Never read the whole 16 pages so ...meh if this has been brought up.
I was thinking about this post while I was doing the dishes. I have two Idea to fix placate that may work.
1) the crazy one: add to placate a 5 sec, mez 5 protection and a feature that surpresses all debuffs. Basical Placate tells the foe "I was never here" instead of "forget about me". It would act as normal (critical) but would free up the debuffs/mez so you cant be targeted. (additional idea would be to have it work on allies, just something that is enough to break a mez so they can do an action)
2) The over powered ?: Change placate into a form of confusion, but not confusion so that it can be BFed off (it is still placate, just a different effect) . The idea and result would be that the foe would think the stalker as an ally, would be able to target but no offensive actions. Kinda of a "<eye poke>...ah i cant see".
Being confused this may end the perception arms race. If the scrapper is running tactics to see the stalker and gets placated/confused, his buffs are now affecting the stalker as he winds up an AS. Turn of tactics, debuff the stalker.
I don't care where you wanna run. I cue up Focus IMMEDIATELY after my AS strikes, and it will follow you all over the map as long as I get it cued right after my initial strike, which always happens. Plus BU is still activated .
You really know how to kill some people, eh ghosrider?
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I don't care where you wanna run. I cue up Focus IMMEDIATELY after my AS strikes, and it will follow you all over the map as long as I get it cued right after my initial strike, which always happens. Plus BU is still activated .
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I initially thought you meant "Total Focus" but then I realized you meant the Claws Focus attack. Claws should really get a damage buff. 
Weak Fire Tankers.
XD.
You've got to be kidding me. My Fire/EM tank destroys stalkers. I get AS'd/ET'd and TF'd. I usually survive, pop healing flames hit Fiery Embrace/BU and by then the stalker thinks I'm some pathetic Fire/Ice tank.
At which point they get 3 shotted and destroyed.
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Weak Fire Tankers.
XD.
You've got to be kidding me. My Fire/EM tank destroys stalkers. I get AS'd/ET'd and TF'd. I usually survive, pop healing flames hit Fiery Embrace/BU and by then the stalker thinks I'm some pathetic Fire/Ice tank.
At which point they get 3 shotted and destroyed.
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Is that destroyer of stalkers on the test server? Id love to get destroyed on my EM/SR. 
LMAO @ Tanks
Amazingly, I actually read through every post.
So me being claws/sr is a good thing? lol
ps: I've killed Blasters by outright chasing them unhidden and keeping them on their [censored] with shockwave and focus.
But I only just reactivated my account.. sounds like I missed a lot.
Once again I find myself here, I just tested this again to confirm it in my own mind.
If I drop caltrops then placate a creature in or that steps on them they agro and attack. When they are placated and I am hidden.
This wasnt really though out very well. I was hit from behind by a partol that stumbled on my Caltrops after I finished a battle and hide was activated.
I placated them as well and was attacked anyway.
I tested this three times and the same result placate sucks in this instance. 
"if you ever get offered a burger from a clown and its not ronald mcdonald don�t eat it, I learnt that the hard way"
and to think of the poor ninja blade and claws stalkers who need placate to crit due to there low damage. and yea, i go the same thing going on as everyone else
Hooray! Issue 11.. How much do you want to bet that this bug -still- isn't fixed when I11 goes live? It's been, what.. 4 issues now?
Sad indeed, when the devs hate an AT enough to use shoddy logic to justify not fixing one of the core powers for over 10 months.
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and to think of the poor ninja blade and claws stalkers who need placate to crit due to there low damage. and yea, i go the same thing going on as everyone else
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Actually, it's more than EM doesn't need placate to crit because most of its damage is outside of critting. Its two most powerful attacks barely benefit from crits.
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If that fire tanks stands still for you to AS him then he shouldnt be playing the game. It took 2 stalkers and a corruptor to take down my fire tank and he's not even IO'd out.
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Even a notorious runner like "High Impact" on freedom can be killed. Anyone who plays on freedom knows what i mean this guy only fights if he has a full team ready to gank you and if the odds go bad he runs every fight, and only fights in numbers. Took me a week but i caught him alone and it felt good lol. Back on topic though being nrg/nin placate ain't so bad but i can see how any other build would suffer. Hopefully this next issue provides a fix, or atleast make it like it was?
The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
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FIX PLACATE DEVS!!!!
im glad im not the only one to see how bad it is atm, its absolutely useless for my ninjablade... right now its like Y even have placate... DEVS say its working as intended? do any of them use a stalker? If they dont fix it, it just proves what many of us already know that the devs hate villians... period
I am amused with how people with stalkers aren't happy with the builds of stalkers. I mean seriously if you feel they are lame and gimped the way they are then why not build something different. For fact I have seen many different stalkers in pvp that are nearly indestructible due to how they slot the powers and the sets they pick. If you can't build a stalker that is formidable then maybe stalkers aren't your cup of tea and it is time to try something else.
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I am amused with how people with stalkers aren't happy with the builds of stalkers. I mean seriously if you feel they are lame and gimped the way they are then why not build something different. For fact I have seen many different stalkers in pvp that are nearly indestructible due to how they slot the powers and the sets they pick. If you can't build a stalker that is formidable then maybe stalkers aren't your cup of tea and it is time to try something else.
