Ultimus' TankMage Mastermind -- List of AV's OWNED
By
Akuma_Mishima,
Posted on: 2007-12-24 23:19 in Masterminds
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No meaness taken. If you arent up to the challenge thats fine.
Oh and perhaps I should have stated....parameters for the Iron Man challenge include: No Enhancers, You are Debuffed, Enemies are buffed.
But if you think your godlike toon cant handle such a powerdown challenge, well thats fine.
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Yes thats boring to me. My goal is the create the most powerful character without limitations. (Limitation being no temps)
I could go from 1-50 on a character with just using brawl and no enhancements. It'd be about as fun as gouging my eyes out. Flashing back to the early arcs where you lose your powers, no enhancements, debuffing yourself, and buffing enemies is on about the same scale of fun as the above in my opinion.
It also does not show skill either in my opinion. To create a metaphor, you cannot say Michael Jordan was not the best basketball player unless he could play one handed while hopping on one foot because even if he could do that a guy with both his feet and both his hands would beat him. Thus, limitations do not display a person's skill.
[/ QUOTE ]I don't want to read through all the pages and posts right now, but I don't care how many AVs or GMs you can solo as an MM without nukes or Shivans; the instant you can solo Calstyx(sp?) from that one arc where you face her in that cave where she summons her coral guardians, then I'll be impressed.
Matter of fact, try soloing her with no temp powers, go right ahead, I'll save this thread to favorites for IE and the forums. You can even PM me if you already have done it or ever pull it off.
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It was already done... in fact I think it is was in my first post.
Edit: Yep just checked it is in the first post of this thread...
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he actually did that a long awhile ago... no temps, and few inspirations if i remember correctly. ill give Ultimus this much, he has a powerful character, but as others have stated. a well played bot/traps/anything is pretty powerful in itself. it just wasnt discovered for some time, so many didnt know its true power until well.. now?
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It wasn't so much that it wasn't discovered, it was that everyone was busy worshiping /Dark and /Poison and didn't realize there were other Secondaries, especially till i9. I've had my Robot/Traps/Soul since CoV came out, and still play him after 50. Never really got into /Dark or /Poison cuz it was way too boring, like FF.
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No meaness taken. If you arent up to the challenge thats fine.
Oh and perhaps I should have stated....parameters for the Iron Man challenge include: No Enhancers, You are Debuffed, Enemies are buffed.
But if you think your godlike toon cant handle such a powerdown challenge, well thats fine.
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Yes thats boring to me. My goal is the create the most powerful character without limitations. (Limitation being no temps)
I could go from 1-50 on a character with just using brawl and no enhancements. It'd be about as fun as gouging my eyes out. Flashing back to the early arcs where you lose your powers, no enhancements, debuffing yourself, and buffing enemies is on about the same scale of fun as the above in my opinion.
It also does not show skill either in my opinion. To create a metaphor, you cannot say Michael Jordan was not the best basketball player unless he could play one handed while hopping on one foot because even if he could do that a guy with both his feet and both his hands would beat him. Thus, limitations do not display a person's skill.
[/ QUOTE ]I don't want to read through all the pages and posts right now, but I don't care how many AVs or GMs you can solo as an MM without nukes or Shivans; the instant you can solo Calstyx(sp?) from that one arc where you face her in that cave where she summons her coral guardians, then I'll be impressed.
Matter of fact, try soloing her with no temp powers, go right ahead, I'll save this thread to favorites for IE and the forums. You can even PM me if you already have done it or ever pull it off.
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It was already done... in fact I think it is was in my first post.
Edit: Yep just checked it is in the first post of this thread...
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Yeah, a well played Bots/Traps can do essentially anything, I had to get a duo with her because I have a thugs/poison, the one which requires constant maintanence.
Global - @Proton Sentinel
Jack Devon Crab Spider VEAT; Virtue
Mordigen Earth/Storm on Liberty and Virtue
Technological Terror Bots/FF; Liberty.
