Guide to Upcoming Epic Archetypes (I6)


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I expect we'll see some new, water-related costume pieces come out, but I doubt we'll be limited to it. I suspect any "enforced" looks will come from the powersets manifestations on your person. Some Coralax will look stupid as a result of this, but some will look totally cool

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It depends on the story, really. It would be so silly if you're a pure-blooded Coralax or even a Coralax-Hybrid and you're able to dress up like a Werewolf or a Robot. That wouldn't make sense at all. A limited and/or small set only for the Coralax is a solution, along with letting us use some of the appropriate costume pieces that are available to everyone else, stuff like Plant hair, Plant shoulders, Hoods, Trenchcoats maybe, are appropriate IMO. I can't think of anything else right now though.

Such restrictions will always intervene when you're trying to tell a story. If it gets too restricting and if the devs chooses it to be that way, we just have to remind ourselves: this isn't our story anymore, and that we're stepping into an Epic story that's written a certain way, so right off the bat, we're already given somewhat of a warning about the freedom and restrictions when playing an EAT.


 

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I expect we'll see some new, water-related costume pieces come out, but I doubt we'll be limited to it. I suspect any "enforced" looks will come from the powersets manifestations on your person. Some Coralax will look stupid as a result of this, but some will look totally cool

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It depends on the story, really. It would be so silly if you're a pure-blooded Coralax or even a Coralax-Hybrid and you're able to dress up like a Werewolf or a Robot. That wouldn't make sense at all. A limited and/or small set only for the Coralax is a solution, along with letting us use some of the appropriate costume pieces that are available to everyone else, stuff like Plant hair, Plant shoulders, Hoods, Trenchcoats maybe, are appropriate IMO. I can't think of anything else right now though.

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A robot "kheldian" or werewolf "peacebringer" is pretty stupid too. Yet they allow it. Why? Because you can already think of uses of individual costume pieces that others would see as "silly" and probably make them work. I'm always really surprised by how people can put a look together, even by using inappropriate stuff.

Moreover, it's not like Cryptic to put us on a track with CoH. It's alot more interesting to play a hero "Powered with the Legacy of Atlantis", with the specifics left to us, than it is to play an Altantean when all Atlanteans look like THIS and fight like THAT.

When I make my Peacebringer, he won't look anything like the Ascendant PPD, and I doubt my deep-sea character will be a carbon copy of the Coralax hybrids we see in the game. I'm sure they'll offer some partial justification for this, but given that they've NEVER limited costume pieces before (except due to realities, such as the infeasibility, both technically and economically, of giving ALL heroes access to villain costume pieces, with or without the expansion), I doubt they'd limit it here.


 

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A robot "kheldian" or werewolf "peacebringer" is pretty stupid too.

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Well, in comparison to Coralax, Kheldians can possess bodies or stay in hosts because they're energy beings, not really having a natural form. Are they stupid? I don't mind for them, but they certainly do make sense as far as Kheldians go. So unless the Coralax can possess hosts just like the Kheldians (which would be frowned upon if they recycle that feature), I wouldn't really expect to be able to use all costumes in the costume generator unless the devs have an explanation behind it.

The Kheldians' reason to be able to dress as freely as they like differs widely compared to the reason as to why the Coralax has to look a certain way. I'm not really defending it, it's just the way it is.

As far as costume sets being limited not being done before, it's mainly because there hasn't been a situation where the devs had to limit the clothing. I'm not pushing for limited costume sets, but it just wouldn't make sense is all I'm saying. As far as we know, the Coralax are one race, and the Coralax-Hybrids are humans infected with magical coral. Maybe if we're able to revert back to human form, we can access most of the universal costumes, but if not, like I said, it really wouldn't make sense.


 

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Guide Update 09/11/06

Kheldian Archetype: read nofuture's story arc, The Kheldian War
new powersets coming- Nictus

Incarnates: After drinking from the Fountain of Zeus in the Well of Furies in the late 30s, Marcus Cole and Stefan Richter were granted amazing abilities. Cole, a former theif, returned home and became the Statesman to avenge his brother's death to Nemesis. Meanwhile, Richter joined with the fledgling fascist group Arachnos and eventually became Lord Recluse.

