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*stares at a locked out Freedom*

Ael Rhiana

By Ael Rhiana,
Posted on: 2008-02-08 20:21 in Freedom

 

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Poor Turg

 

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maybe thats the fix, free transfers but what do i do with rest of sg and folks ive come to know over the years?

 

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they'd never make transfers free. too many people believe that it costs them money to do (because they made it out to be that way,) when they've been doing free transfers to test for years.

 

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Please. Server transfers are there for you to make an extra buck. It was seen that transferring to freedom and virtue was profitable, so it wasn't halted for sake of the server populations. Now it lands us here.

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All of which assumes that server transfers are the only reason that Freedom is currently greyed out. There are also new players and people playing alts to consider.

Freedom going grey ISN'T just because everyone transferred to it, but because it's already a well populated server that has just set some unprecedented records. Unless everyone is fine with Freedom being locked down permanently - no transfers, no new characters able to be created on it - just so that for maybe 4 days a year 'native' Freedomites can play, then this isn't something that NC^2 can just fix or worth getting angry at them for.

 

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they'd never make transfers free. too many people believe that it costs them money to do (because they made it out to be that way,) when they've been doing free transfers to test for years.

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The Test server is a 'use at your own risk' environment that allows you to create multiple copies of a character. Server transfers require things to work correctly and ties back to a player's account.

And regardless, a $10 fee is a good gate to stop people transferring with abandon.

 

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so as an original buyer of this game I get screwed because nc didnt have brains enough to cut off the influx of players on the server? I notice they dont have a problem billing my account every month. Maybe my server should go down.

 

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Not real hard, you see the overload coming you dont allow new players on a server.

 

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to get to the truth, always follow the money trail

Tink

 

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This might seem unfair to other servers but have you guys considered letting characters transfer from Freedom to the other servers for free or at least for a reduced price?

 

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This might seem unfair to other servers but have you guys considered letting characters transfer from Freedom to the other servers for free or at least for a reduced price?

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That WAS one of the discussed avenues when they were drawing up the plans for server transfers, DD. It was decided, correctly I think, to permit transfers to any/all servers for a small fee as it was the fairest approach to the process.

At least this way, hey, we're stress testing the servers now for a seriously solid shakedown. And we're not locking out players unfairly in comparison to other servers; at least we're all on the same playing field now.

Time for sleep. Whatta roller coaster...

 

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Got dollars to donuts says they are still allowing new players on freedom. I think im just gonna drop this account and find a new game.

 

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If server transfers FROM Freedom were free, who would go?

Part of this situation is because people begged and pleaded for the ability to transfer TO Freedom, even after the Devs warned that this situation might happen.

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So they knew this was gonna happen but dam the torpedoes lets screw our long time folks?
We are not on the same field, i cant get in with ny paid every month account.
Charge to change servers?
Youve lost your mind

 

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If server transfers FROM Freedom were free, who would go?

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Maybe transfers FROM Freedom should be decided by popular vote?

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i wish we could vote off all those korean farmers, nobody wants them here

 

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[censored] it im goin to bed

 

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OK THEN EXTEND DBL XP TO ALL WEEK! Cause to me this is a wasted event since i cant touch my characters

 

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Do people really believe that several thousand people paid $10 per toon to transfer to Freedom and that all of them are currently playing right now filling up the expanded server capacity?

Yeah, blame server transfers.

The NSCoft rep has told you all what has happened: In previous 2xXP weekends, Freedom had hit a game engine cap. The server ground down, people were being disconnected, and others stopped playing because they couldn't endure the lag and rubberbanding. When such things happen, the server itself crashes and everyone is kicked off. Those who were dedicated enough logged back on, the rest stopped playing in disgust. That's how the game used to be capped.

Now, the engine can handle more people. And rather than stressing the engine and ruining everyone's experience and letting the grinding down and disconnects and disgust and crash cap the population, they are capping the population before service degenerates that badly.

If they didn't do this, you would still be able to log on to a lagfest that would eventually boot you anyway.

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Wow ( ) what a bunch of whiners. There's some games out there where lockouts are daily. Or wow ( ) there's a queue to login to the game where you could sit for 30 min just waiting to play. And server transfers are only one way and only to clear off those high population servers. I mean wow ( ) we're talking about ONE weekend here, maybe two out of a whole year, where we get anything as bad as some other games offer EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.

Perspective people... get some. Go try some other games and see how good this one really is in comparison.

 

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If server transfers FROM Freedom were free, who would go?

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Maybe transfers FROM Freedom should be decided by popular vote?

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i wish we could vote off all those korean farmers, nobody wants them here

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And how many thousand of them do you think there are on that one particular server?

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Do people really believe that several thousand people paid $10 per toon to transfer to Freedom and that all of them are currently playing right now filling up the expanded server capacity?

Yeah, blame server transfers.

The NSCoft rep has told you all what has happened: In previous 2xXP weekends, Freedom had hit a game engine cap. The server ground down, people were being disconnected, and others stopped playing because they couldn't endure the lag and rubberbanding. When such things happen, the server itself crashes and everyone is kicked off. Those who were dedicated enough logged back on, the rest stopped playing in disgust. That's how the game used to be capped.

Now, the engine can handle more people. And rather than stressing the engine and ruining everyone's experience and letting the grinding down and disconnects and disgust and crash cap the population, they are capping the population before service degenerates that badly.

If they didn't do this, you would still be able to log on to a lagfest that would eventually boot you anyway.

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1. I don't believe anyone here really thinks it's everyone transferring a toon to Freedom that's locking us out.

2. I DO believe that most of us feel it's alt-server players getting a toon PL'd here that's locking the natives out.

3. If the engine can handle more people, then let it. LET it get to that point where the lag and rubberbanding starts affecting everyone, because then it's affecting EVERYONE HERE, instead of locking out longtime players who just had the misfortune of having to come home from work and have dinner before logging in to find the place locked, and all the PL maps being maxed out.

Eventual Lagfest = most egalitarian way of spreading the pain around, instead of rewarding the seeded farmers and penalizing the regular players.

Repeating what Lighthouse originally said doesn't make us buy it any more than the first time, Zombie. Heck, he came around and said "hokay, it's unlocked now" to address the outcry of the native population. That was, I think, the most appropriate response in this situation.

 

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If server transfers FROM Freedom were free, who would go?

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Maybe transfers FROM Freedom should be decided by popular vote?

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i wish we could vote off all those korean farmers, nobody wants them here

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And how many thousand of them do you think there are on that one particular server?

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Take each farmer and multiply that by 8 to see the problems they cause on one particular server. It's not just the farmers, it's their customers jonesing for the PL. Factor ALL of those people in, and yeah, I'd prolly place the headcount around 750-1500.

 

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This sounds like a job for free server transfer tokens.