50s: Zul Vakirol Thugs/Poison; Virtue. Kiyujin Katana/SR
btw ARCH-A is actually code name for the Behemoth so you fought the Behemoth twice, not actually 2 different AV's
You know, for someone who's always trying to nerf herd EM, particularly since your beloved Rage changes, you sure do like to flaunt about soloing things that aren't standardly meant to be soloed.
Hey Ultimus, how did you solo Silver Mantis at level 24? How did you keep the aggro on you? I don't have vetran attacks so should I take provoke at level 24 instead of hasten? 
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Hey Ultimus, how did you solo Silver Mantis at level 24? How did you keep the aggro on you? I don't have vetran attacks so should I take provoke at level 24 instead of hasten?
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No veteran attacks will make aggroing her hard. You need both provoke and hasten in this case.
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Hey Ultimus, how did you solo Silver Mantis at level 24? How did you keep the aggro on you? I don't have vetran attacks so should I take provoke at level 24 instead of hasten?
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No veteran attacks will make aggroing her hard. You need both provoke and hasten in this case.
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What about the Plasma Blast and/or just Sands of Mu?
Also, does defensive position really help that much or is there something else that you are using (I'm talking about at level 24)
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Hey Ultimus, how did you solo Silver Mantis at level 24? How did you keep the aggro on you? I don't have vetran attacks so should I take provoke at level 24 instead of hasten?
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No veteran attacks will make aggroing her hard. You need both provoke and hasten in this case.
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What about the Plasma Blast and/or just Sands of Mu?
Also, does defensive position really help that much or is there something else that you are using (I'm talking about at level 24)
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1) Never get the Mastermind attacks, they are worthless.
2) Sands of Mu will help -- Reason Veteran attacks are good is because they do not have the MM damage mod.
3) Triage Beacon, Defensive Mode, positioning, and Poison Trap will help you. Maybe even bring a few purples and use 1 or 2 at a time.
mastermind attacks do suck, but you can slot some nice things in them to make it worth taking.. Devastion is one good set, gives decent bonuses for three slots (thats wasting two on a MM power.. which really isnt hard considering) and you can always slot the +rech proc in them, which procs ALOT, and gives you 100% rech for 5 seconds (very easily stacked by the way) which can really help with getting posion trap and triage back up quickly. just FYI
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Hey Ultimus, how did you solo Silver Mantis at level 24? How did you keep the aggro on you? I don't have vetran attacks so should I take provoke at level 24 instead of hasten?
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No veteran attacks will make aggroing her hard. You need both provoke and hasten in this case.
[/ QUOTE ] Oh great...
What about the Plasma Blast and/or just Sands of Mu?
Also, does defensive position really help that much or is there something else that you are using (I'm talking about at level 24)
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1) Never get the Mastermind attacks, they are worthless.
2) Sands of Mu will help -- Reason Veteran attacks are good is because they do not have the MM damage mod.
3) Triage Beacon, Defensive Mode, positioning, and Poison Trap will help you. Maybe even bring a few purples and use 1 or 2 at a time.
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I got the Plasma Rifle attack thing, I know it stinks but I have to keep it until Vet attacks
Also, against Silver Mantis I noticed you had your pets actually around her and not away from her, how do you prevent your pets from dieing from her AoE's and Cones?
Also how do you have Triage Becon slotted at that level? Was it good then? Did it heal well and have the Recharge taken down to Perma?
6 slotted with Recharge and heals.
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6 slotted with Recharge and heals.
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Also, why haven't you been posting here lately?
and again, with silver mantis's AoE's and Cones and in those pictures they where right next to them, why aren' they dieing?
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6 slotted with Recharge and heals.
[/ QUOTE ] 3 heals and 3 Recharges?
Also, why haven't you been posting here lately?
and again, with silver mantis's AoE's and Cones and in those pictures they where right next to them, why aren' they dieing?
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Yes thats correct.
I just haven't upload screenshots. I got some cool ones from Viridian's Arc where I wiped out all the council AV leaders.