This archetype currently does not exist ingame, however, is planned to make an entrance within the next year. No other information is known.


Coralax: Slag Golems , Coralax-Hybrids
Also, read Coral Bonanza , the Cult of the Shaper , the Trail of the Leviathan ,and and Part 4 of this arc

Beyond this, very little is known, but much is speculated.

Speculation: Coral bodyparts that provide specific powers, Full-coral bodies that result in abilities, any combination thereof.

Blood of the Black Stream: An Egyptian shape-shifting cult that attempts to create a super computer using arcane means. For an example, go see the Oil Spill which looks like the Eye of Horus. For any more information, read The Book and the Burning .


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Well, in comparison to Coralax, Kheldians can possess bodies or stay in hosts because they're energy beings, not really having a natural form. Are they stupid? I don't mind for them, but they certainly do make sense as far as Kheldians go. So unless the Coralax can possess hosts just like the Kheldians (which would be frowned upon if they recycle that feature), I wouldn't really expect to be able to use all costumes in the costume generator unless the devs have an explanation behind it.

The Kheldians' reason to be able to dress as freely as they like differs widely compared to the reason as to why the Coralax has to look a certain way. I'm not really defending it, it's just the way it is.

As far as costume sets being limited not being done before, it's mainly because there hasn't been a situation where the devs had to limit the clothing. I'm not pushing for limited costume sets, but it just wouldn't make sense is all I'm saying. As far as we know, the Coralax are one race, and the Coralax-Hybrids are humans infected with magical coral. Maybe if we're able to revert back to human form, we can access most of the universal costumes, but if not, like I said, it really wouldn't make sense.

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Given that mobile pieces of rock exhibit the powers of Merulina's coral (as I understand it), it's not entirely improbable to have a coral-powered android or a were-creature infused with the power of the sea.

Maybe they're a "race," and if they were a very specific race, I could see it. Just as if they were to, hypothetically, include the "elf" Archtype, you wouldn't see any robot-looking elves.

But I don't think they're a race, or we wouldn't be seeing hybrids running all over the place. It's about infusion of coral power, which leaves the door open.

And the Devs haven't had call to limit costumes because they DIDN'T take that call up, not because they had no reason too. I can make a robot with the magic origin. I can have a midget, natural school-girl with Super Strength and Invulnerability. There's lots of illegitmate costume choices out there, but Cryptic doesn't employ any fashion police.

I'm also trying to figure out HOW they would do it. Basing it on your account I can see, but limiting your costume choices when you choose a specific AT? How would they implement that? Seems more work than it's worth to me.

That's my take anyway. This is all irrelevant speculation in a thread that's supposed to be about learning more about the EATs. Sorry about the derail.


 

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A robot "kheldian" or werewolf "peacebringer" is pretty stupid too.

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Well, in comparison to Coralax, Kheldians can possess bodies or stay in hosts because they're energy beings, not really having a natural form. Are they stupid? I don't mind for them, but they certainly do make sense as far as Kheldians go. So unless the Coralax can possess hosts just like the Kheldians (which would be frowned upon if they recycle that feature), I wouldn't really expect to be able to use all costumes in the costume generator unless the devs have an explanation behind it.

The Kheldians' reason to be able to dress as freely as they like differs widely compared to the reason as to why the Coralax has to look a certain way. I'm not really defending it, it's just the way it is.

As far as costume sets being limited not being done before, it's mainly because there hasn't been a situation where the devs had to limit the clothing. I'm not pushing for limited costume sets, but it just wouldn't make sense is all I'm saying. As far as we know, the Coralax are one race, and the Coralax-Hybrids are humans infected with magical coral. Maybe if we're able to revert back to human form, we can access most of the universal costumes, but if not, like I said, it really wouldn't make sense.

