Signature powers... for players -- I had this idea

SIG-NA-TURE-PO-WERS

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The hell? Ninth Page? Guys, we can't let this topic die. Ever.

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We can wish for these, but there is not much more to say. Some like it, some are afraid it will be Munchkin-fun stuff. I think it has a possibility to be lots of fun, but I think that IOs are going to simulate a lot of what I would want out of Sig powers. Added damage types and such.

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Ummm, Btw how did the Topic change?

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Someone changed it.

This system would be easier to make than Inventions, most likely. The difference is that NO ONE ASKED FOR GOD DAMNED INVENTIONS.

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I saw Jesus on a photograph of Jesus.

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The Lord's name in vain eh?

Here's something that'll give you a kick.

Power Corrupts.

Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.

Through that logic, GOD, (I'll say it again. GOD. GODGODGOD. G.O.D. GOD.) is the most corrupt being in existance. Chew on that!

Erm...

That was a tad off topic. One question I have is will inventions have any influence on SIG attacks if they ever come out?

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God isn't his actual name. Just a title. And he can't be corrupt because it's impossible, unlike humans, which it usually is the case.

But what does that have to do with numbers? lol

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And? Its not here and if it was I might ask them not to have it depending on the context. You cursed using the name of one whom I happen to revere. That is very disrespectful. There is nothing wrong with saying God or Jesus, just using their names in a curse.

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And? Its not here and if it was I might ask them not to have it depending on the context. You cursed using the name of one whom I happen to revere. That is very disrespectful. There is nothing wrong with saying God or Jesus, just using their names in a curse.

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Sorry, just trying to get someone not to curse with it. My fault, I really was not trying to start a religious debate. Next time I will use a PM.

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And? Its not here and if it was I might ask them not to have it depending on the context. You cursed using the name of one whom I happen to revere. That is very disrespectful. There is nothing wrong with saying God or Jesus, just using their names in a curse.

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sry

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Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.

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For any one who's studied philosophy seriously, and not just memorized a bunch of interesting saying, then you'd have found out that this statement was re-examined and "fixed" long ago

It now goes:

The ILLUSION of absolute power corrupts absolutely.

It's only when there's some measure of power out there that you don't have and try to control it at all costs, most likely because you think it's a threat to you, that your illusion of beliving your power is absolut that you become corrupt in trying to claim it

This is the difference between God and Satan. This point works whether you believe in them as real, or just as concepts. God has power over all creation, there is no power he doesn't have, there is nothing that can entice or corrupt him. Satan, believes himself better then God, and in trying to set himself up as all powerful, has become absolutly corrupted.

Now again, you need not believe in either. And even if you are an atheist, there's no need to refute the point as a threat to your world view. It's understanding an idea of having absolut power, and the idea of not having abolute power and becoming obssed with achiving it. If you don't believe in God, Satan, or any cosmic beings of any sort, it still doesn't change the definition of these beings (real or not) or the ideas and concepts of them.

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Here boy! Come here boy! Good topic, aren't you a good topic then? Yes you are...

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And the list is good...But my problem with it is that we don't really know how the points could be spent in the range/radius area. I doubt that if the idea is implemented, it would actually work that way. I'd think that they would either give us a choice for PBAoE or cone or single target, and give us a cost for those accordingly.


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I did actually have it set up that way when I was creating the post, but then you still have to specify the range or size in some fashion, so I figured if we've got to have a range/size selction, just reuse that for selecting whether the power is melee, single-target, both or neither. Makes the interface much simpler, which must be a good thing, right?

Let's run another of my characters' signature powers through the mill and see how it comes out:

Harlequinne's Chaos

[u]1) Range[u]
Let's make it a point blank power, and spend no points here.

[u]2) Area of Effect[u]
It'd be nice if this was large, so 8 points go here, and 10 points left.

[u]3) Strength of Effects[u]
I want a high-mag confuse and medium damage, which is 3 and 4 (using the double-cost-for-damage suggestion) points, 7 in total and leaving 3 points left.

[u]4) Duration of effects[u]
Not many points left, so we'd better use them all up here, for 3 seconds of confusion, which isn't really very long.

[u]5) Recharge[u]
No points left, so default 20-minute recharge.

[u]6) Accuracy[u]
Ditto, so default accuracy too.