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This is a good example of two things
1. A Hero
2. A guy who doesn't get it....
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I am amused with how people with stalkers aren't happy with the builds of stalkers. I mean seriously if you feel they are lame and gimped the way they are then why not build something different. For fact I have seen many different stalkers in pvp that are nearly indestructible due to how they slot the powers and the sets they pick. If you can't build a stalker that is formidable then maybe stalkers aren't your cup of tea and it is time to try something else.
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And if you can't fry a Stalker, then you need another Archetype.
*two shots yet another invisininja*
Doom.
Yep.
This is really doom.
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I am amused with how people with stalkers aren't happy with the builds of stalkers. I mean seriously if you feel they are lame and gimped the way they are then why not build something different. For fact I have seen many different stalkers in pvp that are nearly indestructible due to how they slot the powers and the sets they pick. If you can't build a stalker that is formidable then maybe stalkers aren't your cup of tea and it is time to try something else.
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This is a good example of two things
1. A Hero
2. A guy who doesn't get it....
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actually yes to the first remark and no to the second cause I do get it. I played a stalker for a while and did just fine with it no complaints had alot of fun with it. So why isn't everyone who has a stalker complaining? probably because they know how to build them.
And your First Response explains your Second Response....
Ofcourse you will say you "get it", anyone who doesn't want to show themselves of low intelligence of what they're talking about would.
A_C has tested over and over again the Placate bug, that right there should EXPLAIN to you that we're obivously not whining over nothing, like you Heroes do in PvP all the time....
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I am amused with how people with stalkers aren't happy with the builds of stalkers. I mean seriously if you feel they are lame and gimped the way they are then why not build something different. For fact I have seen many different stalkers in pvp that are nearly indestructible due to how they slot the powers and the sets they pick. If you can't build a stalker that is formidable then maybe stalkers aren't your cup of tea and it is time to try something else.
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This is a good example of two things
1. A Hero
2. A guy who doesn't get it....
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actually yes to the first remark and no to the second cause I do get it. I played a stalker for a while and did just fine with it no complaints had alot of fun with it. So why isn't everyone who has a stalker complaining? probably because they know how to build them.
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You're implying I don't know how to build my Stalkers?
I've logged more hours on Stalkers than you probably ever will...
Please, before insulting our intelligences, get a clue.
Doom.
Yep.
This is really doom.
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I am amused with how people with stalkers aren't happy with the builds of stalkers. I mean seriously if you feel they are lame and gimped the way they are then why not build something different. For fact I have seen many different stalkers in pvp that are nearly indestructible due to how they slot the powers and the sets they pick. If you can't build a stalker that is formidable then maybe stalkers aren't your cup of tea and it is time to try something else.
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This is a good example of two things
1. A Hero
2. A guy who doesn't get it....
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actually yes to the first remark and no to the second cause I do get it. I played a stalker for a while and did just fine with it no complaints had alot of fun with it. So why isn't everyone who has a stalker complaining? probably because they know how to build them.
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Wow. Just continue to show your ignorance bud. If you are implying that we don't know how to build a stalker, then you are just not smart. We post because we realize that the stalkers are BROKEN. We build them as well as possible, but we still see that they aren't up to what they should be. Why aren't the other people complaining?
A) They don't care enough to get involved.
B) They don't realize that their stalker can be so much better if its core powers actually worked!!!
I have tested placate over and over again. If you look at the first posts in this thread you will see that I PMed Castle and he said that they didn't plan on fixing it anytime soon because Stalkers were already "the number 1 killer in PvP". That is ridiculous and a terrible excuse as to why not to fix the CORE POWER in an AT.
We complain because we care. We try because we care. And me seeing you telling us to stop complaining is an insult.
Please don't continue to tell us not to complain. It would be like telling us that we don't care.
The reason we don't have Placate getting fixed currently is because it is a coding issue. This means that Castle himself has no control over it. It goes to the global issue guys and when it comes to global issues, ie: "global chat, or database corruptions, or Placate, Placate comes in second."
So eventually it will get fixed, it just comes down to not having other more "pressing" issues. I know that we all think that Placate IS a pressing issue, but they just don't view it that way.
PS: Quote is from PM by Castle
Realistically, they (the devs) just don't care about villains. Placate worked fine, until they decided to nerf it. Once nerfed, it became broken, but that was just fine with the Devs. Brute fury building has NEVER worked right in PvP, not in CoV beta, not since it went live, NEVER. Devs have no plans to fix that either. Devs stated patron powers would be more powerful than those of hero epics before they were implemented....bald faced lie!
Face it, unless the overwhelming majority of players suddenly starts playing villains, the devs aren't going to care about villain problems.
Currently 2/3 of the player base at any given time of day is on heroes. When you have twice the numbers of heroes as you do villains, it only makes sense to cater to the overwhelming majority, and let the rest suffer.
I have a little more evidence to A_C's Placate problem with NPC's....
I was running around on my EM/EA Stalker in St. Martial tryin to get rid of a little debt (Placate failed (u-_-) and I came across a nice group of Family. I wasted them all until the Boss, and waited for him to attack me then Placated. He then hit me right through Placate, and turned around, acting as if nothing happened. I decided to wait for re-hide, and right as I went back into Hide, he turned around and hit me again. Ofccourse I High-Fived him in the face, but then I sat there and wondered how he could've done this. I mean, they all have a 6-8 second time count of the ranged attacks between each other, so if he just hit, how could he hit again?
Anyone know?
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