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Given that mobile pieces of rock exhibit the powers of Merulina's coral (as I understand it), it's not entirely improbable to have a coral-powered android or a were-creature infused with the power of the sea.

Maybe they're a "race," and if they were a very specific race, I could see it. Just as if they were to, hypothetically, include the "elf" Archtype, you wouldn't see any robot-looking elves.

But I don't think they're a race, or we wouldn't be seeing hybrids running all over the place. It's about infusion of coral power, which leaves the door open.

And the Devs haven't had call to limit costumes because they DIDN'T take that call up, not because they had no reason too. I can make a robot with the magic origin. I can have a midget, natural school-girl with Super Strength and Invulnerability. There's lots of illegitmate costume choices out there, but Cryptic doesn't employ any fashion police.

I'm also trying to figure out HOW they would do it. Basing it on your account I can see, but limiting your costume choices when you choose a specific AT? How would they implement that? Seems more work than it's worth to me.

That's my take anyway. This is all irrelevant speculation in a thread that's supposed to be about learning more about the EATs. Sorry about the derail.

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Lol, it's ok, speculating is always fun.

As far as the Coralax as a race, the Coralax do look very identical, ofcourse basing my speculation off of the Coralax-Hybrids, Barracuda (who were once humans) and Calystix, who's a pure blooded Coralax. Assuming these Coralax-Hybrids weren't all related siblings during their human life, I think it's fair to say that once a human gets infected with these magical coral, their features morph closer to looking like real Coralax, like Calystix. Come to think of it, the Coralax-Hybrids look wayyy much creative than Calystix.

Also, they can't not be a race, because they're specified as a race of coral beings. The Coralax-Hybrids are just involuntary soldiers or minions for the Coralax. It's like grabbing a random animal, injecting some super powers in him, and using him as your own to aid you in whatever you wish to accomplish.

As for limiting costume options, they've never done this because they've never had a reason to, as I explained earlier. The work is gonna be extensive, I agree, but the devs have also emphasized and let us know that Epic Archetypes are a big deal. They know that it's gonna take alot of work, and if you think about it, limited costume options seems like a small deal IMO. We're already limited to not having unlocked costume options, pre-sale items, and other box items. It wouldn't be so hard to lock specific costumes for specific ATs or characters.


 

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I really hope they come out with one of these EAT's by i9, i might explode if they delay any longer. although, of course, i have no problem with them taking time to get it right .

that "deep" water pool outside the Grandeville wall SURE is encouraging though. But who knows, even if they get the pool and such figured out the devs might not have coralax out until i12. thats just the way they work =p


 

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I really hope they come out with one of these EAT's by i9, i might explode if they delay any longer. although, of course, i have no problem with them taking time to get it right .

that "deep" water pool outside the Grandeville wall SURE is encouraging though. But who knows, even if they get the pool and such figured out the devs might not have coralax out until i12. thats just the way they work =p

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The Coralax could be cancelled for all I know, but one thing official we do know is that the Nictus EAT or the evil Kheldians EAT will be coming out "ASAP." Although, the devs were planning on releasing an EAT in the expansion box. The expansion box now became I10 and I11, and they said they changed some things around.

Now, an EAT isn't something you can just slip in and no one notice, like a powerset or something. It's a game-wide event and it WILL be noticed by many players, especially story-wise. Another thing to remember is that I8-I11 is one big story, so the EAT has to be involved with the I8-I11 story somehow, and I doubt the devs can remove something that big that quick. It's not that I'm pushing for the idea of a new EAT (AFTER the Nictus) sometime between I9 and I11, it's just that something as big as a 4 issue story just can't be re-written.

So, if the devs did include a new EAT in the expansion box, it was most likely tied in with the I8-I11 story, which means it will probably still be in I9, I10, or I11. That is, IF it was a relevant part of the story. If not, then I guess not.


Disclaimer: Speculation (just for fun.)

