
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*finally gets around to reading the first post in the thread*
That was well written. You might want to edit section IV a bit though... instead of presenting it step-by-step for the raid as a whole, I think team-specific explanations would be more helpful.
Something like...
Hami Taunt Team: Go in, taunt the core, etc
Yellow Mito Taunt Team: Taunt from etc.
Yellow Kill Team: Watch the taunt teams go in, then go kill on the signal etc
Blue Kill Team: On signal, go blast stuff etc.
Green Kill Team: On signal, blah blah
Basically, what I'd like to see is something that if anyone is unsure on their role they can quickly glance at, find their responsibility.
ANYWAY. Tonight I'll be bringing my Blaster again, and hopefully a friend.
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Just what makes you an expert?? OO my.... : eats fists so fingers wont type:
[/ QUOTE ]The fact that my degree and my job are all about clearly conveying information. =D I never claimed to be an expert in Hamidon Raids, I just think that the information could be displayed in a way such that it's easier for first time raiders. "Ok, I;m on a yellow Mito Kill Team.... what am I supposed to be doing now?"
I will admit that "listen carefully to the guy running the raid" can work well, but I've always felt that if you understand your role you can perform it more efficiently, without having to ask about every little thing.
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*finally gets around to reading the first post in the thread*
That was well written. You might want to edit section IV a bit though... instead of presenting it step-by-step for the raid as a whole, I think team-specific explanations would be more helpful.
Something like...
Hami Taunt Team: Go in, taunt the core, etc
Yellow Mito Taunt Team: Taunt from etc.
Yellow Kill Team: Watch the taunt teams go in, then go kill on the signal etc
Blue Kill Team: On signal, go blast stuff etc.
Green Kill Team: On signal, blah blah
Basically, what I'd like to see is something that if anyone is unsure on their role they can quickly glance at, find their responsibility.
ANYWAY. Tonight I'll be bringing my Blaster again, and hopefully a friend.
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Just what makes you an expert?? OO my.... : eats fists so fingers wont type:
[/ QUOTE ]The fact that my degree and my job are all about clearly conveying information. =D I never claimed to be an expert in Hamidon Raids, I just think that the information could be displayed in a way such that it's easier for first time raiders. "Ok, I;m on a yellow Mito Kill Team.... what am I supposed to be doing now?"
I will admit that "listen carefully to the guy running the raid" can work well, but I've always felt that if you understand your role you can perform it more efficiently, without having to ask about every little thing.
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Actually, to publish a guide for a process, which is what I was intending, the kind of structure you've suggested doesn't work as well as a step-by-step instruction manual in most cases.
However, I agree that folks who are only looking for their particular task can sometimes find it easier for the information to be laid out in a "if this is me, this is what I do" format. Because of that, I will ask anyone who is unsure of his or her task to get that information from their respective team leaders while we are getting formed up. This is easy enough, as I try not to have any team leaders who don't know the primary task(s) of their teams.
I may also look to add a bit of information to the guide, describing in the "Set-Up" section not only who is on each team, but what that team's primary responsability is. Do you think this will answer the need you've identified without restructuring the entire guide?
Here's hoping we have enough to raid tonight (with the Halloween Event ongoing). I will make a call no later than 9:45 if we have enough to start farming DE. By 10 EST, we will 1) have enough to raid and continue farming, 2) spawn the Hamidon and have enough to raid, or 3) not have enough to raid or continue farming DE (in which case I will tell everyone to have a nice night and come back next week).
Hope to see folks there!
The Twilight Avengers, Guild Leader
@Wulf 1 or @Wulf 2
www.twilightavengers.com
You make a very important point that I failed to take into consideration; just how much time do you want to put into this guide.
As for redoing the whole thing, my intent was to just have that portion on part IV 2 & 3 changed, as that's the only case where the teams really have different things to do; after that it becomes 'beat on Hami' and 'run!'
Also, I thought color coding parts would make it easier to spot what you were looking for.
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You make a very important point that I failed to take into consideration; just how much time do you want to put into this guide.
As for redoing the whole thing, my intent was to just have that portion on part IV 2 & 3 changed, as that's the only case where the teams really have different things to do; after that it becomes 'beat on Hami' and 'run!'