My robots weren't in AOE range.
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6 slotted with Recharge and heals.
[/ QUOTE ] 3 heals and 3 Recharges?
Also, why haven't you been posting here lately?
and again, with silver mantis's AoE's and Cones and in those pictures they where right next to them, why aren' they dieing?
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Yes thats correct.
I just haven't upload screenshots. I got some cool ones from Viridian's Arc where I wiped out all the council AV leaders.
My robots weren't in AOE range.
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Was it SO's or IO's at level 24 that you slotted into Triage Becon?
Also, would it be a good idea to put my ASSBOT (when I get him, only 3 more levels!) in melee with a Triage Becon to keep the aggro of the AV while I have the Protector Bots in middle range able to heal the Assault Bot if the Triage Becon and Aid Other isn't enough and have the Battle drones far away in max range?
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6 slotted with Recharge and heals.
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Also, why haven't you been posting here lately?
and again, with silver mantis's AoE's and Cones and in those pictures they where right next to them, why aren' they dieing?
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Yes thats correct.
I just haven't upload screenshots. I got some cool ones from Viridian's Arc where I wiped out all the council AV leaders.
My robots weren't in AOE range.
[/ QUOTE ] It looked like the were next to her.
Was it SO's or IO's at level 24 that you slotted into Triage Becon?
Also, would it be a good idea to put my ASSBOT (when I get him, only 3 more levels!) in melee with a Triage Becon to keep the aggro of the AV while I have the Protector Bots in middle range able to heal the Assault Bot if the Triage Becon and Aid Other isn't enough and have the Battle drones far away in max range?
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I was next to her because I was tanking her. It is not a good idea to use your T3 to tank. I had IO's at that level, the level 25 generic IO's.
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6 slotted with Recharge and heals.
[/ QUOTE ] 3 heals and 3 Recharges?
Also, why haven't you been posting here lately?
and again, with silver mantis's AoE's and Cones and in those pictures they where right next to them, why aren' they dieing?
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Yes thats correct.
I just haven't upload screenshots. I got some cool ones from Viridian's Arc where I wiped out all the council AV leaders.
My robots weren't in AOE range.
[/ QUOTE ] It looked like the were next to her.
Was it SO's or IO's at level 24 that you slotted into Triage Becon?
Also, would it be a good idea to put my ASSBOT (when I get him, only 3 more levels!) in melee with a Triage Becon to keep the aggro of the AV while I have the Protector Bots in middle range able to heal the Assault Bot if the Triage Becon and Aid Other isn't enough and have the Battle drones far away in max range?
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I was next to her because I was tanking her. It is not a good idea to use your T3 to tank. I had IO's at that level, the level 25 generic IO's.
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also how much did the IO's cost and how much were they?
here is my build at the moment, is it good enough, also what is your build?