For which EAT it would be, the Incarnates are already ruled out because Positron said it didn't fit in with the storyline. Wings in I8, so maybe Avilans, but it's very very unlikely because they're not even in the game yet, but hey, you never know. Coralax is another possibility because they're the furthest in being implemented in the game as far as having a cameo at all. Blood of the Black Stream will be the second in the running since they have some history in the game already, just like the Coralax.

Anyway, the first clue just might be in I8, so everyone keep your eyes peeled. Supposedly there's a new villain group or enemy group (for us villains.) I8 is supposedly linked with this big story, so we should learn soon enough, that and/or an enemy group is supposed to be getting an upgrade, we don't know anymore though. Maybe that's the new enemy, or maybe they will be an addition, who knows.


 

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how will the nictus fit into the game though. nictus are council cronies so why would arachnos try to recruit council soldiers? i want to see BotBS now, because i'm excited about a tech EAT.


 

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i want to see BotBS now, because i'm excited about a tech EAT.

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Forgive me if I'm ignorant, but I was under the impression BotBS were magic themed.

And now for some super wild speculating!:

As far as the storyline, maybe they will use Reischman. Somehow the 5th manage to regroup under a new leader and, with Arachnos' help, they bust out Reischman, thus bringing back the 5th, as well as making a good case for bringing Villainous Nictus as an EAT and why they are working for Arachnos (at least partially). This is I8 or I9.

In I10, Recluse decides he wants to use the Rikti threat against Paragon, and finds a way to reopen the portal. He underestimates the Rikti however, and the Rikti homeworld is opened as a zone. This zone would be the "heroes and villains fighting togethor" zone previously mentioned. The T/SF in this zone reveals that Hero-1 (the one that went with the Omega team, I always forget which variation on his name that is) is alive, and he helps on the last mission against a high-ranking Rikti leader. Hero-1 returns to Earth and gives his sword (Excalibur) back to Ms. Liberty and goes into semi-retirement.

In I11, we find that Excalibur and Reischman were the last two pieces to be used in the Gadzul oil Supercomputer, and that with these events coming to pass it is finally created. This unleashes the Gadzuls, an Egyptian-themed villain group. These Gadzuls use the souls of Supers to create the BotBSs, and as such they attack both Paragon and the Rogue Isles. This creates a new TF for heroes and a new SF for villains that ultimately unlocks the BotBS (unlockable for both heroes and villains that finish the S/TF, as the BotBS are newly created and are freelancers, so some choose good and some evil).

See? Ridiculous, outrageous, and highly improbable! And it makes the fun new EAT!


 

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I really hope they come out with one of these EAT's by i9, i might explode if they delay any longer. although, of course, i have no problem with them taking time to get it right .

that "deep" water pool outside the Grandeville wall SURE is encouraging though. But who knows, even if they get the pool and such figured out the devs might not have coralax out until i12. thats just the way they work =p

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The Coralax could be cancelled for all I know, but one thing official we do know is that the Nictus EAT or the evil Kheldians EAT will be coming out "ASAP." Although, the devs were planning on releasing an EAT in the expansion box. The expansion box now became I10 and I11, and they said they changed some things around.

Now, an EAT isn't something you can just slip in and no one notice, like a powerset or something. It's a game-wide event and it WILL be noticed by many players, especially story-wise. Another thing to remember is that I8-I11 is one big story, so the EAT has to be involved with the I8-I11 story somehow, and I doubt the devs can remove something that big that quick. It's not that I'm pushing for the idea of a new EAT (AFTER the Nictus) sometime between I9 and I11, it's just that something as big as a 4 issue story just can't be re-written.

So, if the devs did include a new EAT in the expansion box, it was most likely tied in with the I8-I11 story, which means it will probably still be in I9, I10, or I11. That is, IF it was a relevant part of the story. If not, then I guess not.


Disclaimer: Speculation (just for fun.)

For which EAT it would be, the Incarnates are already ruled out because Positron said it didn't fit in with the storyline. Wings in I8, so maybe Avilans, but it's very very unlikely because they're not even in the game yet, but hey, you never know. Coralax is another possibility because they're the furthest in being implemented in the game as far as having a cameo at all. Blood of the Black Stream will be the second in the running since they have some history in the game already, just like the Coralax.