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I'll look at it and see if there's a way to upgrade the info without significantly altering the structure. I will say that, while color-coding helps, I find that if you use more than 3 colors it becomes more confusing than helpful at times. We'll see...
The Twilight Avengers, Guild Leader
@Wulf 1 or @Wulf 2
www.twilightavengers.com
Thanks to those who came out tonight. Hami took a little while to spawn, and the conbination of some folks new to raiding and not having the best combination of toons meant for a slightly longer raid.
But when all was said and done, we had another successful raid under our belts. Nice work to all, and hope to see you there next week at 9:30 EST!
The Twilight Avengers, Guild Leader
@Wulf 1 or @Wulf 2
www.twilightavengers.com
About that trouble... next week I'd like to see if we can put my blaster in the green mito team, cuz I think that MIGHT help. She's got 2 single target holds, hold procs in two single target powers, and the Vanguard accolade, so while she wouldn't be as good as another controller for holds, she would be able to help stack the holds on.
Anyway, I for one am fully planning to be there next week!
Hey Wulf,
This a go this week? If so, ill change the MOTD for ya..
Vix
Controllers and Defenders RULE!
Guardian is home.
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Totally gorgeous and amazing human female. With the cutest smile and a sweet body. Loves partying and drinks a lot but is still incredibly smart. But be warned, may jump you unexpectedly.
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About that trouble... next week I'd like to see if we can put my blaster in the green mito team, cuz I think that MIGHT help. She's got 2 single target holds, hold procs in two single target powers, and the Vanguard accolade, so while she wouldn't be as good as another controller for holds, she would be able to help stack the holds on.
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We actually had another team that was responsible for helping with geen mito damage, so it wasn't a big deal. We might do this if we are running short on people, but otherwise we'd put blasters on the blue mito team first.
The Twilight Avengers, Guild Leader
@Wulf 1 or @Wulf 2
www.twilightavengers.com
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Hey Wulf,
This a go this week? If so, ill change the MOTD for ya..
Vix
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Barring anything unforeseen, I'll be there ready to go.
The Twilight Avengers, Guild Leader
@Wulf 1 or @Wulf 2
www.twilightavengers.com
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Hey Wulf,
This a go this week? If so, ill change the MOTD for ya..
Vix
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The unforeseen has happened. I'm suffering from a migraine, so I won't be on tonight. Sorry for the late notice all. Hopefully, someone else will step up to lead the raid tonight, and I'll be back next week.
The Twilight Avengers, Guild Leader
@Wulf 1 or @Wulf 2
www.twilightavengers.com
Get better Wulfman and we'll see you next week.
Comic and Hero/Villain Culture
Saturday January 29th, 2005 (12:37 PM) ~ Monday August 9th, 2010
Those Who Lived It Will Remember Long after your Ban Hammer Crumbles and the servers flicker dead.
We Will Remember This One Moment In Time! ~ Shadow Ravenwolf
ALOHA Wulfman....
Raid tonite?? let me know and ill change the MOTD on lvl 50...
Vix
Controllers and Defenders RULE!
Guardian is home.
Vixen defined by urbandictionary.com:
Totally gorgeous and amazing human female. With the cutest smile and a sweet body. Loves partying and drinks a lot but is still incredibly smart. But be warned, may jump you unexpectedly.
Yup. 9:30 EST the DE start falling.
The Twilight Avengers, Guild Leader
@Wulf 1 or @Wulf 2
www.twilightavengers.com
Thanks to all who came out tonight for another successful raid. Special thanks to Cranky Rad, Wizona Fyre, Nemo, Dash Bleu, and DevilsWill for leading the teams.
The raid tonight did take us a little longer than some we've done recently (about an hour and 5 minutes). There were three primary reasons for this.
1) There were people who weren't listening to those leading the raid, whether myself or their designated team leader. As such, they were trying to do their own thing, and working against the rest of us in the process.
2) People assumed that, because they had raided before, they knew how to do it. Anyone who has raided recently will tell you that not only is raiding Hami very different from the pre-i9 version, but the strat we use now has evolved significantly from the one used immediately after the i9 version was introduced. This is one of the reasons everyone needs to listen to the raid leaders (see #1, above). If you want to make sure you know what you're doing, read the strategy that is posted at the beginning of this thread. If it doesn't make sense, or you don't know why a change was made, feel free to message me here or in-game, and I'll be glad to chat about it with you.