01 => Web Grenade
Empty(1)
01 => Battle Drones
Damage(1)
Damage(3)
Damage(3)
Accuracy(5)
Accuracy(5)
02 => Pulse Rifle Burst
Damage(2)
04 => Triage Beacon
Heal(4)
Heal(7)
Heal(7)
Empty(9)
Empty(9)
Empty(11)
06 => Equip Robot
Empty(6)
08 => Combat Jumping
Empty(8)
10 => Acid Mortar
Attack Rate(10)
Empty(11)
Empty(17)
12 => Protector Bots
Damage(12)
Damage(13)
Damage(13)
Accuracy(15)
Accuracy(15)
Empty(17)
14 => Super Jump
Empty(14)
16 => Force Field Generator
Defense Buff(16)
18 => Aid Other
Heal(18)
Empty(19)
Empty(19)
20 => Poison Trap
Attack Rate(20)
Attack Rate(21)
Empty(21)
22 => Aid Self
Heal(22)
Heal(23)
Heal(23)
01 => Sprint
Empty()
01 => Brawl
Empty()
02 => Rest
Empty()
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Here is the build I want, (when I get my Vet Attacks, Ill drop the gun for calrops, also caltrops listed in the build should actually be Triage Becon 6 slotted with Doctored Wounds)
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Name: N/A
Level: 50
Archetype: Mastermind
Primary: Robotics
Secondary: Traps
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01 => Web Grenade
IO - Enfeebled Operation : Accuracy,Endurance Cost (1)
IO - Enfeebled Operation : Accuracy,Immobilize (9)
01 => Battle Drones
IO - Blood Mandate : Damage,Accuracy (1)
IO - Blood Mandate : Damage,Endurance Cost (3)
IO - Blood Mandate : Damage,Endurance Cost,Accuracy (3)
IO - Commanding Presence : Damage,Accuracy (5)
IO - Brilliant Leadership : Damage,Accuracy (5)
IO - Sovereign Right : PBAoE (20 feet) Pet Res(all but Psionic) (7)
02 => Pulse Rifle Burst
IO - Volley Fire : Damage,Accuracy (2)
IO - Volley Fire : Damage,Attack Rate (9)
IO - Volley Fire : Damage,Endurance Cost (31)
IO - Salvo : Damage,Accuracy (37)
IO - Maelstroms Fury : Damage,Accuracy (43)
KnockBack Distance(45)
04 => Caltrops
IO - Pacing of the Turtle Pacing of the Turtle: Damage,Slow (4)
06 => Equip Robot
Attack Rate(6)
Endurance Cost(7)
08 => Combat Jumping
IO - Unbounded Leap : Jump (8)
10 => Acid Mortar
Attack Rate(10)
Attack Rate(11)
Attack Rate(11)
Defense DeBuff(15)
12 => Protector Bots
IO - Blood Mandate : Damage,Accuracy (12)
IO - Blood Mandate : Damage,Endurance Cost (13)
IO - Commanding Presence : Damage,Accuracy (13)
IO - Sovereign Right : PBAoE (20 feet) Pet Res(all but Psionic) (15)
Defense Buff(23)
Disorient Duration(23)
14 => Super Jump
IO - Unbounded Leap : Jump (14)
16 => Force Field Generator
Defense Buff(16)
Defense Buff(17)
IO - Luck of the Gambler Luck of the Gambler: Defense Buff,Endurance Cost (17)
IO - Karma : Defense Buff,Endurance Cost (40)
18 => Aid Other
IO - Doctored Wounds : Heal,Endurance Cost (18)
IO - Doctored Wounds : Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (19)
IO - Doctored Wounds : Heal,Attack Rate (19)
20 => Poison Trap
Attack Rate(20)
Attack Rate(21)
Attack Rate(21)
http://www.cohplanner.com/img/ios/Ghost Widows Embrace(40)
http://www.cohplanner.com/img/ios/Ghost Widows Embrace(40)
22 => Aid Self
IO - Doctored Wounds : Heal,Endurance Cost (22)
IO - Doctored Wounds : Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (25)
IO - Doctored Wounds : Heal,Attack Rate (25)
IO - Doctored Wounds : Heal,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (39)
IO - Doctored Wounds : Heal (39)
24 => Provoke
Taunt Effectiveness(24)
Taunt Effectiveness(46)
Attack Rate(46)
Attack Rate(46)
26 => Assault Bot
IO - Blood Mandate : Damage,Accuracy (26)
IO - Blood Mandate : Damage,Endurance Cost (27)
IO - Blood Mandate : Accuracy,Endurance Cost (27)
IO - Blood Mandate : Damage,Endurance Cost,Accuracy (29)
IO - Blood Mandate : Accuracy (31)
IO - Blood Mandate : Damage (at 0.5 value) (31)
28 => Seeker Drones
IO - Stupefy : Damage,Accuracy (28)
IO - Stupefy : Damage,Stun (29)
IO - Stupefy : Accuracy,Endurance Cost (33)
IO - Stupefy : Stun,Range (33)
IO - Stupefy : Endurance Cost,Range,Attack Rate (33)