Anyway, the first clue just might be in I8, so everyone keep your eyes peeled. Supposedly there's a new villain group or enemy group (for us villains.) I8 is supposedly linked with this big story, so we should learn soon enough, that and/or an enemy group is supposed to be getting an upgrade, we don't know anymore though. Maybe that's the new enemy, or maybe they will be an addition, who knows.

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I really really want the Coralax to be the next EAT, but I seem to remember Positron saying that the Incarnates were next (the "first new EAT" they wanted to do), but that it didn't fit in the current storyline.

If I'm reading that correctly, that means Incarnates aroudnd, what, I11, I12? And any further EATs delayed beyond that.

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I hope I'm wrong.


 

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I really hope they come out with one of these EAT's by i9, i might explode if they delay any longer. although, of course, i have no problem with them taking time to get it right .

that "deep" water pool outside the Grandeville wall SURE is encouraging though. But who knows, even if they get the pool and such figured out the devs might not have coralax out until i12. thats just the way they work =p

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The Coralax could be cancelled for all I know, but one thing official we do know is that the Nictus EAT or the evil Kheldians EAT will be coming out "ASAP." Although, the devs were planning on releasing an EAT in the expansion box. The expansion box now became I10 and I11, and they said they changed some things around.

Now, an EAT isn't something you can just slip in and no one notice, like a powerset or something. It's a game-wide event and it WILL be noticed by many players, especially story-wise. Another thing to remember is that I8-I11 is one big story, so the EAT has to be involved with the I8-I11 story somehow, and I doubt the devs can remove something that big that quick. It's not that I'm pushing for the idea of a new EAT (AFTER the Nictus) sometime between I9 and I11, it's just that something as big as a 4 issue story just can't be re-written.

So, if the devs did include a new EAT in the expansion box, it was most likely tied in with the I8-I11 story, which means it will probably still be in I9, I10, or I11. That is, IF it was a relevant part of the story. If not, then I guess not.


Disclaimer: Speculation (just for fun.)

For which EAT it would be, the Incarnates are already ruled out because Positron said it didn't fit in with the storyline. Wings in I8, so maybe Avilans, but it's very very unlikely because they're not even in the game yet, but hey, you never know. Coralax is another possibility because they're the furthest in being implemented in the game as far as having a cameo at all. Blood of the Black Stream will be the second in the running since they have some history in the game already, just like the Coralax.

Anyway, the first clue just might be in I8, so everyone keep your eyes peeled. Supposedly there's a new villain group or enemy group (for us villains.) I8 is supposedly linked with this big story, so we should learn soon enough, that and/or an enemy group is supposed to be getting an upgrade, we don't know anymore though. Maybe that's the new enemy, or maybe they will be an addition, who knows.

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I really really want the Coralax to be the next EAT, but I seem to remember Positron saying that the Incarnates were next (the "first new EAT" they wanted to do), but that it didn't fit in the current storyline.

If I'm reading that correctly, that means Incarnates aroudnd, what, I11, I12? And any further EATs delayed beyond that.

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I hope I'm wrong.

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But before that, he did in fact say that the expansion box will have an Epic Archetype...which what I was talking about in my previous post. It was in the Boomtown interview, before the W00T interview where he said he wants to do the Incarnates after the Nictus EAT, but he couldn't cause it doesn't fit into the story. I made like 2 posts here and in the CoH section talking about how he somewhat contradicted himself.

Anyway, like I said earlier in regaurds to the possibility of getting that EAT that was going to be in the expansion box (now I10 and I11):

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Although, the devs were planning on releasing an EAT in the expansion box. The expansion box now became I10 and I11, and they said they changed some things around.

Now, an EAT isn't something you can just slip in and no one notice, like a powerset or something. It's a game-wide event and it WILL be noticed by many players, especially story-wise. Another thing to remember is that I8-I11 is one big story, so the EAT has to be involved with the I8-I11 story somehow, and I doubt the devs can remove something that big that quick. It's not that I'm pushing for the idea of a new EAT (AFTER the Nictus) sometime between I9 and I11, it's just that something as big as a 4 issue story just can't be re-written.