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16-yard diameter, PBAoE with mag-3 confuse for 3 seconds and medium damage, every 20-minutes.

That's...pretty wimpy really. If I drop the damage, that gives me 7 seconds of confusion, which is somewhat more useful, but still quite weak - a showy signature move, but far from unbalancing. I'd rather err on the side of underpowered for these, since they're an extra for customising your hero or villain, and not a way to be ub3r.

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I used to have superhuman powers, but my therapist took them away...

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I'll chime in here.

For my Arbiter-built machine of smashing destruction -

Name: Hellstorm Pulsar

Range: I don't want it to be melee, but he is a brute, so...the range of impale, roughly. So 2 points? (gomen nasai, dont wanna go look up the oooold original post.)

Area of Effect: Single-Target.

Strength of Effects: High knockback, medium damage. 3 and four, again. Effect is done as DoT, from multiple blasts. Each blast has 100% knockback.

Duration of Effects: none. It's just got Knockback and Damage.

Recharge: All remaining points go into recharge.

Accuracy: Accuracy is the base accuracy.

Visuals: He moves into the Energy Bolt animation and rapid-fires six bolts of red, thick energy (like the arachnos maces and drones shoot) at his target. The target is juggled by the knockback of each burst, making it an effective and cool "GO AWAY" power.

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second page..

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er...... what happened to the original topic? And why oh why is this not 1000 pages yet?

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Signature powers = good.

rar

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I've just thought to check City of Data for the radiuses on current AoE attacks in game - standard AoEs seem to be 15 feet, and nukes 25 feet, both of which are infeasible with my current values. Also, sniper attacks have 150-yard range, which is equally difficult. To rectify this, I propose the following adjustments:

[u]1) Range of Power[u]
1 point / 15-yard range

This means a sniper range attack costs 10-points, and a standard "long" range attack is 5 or 6 points, which is much more in line with the ranges of current in game attacks.


[u]2) Area of Effect[u]
1 point / 3-yard radius

This gives a nuke-sized AoE for 8-points, and a "normal" AoE size for 5 points - again, much more in line with current in-game values.


With that in mind....

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I'll chime in here.

For my Arbiter-built machine of smashing destruction -

Name: Hellstorm Pulsar

Range: I don't want it to be melee, but he is a brute, so...the range of impale, roughly. So 2 points? (gomen nasai, dont wanna go look up the oooold original post.)

Area of Effect: Single-Target.

Strength of Effects: High knockback, medium damage. 3 and four, again. Effect is done as DoT, from multiple blasts. Each blast has 100% knockback.

Duration of Effects: none. It's just got Knockback and Damage.

Recharge: All remaining points go into recharge.

Accuracy: Accuracy is the base accuracy.

Visuals: He moves into the Energy Bolt animation and rapid-fires six bolts of red, thick energy (like the arachnos maces and drones shoot) at his target. The target is juggled by the knockback of each burst, making it an effective and cool "GO AWAY" power.

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Impale is a 40-yard range, I think? So that'd be 3 points (1 per 15-yards = 45) for the range.
7 points on the effects.
Leaving 8 points for the recharge, giving it a 12 minute recharge time.

How does that sound?

[[Oh, and Serps, while the bumpage is appreciated, any chance you could add to the discussion while you do? Even if you really hate my system, improvements or better ideas would be nice...]]

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I used to have superhuman powers, but my therapist took them away...

[ cruise / casual-tempest.net / transference.org / xenogamous.com / wytedragon.net / quantam sufficit ]

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I still feel the powers starting out with such a massive recharge time feels like a PVP balance issue, which could be solved with simply locking them in PVP zones and Arenas.

But I'd take that yeah. Probably trade in a few more points on time to make it hit harder, if it isnt going to be loosed upon unsuspecting PVE mobs that much as it stands.

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this may have come up before i just didnt feel like reading all the other posts so here goes it i think the type of "tree" you get should reflect the AT you are and power sets you picked for example i have a ninja/poison mm my tree should have an arrow/poison type of attack with some debuff power myself and minions chould alraedy do, laters

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The idea is to create a totally unique power that is your "signature" move, and yours alone - if it is restricted to your powersets and/or archetype that greatly limits how unique you can make the power.

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I used to have superhuman powers, but my therapist took them away...

[ cruise / casual-tempest.net / transference.org / xenogamous.com / wytedragon.net / quantam sufficit ]