3) The leechers have started showing up again. There were a handful of folks who simply stood to one side and refused invites to teams or to participate other than to get a hit at the end. Those who are guilty of this need to find something else to do so there's room for more people who want to help (there were people trying to get into the zone who couldn't) or start contributing. I doubt we'll ever get to a point where we can have "closed" raids to ensure that leechers don't hurt everyone else's effort....but it certainly would be nice.
Still, despite these things, the raid was successful, and most of the folks there seemed to have some fun and get a decent reward in the process. And with the merit system that is coming with i13, these may be popular enough to run an extra time each week (whether another night or back-to-back), as a successful raid will award 40 merits.
The Twilight Avengers, Guild Leader
@Wulf 1 or @Wulf 2
www.twilightavengers.com
Congratulations on another successful Jell-O Party!
Personally, I'm having trouble making it to the raids. This semester has my schedule all over the place. I work overnight weekends (12-18 hour shifts) with classes during the week screwing up my sleep schedule. I feel like a zombie lately.
With about 5 weeks left in the semester, I'll be hard to find in game. However, December 12th till 1st week of Jan. I'll be running hardcore during the weekdays/nights again. I'll be able to join in some Jell-O fun then.
See you all soon.
Comic and Hero/Villain Culture
Saturday January 29th, 2005 (12:37 PM) ~ Monday August 9th, 2010
Those Who Lived It Will Remember Long after your Ban Hammer Crumbles and the servers flicker dead.
We Will Remember This One Moment In Time! ~ Shadow Ravenwolf
Hey,
glad to see it worked out last night. Just keep me posted on if/when you are doing them Wulf and ill keep updating the MOTD.
Vix
Controllers and Defenders RULE!
Guardian is home.
Vixen defined by urbandictionary.com:
Totally gorgeous and amazing human female. With the cutest smile and a sweet body. Loves partying and drinks a lot but is still incredibly smart. But be warned, may jump you unexpectedly.
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Thanks to all who came out tonight for another successful raid. Special thanks to Cranky Rad, Wizona Fyre, Nemo, Dash Bleu, and DevilsWill for leading the teams.
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Thanks to everyone for another fun & successful raid. Wulf, I just wanted to give credit where credit is due: Blade Mistress was the leader of Yellow Damage Team #2. Dash Bleu merely followed her lead and tried to keep an eye out for teamless new arrivals to The Hive in order to help her fill out our team's ranks.
--Chris
Thanks for the fun raid! This was my fifth Hami raid I believe, and though I got a serious smackdown from my girlfriend for participating when I should have been studying, cleaning, exercising, or in some other way interacting with the "real" world, I can't wait for the next one.*
I don't understand the leeching -- if they would just participate, they wouldn't have to sit there and do nothing for quite so long... it's downright odd if you ask me.
*Please don't tell her I said this.
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Thanks to all who came out tonight for another successful raid. Special thanks to Cranky Rad, Wizona Fyre, Nemo, Dash Bleu, and DevilsWill for leading the teams.
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Thanks to everyone for another fun & successful raid. Wulf, I just wanted to give credit where credit is due: Blade Mistress was the leader of Yellow Damage Team #2. Dash Bleu merely followed her lead and tried to keep an eye out for teamless new arrivals to The Hive in order to help her fill out our team's ranks.
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Noted. Thanks to Blade Mistress, then....and no thanks for you!
The Twilight Avengers, Guild Leader
@Wulf 1 or @Wulf 2
www.twilightavengers.com
Even though it took a little longer than some raids, I enjoyed this one more than usual. The folks on my troller team were great! Some had raided before and some had not, but all of them did a great job and did not forget to have fun in the process.
Erk. (looks through characters) Then... Other than the Ice/Fire/Elec blaster I brought last time, I think... The Kinetics/Radiation Defender might see the most value, but she'd take a lot of leveling.
Or my mostly retired MC/Emp troller; but I don't know if I want to put that much more effort into her; I've rerolled the character as an Illusion/Trick Arrow.
Does Hami do toxic damage? If so, that'd be a reason for FF; one of the shields adds toxic resistance.