So, if the devs did include a new EAT in the expansion box, it was most likely tied in with the I8-I11 story, which means it will probably still be in I9, I10, or I11. That is, IF it was a relevant part of the story. If not, then I guess not.


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Again, I'm not assuming there will be an EAT after the Nictus for next year (that isn't the Incarnates), instead I'm just going by what Positron has mentioned and basically how things work in the game.


 

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how will the nictus fit into the game though. nictus are council cronies so why would arachnos try to recruit council soldiers?

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The one thing I like about Epic ATs is that they don't have to be involved with other stories. This story involves the Council, why should Arachnos be involved?

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i want to see BotBS now, because i'm excited about a tech EAT.

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What Illusory said..

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Forgive me if I'm ignorant, but I was under the impression BotBS were magic themed.

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They were in no way represented as a Tech AT. States said they had a Tech EAT planned or designed, but he doesn't know what happend to it. If the super computer fooled you, don't let it. This super computer, if I remember correctly, isn't an actual computer, but more like a gathering of events and occurances that's supposed to trigger something.


 

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In I10, Recluse decides he wants to use the Rikti threat against Paragon, and finds a way to reopen the portal. He underestimates the Rikti however, and the Rikti homeworld is opened as a zone. This zone would be the "heroes and villains fighting togethor" zone previously mentioned. The T/SF in this zone reveals that Hero-1 (the one that went with the Omega team, I always forget which variation on his name that is) is alive, and he helps on the last mission against a high-ranking Rikti leader. Hero-1 returns to Earth and gives his sword (Excalibur) back to Ms. Liberty and goes into semi-retirement.

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That would be interesting. People did vote for the Rikti Homeworld alot in the poll, so just maybe.


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In I11, we find that Excalibur and Reischman were the last two pieces to be used in the Gadzul oil Supercomputer, and that with these events coming to pass it is finally created. This unleashes the Gadzuls, an Egyptian-themed villain group. These Gadzuls use the souls of Supers to create the BotBSs, and as such they attack both Paragon and the Rogue Isles. This creates a new TF for heroes and a new SF for villains that ultimately unlocks the BotBS (unlockable for both heroes and villains that finish the S/TF, as the BotBS are newly created and are freelancers, so some choose good and some evil).

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It's far too early to say. I mean, this super computer is one big conspiracy. I tried to solve it (read a few pages back) but I ended with somewhat of a cliffhanger or dead end. That, and there's not that much clues to speculate upon the fact that they might achieve this supercomputer for the I8-I11 story.

I8 should start off the story, and we should be able to tell who's connected and what's happening by then. Maybe we can even predict more accurately if there will be an EAT involved.


 

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It's far too early to say. I mean, this super computer is one big conspiracy. I tried to solve it (read a few pages back) but I ended with somewhat of a cliffhanger or dead end. That, and there's not that much clues to speculate upon the fact that they might achieve this supercomputer for the I8-I11 story.

I8 should start off the story, and we should be able to tell who's connected and what's happening by then. Maybe we can even predict more accurately if there will be an EAT involved.

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Ya Ocean, I was just wildly speculating . But about the EAT, I get the feeling there will be 2 involved, the first being the Nictus for Villains because they were getting in here 'ASAP' which to me means I8-9, and that part of my storyline idea seemed the most probable way to bring back the 5th, introduce Nictus to Villains but still have them semi-affiliated with Arachnos, and do something with Reisch, all things they've stated as wanting/have planned to do.


 

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how will the nictus fit into the game though. nictus are council cronies so why would arachnos try to recruit council soldiers? i want to see BotBS now, because i'm excited about a tech EAT.

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...No, Nictus are NOT Council cronies. Although the Council does use them, they are a completely independant race of beings from another planet, that exist in who-knows-how-many places around the galaxy, have their own culture and such, and not every single one of them works for the Council. I'd say the Nictus work more "with" the Council than "for". But, those Nictus involved with the Council ARE a minority of the Nictus population.

