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Have you written, or thought about writing, a Game Play Guide? If so, now is the time to revisit it and spiff it up! Or, get writing and put your game play wisdom down in black and white!
One of the initiatives the Community Team will be tackling is to update the many guide posts on our forums. These guides are an excellent resource for our community and we want to keep them current and up to date.
So, make it your new year's resolution! Forget the gym and write or update your guide today!
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Huh?
Let me repeat... Huh?
Who is this "Community Team"? And how is it *you* are going to update *our* guides? Are you going to correct them, change them, update them yourselves?
Or... just hound us to do it?
NCSoft/Cryptic can't even put out a competent game manual. As much as we (mostly I) begged for you to put the text up on the web ahead of time so we can proofread and correct it. You didn't. What comes in the game box is incomplete and often wrong. Your game manuals are a 3 on a scale of 10.
Other information, like how demorecord works, how macros/binds are parsed, the hard numbers of powers... you won't release. At least not at once and comprehensively. We have to hound the devs in PMs for information you should have made available all along. It was the hard work of players who figured most of this out and published it.
Now that Statesman is no longer micromanaging things (and completely reversed his philosophy of keeping us in the dark with the numbers by taking a paycheck to put together Prima's I7 guide), the devs are more forthcoming with real numbers and info... but it's not enough.
Because NCSoft gives us so little resources on their own game websites, it is the players who've put together the best sources of information on the game. I go to vidiotmaps, badge-hound, nofuture, paragonwiki for information on the game. NCSoft's CoH and CoV website is a joke for information. Let's take an example: On the CoH website was an attempt to list all the emotes for us. Compare that to what Mantid did. Mantid gets a 9. NCSoft employee gets a 3.
If you really, really are serious about organizing guides and information, Lighthouse. Then NCSoft needs to have their own version of Paragonwiki that will serve as the online game manual. And you need to get the Cryptic people to look over the info and correct it and fill in the blanks so we know it's the real deal and not a player's best guess.
Otherwise, just organize the Guide to Guides for us and let it go.
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Sheesh man..youre gonna get an ulcer... 
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What would really help would be the ability to edit your guide, regardless of age, instead of just posting replies to it. If that could be made possible for that forum only it would be very cool.
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I'd love to be able to do this too.
Instead of relying on CoH to make a wiki one could just take advantage of the already existing Paragon Wiki and copy and paste (and edit) the current guides on these forums as new pages at Paragon Wiki.
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Have you written, or thought about writing, a Game Play Guide? If so, now is the time to revisit it and spiff it up! Or, get writing and put your game play wisdom down in black and white!
One of the initiatives the Community Team will be tackling is to update the many guide posts on our forums. These guides are an excellent resource for our community and we want to keep them current and up to date.
So, make it your new year's resolution! Forget the gym and write or update your guide today!
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Huh?
Let me repeat... Huh?
Who is this "Community Team"? And how is it *you* are going to update *our* guides? Are you going to correct them, change them, update them yourselves?
Or... just hound us to do it?
NCSoft/Cryptic can't even put out a competent game manual. As much as we (mostly I) begged for you to put the text up on the web ahead of time so we can proofread and correct it. You didn't. What comes in the game box is incomplete and often wrong. Your game manuals are a 3 on a scale of 10.
Other information, like how demorecord works, how macros/binds are parsed, the hard numbers of powers... you won't release. At least not at once and comprehensively. We have to hound the devs in PMs for information you should have made available all along. It was the hard work of players who figured most of this out and published it.
Now that Statesman is no longer micromanaging things (and completely reversed his philosophy of keeping us in the dark with the numbers by taking a paycheck to put together Prima's I7 guide), the devs are more forthcoming with real numbers and info... but it's not enough.
Because NCSoft gives us so little resources on their own game websites, it is the players who've put together the best sources of information on the game. I go to vidiotmaps, badge-hound, nofuture, paragonwiki for information on the game. NCSoft's CoH and CoV website is a joke for information. Let's take an example: On the CoH website was an attempt to list all the emotes for us. Compare that to what Mantid did. Mantid gets a 9. NCSoft employee gets a 3.
If you really, really are serious about organizing guides and information, Lighthouse. Then NCSoft needs to have their own version of Paragonwiki that will serve as the online game manual. And you need to get the Cryptic people to look over the info and correct it and fill in the blanks so we know it's the real deal and not a player's best guess.
Otherwise, just organize the Guide to Guides for us and let it go.
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Sheesh man..youre gonna get an ulcer...
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Agreed. I don't think Lighthouse deserves that much vitriol (especially as the new kid on the block) - much as he, and we, can sympathize with your long-standing concerns.
That said, being able to edit age-old posts is a nice moderation fix but it's a danger to put in place universally for every forum section. If there's a way to have just *this* section allow all guide posters open-ended editing permissions to update, then by all means.
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Have you written, or thought about writing, a Game Play Guide? If so, now is the time to revisit it and spiff it up! Or, get writing and put your game play wisdom down in black and white!
One of the initiatives the Community Team will be tackling is to update the many guide posts on our forums. These guides are an excellent resource for our community and we want to keep them current and up to date.
So, make it your new year's resolution! Forget the gym and write or update your guide today!
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Huh?
Let me repeat... Huh?
Who is this <rant truncated to mitigate loss of IQ>
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We are not re-writing player guides. We are updating the posts that link to them since they haven't been updated since, oh around Issue 6! Sorry for any confusion.
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Um, yeah, what he said. And what he said before that on this very same thread.
Please try actually reading the thread before replying.
And thanks again LH for again explaining your aim; the Guide for Guides really needs some love
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Other information, like how demorecord works, how macros/binds are parsed, the hard numbers of powers... you won't release. At least not at once and comprehensively.
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That's odd. I never had trouble with macros - I just used the in-game help.
Haven't looked up the demorecord stuff, because I found that stuff out here on the boards due to people being helpful when posting demos.
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I agree, some guides are amazing, but outdated. We need to be able to go in an rewrite some of the information to our own guides.
Another thing I would like, is if we are able to self-moderate our own guides... I posted a build guide and it got foamed out of existence by people who didn't think I had the correct power choiced to be a min/maxed tank... (see the signature for the thread). If the same thing happens in the Guide section, it could prove disasterous to those who are posting a guide on one thing, but get flamed for not posting a guide to another.
It would be like a person posting a Guide to the AV-killing machine, and getting flamed for it not working in PvP.
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I think that idea sucks, mainly because you could delete any post that showed how crap your guide is, if it were. If you can't take criticism, you shouldn't be writing a guide.
When it comes to player guides, I'd suggest that Cryptic / NCsoft remove them from the forums and place them in some sort of wiki / blog / whatever application that is attached to the main page. Give guide authors the ability to edit their own guides, attach guides to player login names, people can leave comments etc but I don't think that forums are well suited to the creation and maintenance of guides. IMO.
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What would really help would be the ability to edit your guide, regardless of age, instead of just posting replies to it. If that could be made possible for that forum only it would be very cool.
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Yeah, I wonder if the setting can be changed for that specific forum.
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I agree, some guides are amazing, but outdated. We need to be able to go in an rewrite some of the information to our own guides.
Another thing I would like, is if we are able to self-moderate our own guides... I posted a build guide and it got foamed out of existence by people who didn't think I had the correct power choiced to be a min/maxed tank... (see the signature for the thread). If the same thing happens in the Guide section, it could prove disasterous to those who are posting a guide on one thing, but get flamed for not posting a guide to another.
It would be like a person posting a Guide to the AV-killing machine, and getting flamed for it not working in PvP.