IO - Stupefy : 20% chance of 6.0 Knockup (34)
30 => Swift
IO - Celerity : RunSpeed (30)
32 => Upgrade Robot
Attack Rate(32)
Endurance Cost(34)
Endurance Cost(34)
35 => Trip Mine
IO - Positrons Blast : Damage,Accuracy (35)
IO - Positrons Blast : Damage,Endurance Cost (36)
IO - Positrons Blast : Damage,Attack Rate (36)
IO - Positrons Blast : Damage,Range (36)
IO - Positrons Blast : Damage,Endurance Cost,Accuracy (37)
IO - Positrons Blast : 20% chance of 0.42 * Melee_Damage (Energy) (37)
38 => Health
IO - Miracle : Heal (38)
IO - Miracle : 12.5% Recovery (39)
41 => Stamina
Endurance Modification(41)
Endurance Modification(42)
Endurance Modification(42)
Endurance Modification(42)
Endurance Modification(43)
Endurance Modification(43)
44 => Charged Armor
IO - Steadfast Protection : Damage Resistance,Endurance Cost (44)
Damage Resistance(45)
Damage Resistance(45)
47 => Electrifying Fences
IO - Enfeebled Operation : Damage,Accuracy (47)
IO - Enfeebled Operation : Accuracy,Endurance Cost (48)
IO - Positrons Blast : Damage,Endurance Cost (48)
IO - Positrons Blast : Damage,Endurance Cost,Accuracy (48)
49 => Electric Shackles
IO - Volley Fire : Damage,Accuracy (49)
IO - Volley Fire : Damage,Attack Rate (50)
IO - Paralytic : Damage,Hold (50)
IO - Paralytic : Accuracy,Endurance Cost (50)
01 => Sprint
Microfilament Exposure()
01 => Brawl
Nucleolus Exposure()
02 => Rest
Golgi Exposure()
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Generic IO's don't cost much. They are cheap to build too. I don't use set IO's until after 35.
Here's how my power selection went up to 24:
1) Bots/WebGrenade
2) Caltrops
4) Triage
6) Upgrade
8) Hasten
10) Acid Mortar
12) Prot Bot
14) Swift
16) FFG
18) Health
20) Stamina
22) Poison Gas
24) Super Speed
If you want to solo AV's at this level, you need to follow this build. Without Hasten and Stamina you won't stand a chance.
And someone will come in here and said they did it without this build -- Good for you, but I am min/maxing.
if you don't have taunt at 24 how do you keep aggro off your pets?
"Sometimes you have to roll the Hard Six." -- Adama
Teabagging Ms. Liberty - http://kk-comics.com/allmmproject/rsf21.jpg
very carefully, and keeping them out of range.. most mobs, when your throwing things at them (caltrops, web nades, etc) will target the closest thing to them.. i/e YOU, as your bots are down the road shotting them with laser cannons..
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Generic IO's don't cost much. They are cheap to build too. I don't use set IO's until after 35.
Here's how my power selection went up to 24:
1) Bots/WebGrenade
2) Caltrops
4) Triage
6) Upgrade
8) Hasten
10) Acid Mortar
12) Prot Bot
14) Swift
16) FFG
18) Health
20) Stamina
22) Poison Gas
24) Super Speed
If you want to solo AV's at this level, you need to follow this build. Without Hasten and Stamina you won't stand a chance.
And someone will come in here and said they did it without this build -- Good for you, but I am min/maxing.
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Insps are fair game in the AV world.
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any AT could solo an AV with enough inspirations, I'm talking about Soloing them without inspirations, which is what was possible with controllers and scrappers.
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Hmm, I love my candy, but there's a big difference between eb and av - I can solo ebs with candy on my blaster, but not AVs, regen/recov is too high.
he actually did that a long awhile ago... no temps, and few inspirations if i remember correctly. ill give Ultimus this much, he has a powerful character, but as others have stated. a well played bot/traps/anything is pretty powerful in itself. it just wasnt discovered for some time, so many didnt know its true power until well.. now?