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Another thing to remember is that I8-I11 is one big story, so the EAT has to be involved with the I8-I11 story somehow, and I doubt the devs can remove something that big that quick.

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Oh really? New storyline starting in i8? Nice, ws thinking that i8 was gonna be a "meh nothing to see here" patch from a look at it, but hey, if they're starting a new issues-long storyline, at least it won't ALL be like "...another patch with not much new in it. >_>"


 

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they're council cronies. the only reason that they can survive on earth in mass numbers is because the council incubates them in their prisoners (after much physical and mental abbuse ofcourse). the council also extensively uses the nictus (specificly pieces of them) to make it's galixy soldiers, war wolves and void hunters. council higher ups have absorbed the nictus (arakhn and reequem) and use thier new found power to assert council rule. hence council cronies.

hero1 gave excalibur to Ms liberty for safe keeping, if he came back from rikti-earth she would give it back to him. i do like the recluse tie in to why rikti-earth is now open again.

BotBS needs to be tech, it's the only way it would make sense to me. i'm sorry if supercomputers and oil scream machines to me. a shape shifter EAT? hmmm... sounds like the transformers!


 

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they're council cronies. the only reason that they can survive on earth in mass numbers is because the council incubates them in their prisoners (after much physical and mental abbuse ofcourse). the council also extensively uses the nictus (specificly pieces of them) to make it's galixy soldiers, war wolves and void hunters. council higher ups have absorbed the nictus (arakhn and reequem) and use thier new found power to assert council rule. hence council cronies.


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I wouldn't say chronies, necessarily, but they certainly have ties. It would depend on how vital to their plans the Nicti consider Earth, how trustworthy/useful they find the Council, and how long the Council or a variation thereof has existed as a secret society. Given that the Nictus presence on Earth dates back to the age of Pharaohs in Egypt, it's possible that the Council's existed for far longer than people give credit.

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hero1 gave excalibur to Ms liberty for safe keeping, if he came back from rikti-earth she would give it back to him. i do like the recluse tie in to why rikti-earth is now open again.


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It's also possible Hero-1 could be the villain, mutated against his will. Alternately, he may have a Rikti version of Excalibur.

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BotBS needs to be tech, it's the only way it would make sense to me. i'm sorry if supercomputers and oil scream machines to me. a shape shifter EAT? hmmm... sounds like the transformers!

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Sounds like the Khelds, honestly.


 

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Oh really? New storyline starting in i8? Nice, ws thinking that i8 was gonna be a "meh nothing to see here" patch from a look at it, but hey, if they're starting a new issues-long storyline, at least it won't ALL be like "...another patch with not much new in it. >_>"



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I thought that the new story was supposed to start with Issue 9
But then, we're seeing the Faultline revamp THIS issue, aren't we? That might be the begining of our nifty metaplot...


 

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they're council cronies. the only reason that they can survive on earth in mass numbers is because the council incubates them in their prisoners (after much physical and mental abbuse ofcourse). the council also extensively uses the nictus (specificly pieces of them) to make it's galixy soldiers, war wolves and void hunters. council higher ups have absorbed the nictus (arakhn and reequem) and use thier new found power to assert council rule. hence council cronies.

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I could argue it's the other way around - the Council, or at least factions of it, are Nictus cronies.

The War Wolves are failed or problematic implants.
The Galaxies get more powerful... and have a 40% (roughly) successful "full conversion" rate - presumably to Nictus.
The Void Hunters... well, we're not told quite as much about, but given they're implanted humans...

Also (and yes, a spoiler if you haven't run the Kheld arcs, so be warned...) the Nictus are using Requiem, quite frankly, to take over the Earth - not for the Council or the Center, but for themselves. (And in one of the Portal Corp missions - I believe from Unai - you get to visit a world where they succeeded, and read what Requiem has to say about it.)

The Nictus are not Council cronies. They've ... "got an understanding" with them.


 

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For which EAT it would be, the Incarnates are already ruled out because Positron said it didn't fit in with the storyline. Wings in I8, so maybe Avilans, but it's very very unlikely because they're not even in the game yet, but hey, you never know. Coralax is another possibility because they're the furthest in being implemented in the game as far as having a cameo at all. Blood of the Black Stream will be the second in the running since they have some history in the game already, just like the Coralax.

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I think you're right... but I want my Avilians! I can wait if they're second or third.... *starts pacing...* a little... *paces more.*

*wonders if Avilians can pick up Coralax and drop them on the rocks to get to the meat inside.*


 

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BotBS needs to be tech, it's the only way it would make sense to me. i'm sorry if supercomputers and oil scream machines to me. a shape shifter EAT? hmmm... sounds like the transformers!

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But the supercomputer isn't literal, and the oil, well, Gadzul Oil is up to something obviously supernatural, and that oil that spilled from the Cairo queen is definitely not normal oil. It's magical. Another thing to note is the fact that it's magical is the reason why it's permanently in the water. It also forms the Eye of Horus if looked at from a bird's eye view.

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From all the interviews I read, it all starts in I8. Assuming the 50+ content is in I8, then I'd say the story starts in I8. I might be forgetting something, but IIRC, I9 was supposed to feature the rebuilding of Faultline (according to the Boomtown interview.)

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I think you're right... but I want my Avilians! I can wait if they're second or third.... *starts pacing...* a little... *paces more.*


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Well, to give you some hope, wings are coming. The way you unlock them might be tied to Avilan lore, you never know.

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*wonders if Avilians can pick up Coralax and drop them on the rocks to get to the meat inside.*

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Well, assuming you haven't fought Calystix yet, I do have to note that after getting.. basically.. killed, it hints that he eventually will reform. So good luck with that.

PS, I think you're thinking about bivalves and other muscles and clams, not coral.


 

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From all the interviews I read, it all starts in I8. Assuming the 50+ content is in I8, then I'd say the story starts in I8. I might be forgetting something, but IIRC, I9 was supposed to feature the rebuilding of Faultline (according to the Boomtown interview.)

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Posi was pretty specific on what portion of the 50+ content was going to make it into I8: Inventions. They've since stated it would be delayed.

Note also that there's no information about 50+ content listed on the Features Update (or Game Update, or wherever they give info on the next Issue). I'd say it's safe to assume that if it isn't listed there, it's not coming out.

I suspect we'll see 50+ content trickled in from I9-I11.


 

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From all the interviews I read, it all starts in I8. Assuming the 50+ content is in I8, then I'd say the story starts in I8. I might be forgetting something, but IIRC, I9 was supposed to feature the rebuilding of Faultline (according to the Boomtown interview.)

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Posi was pretty specific on what portion of the 50+ content was going to make it into I8: Inventions. They've since stated it would be delayed.

Note also that there's no information about 50+ content listed on the Features Update (or Game Update, or wherever they give info on the next Issue). I'd say it's safe to assume that if it isn't listed there, it's not coming out.

I suspect we'll see 50+ content trickled in from I9-I11.

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I asked the same thing in the CoH section, and most people have suggested that the list will be updated (not referring to the Features Updates) upon reaching I8, and the current Game Updates page is still lacking various updates. One example that someone pointed out are the wings. So I think it's safer to assume that not everything in I8 is in the Game Updates page yet.

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Posi was pretty specific on what portion of the 50+ content was going to make it into I8: Inventions. They've since stated it would be delayed.


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Hm, that doesn't seem right. Care to provide your sources? Sometimes the smallest details can be misinterpreted or personally interpreted even subconsciouly. I just don't remember reading only the inventions system is gonna make it in I8. As far as I know, they specifically said content for 50+

If that's the case though, I8 will be pretty empty eh?


 

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I'm looking forward to the Avilans! Maybe that means that somewhere along the lines they might add ATs for the other travel powers. Teleporting and super speed could be some awesome combat. Just a thought.