Power Data Standardization/Brawl Index Replacement

iakona_NA · 02-09-2006 09:42 AM

I don't know about anyone else, but I find myself disliking the current method of standardized damage calculations. There's just something about a Moderate damage attack doing a BI of 2.7778 that just doesn't appeal to me, so I've done a bit of research, analysis, and frying my brain staring at spreadsheets to try to come up with a simpler method of knowing how much damage a power will do (which, coincidentally, is the same method that the game engine uses to calculate the actual damage values). My goal here is to create a standardized data system that can be applied to all aspects of the game, hopefully shining some light on the numbers that are vague or just plain wrong in the multitude of guides, planners, etc. out there. Ideally, I'd like for the devs to give us all this information so we don't have to go searching for it and making guides like this; but until that time, this is the next best option. This is going to be a long post, so I'll try to keep it as organized and coherent as possible. Grab a drink, settle in, and get comfortable; here comes a flood of numbers:

PART 1: DAMAGE
Every power in the game is classified positionally as either Ranged or Melee for calculation purposes. Ranged powers include ally buffs, attack powers, and more; melee powers include self-buff powers (toggles and click-buffs), attack powers, and more. Each attack power has a scalar damage value attached to it, which determines the strength of the power. This value is (almost always) the same across all ATs who share the power. This value is multiplied by a table of position-, level- and AT-dependent damage modifiers to get the real in-game damage output against an even level foe with no resistance or vulnerability.

For instance, the brawl scalar value is 0.36, so to find the actual damage brawl will do at a given level for a given AT, multiply 0.36 by the corresponding value in the table below. For a level 25 blaster, that would be 0.36 * -34.33 = -12.36

You may be wondering why the modifier value is a negative number. This is because the final output value tells the game how many hit points to add or subtract for the target of the power. A negative value does damage to the target, while a positive value heals the target. (The heal modifier table will be listed later in this guide.)

Code:[/color]<hr /><pre>Melee damage modifier table (applies to melee powers only):
level blaster control defende scrappe tanker peacebr warshad brute stalker masterm dominat corrupt
1 -10.00 -9.10 -9.10 -10.25 -9.60 -9.50 -9.50 -9.50 -9.80 -9.10 -9.40 -9.50
2 -10.73 -9.72 -9.72 -11.02 -10.28 -10.17 -10.17 -10.17 -10.51 -9.72 -10.06 -10.17
3 -11.50 -10.31 -10.31 -11.83 -10.97 -10.84 -10.84 -10.84 -11.23 -10.31 -10.71 -10.84
4 -12.29 -10.91 -10.91 -12.68 -11.68 -11.52 -11.52 -11.52 -11.98 -10.91 -11.37 -11.52
5 -13.11 -11.52 -11.52 -13.56 -12.41 -12.23 -12.23 -12.23 -12.76 -11.52 -12.05 -12.23
6 -13.96 -12.08 -12.08 -14.49 -13.13 -12.92 -12.92 -12.92 -13.54 -12.08 -12.71 -12.92
7 -14.84 -12.50 -12.50 -15.49 -13.80 -13.54 -13.54 -13.54 -14.32 -12.50 -13.28 -13.54
8 -15.75 -12.91 -12.91 -16.53 -14.49 -14.17 -14.17 -14.17 -15.12 -12.91 -13.86 -14.17
9 -16.68 -13.30 -13.30 -17.61 -15.18 -14.80 -14.80 -14.80 -15.93 -13.30 -14.42 -14.80
10 -17.63 -13.66 -13.66 -18.73 -15.87 -15.43 -15.43 -15.43 -16.75 -13.66 -14.99 -15.43

11 -18.61 -14.01 -14.01 -19.89 -16.57 -16.05 -16.05 -16.05 -17.59 -14.01 -15.54 -16.05
12 -19.62 -14.32 -14.32 -21.09 -17.26 -16.67 -16.67 -16.67 -18.44 -14.32 -16.09 -16.67
13 -20.64 -14.61 -14.61 -22.32 -17.96 -17.29 -17.29 -17.29 -19.30 -14.61 -16.62 -17.29
14 -21.69 -14.86 -14.86 -23.59 -18.66 -17.90 -17.90 -17.90 -20.17 -14.86 -17.14 -17.90
15 -22.76 -15.08 -15.08 -24.90 -19.35 -18.50 -18.50 -18.50 -21.06 -15.08 -17.64 -18.50
16 -23.85 -15.27 -15.27 -26.24 -20.04 -19.08 -19.08 -19.08 -21.95 -15.27 -18.13 -19.08
17 -24.96 -15.41 -15.41 -27.61 -20.72 -19.66 -19.66 -19.66 -22.84 -15.41 -18.60 -19.66
18 -26.09 -15.52 -15.52 -29.02 -21.39 -20.22 -20.22 -20.22 -23.74 -15.52 -19.04 -20.22
19 -27.23 -15.59 -15.59 -30.46 -22.06 -20.76 -20.76 -20.76 -24.64 -15.59 -19.47 -20.76
20 -28.39 -15.61 -15.61 -31.94 -22.71 -21.29 -21.29 -21.29 -25.55 -15.61 -19.87 -21.29

21 -29.56 -16.26 -16.26 -33.25 -23.65 -22.17 -22.17 -22.17 -26.60 -16.26 -20.69 -22.17
22 -30.74 -16.91 -16.91 -34.58 -24.59 -23.05 -23.05 -23.05 -27.67 -16.91 -21.52 -23.05
23 -31.93 -17.56 -17.56 -35.92 -25.54 -23.95 -23.95 -23.95 -28.74 -17.56 -22.35 -23.95
24 -33.13 -18.22 -18.22 -37.27 -26.50 -24.85 -24.85 -24.85 -29.82 -18.22 -23.19 -24.85
25 -34.33 -18.88 -18.88 -38.63 -27.47 -25.75 -25.75 -25.75 -30.90 -18.88 -24.03 -25.75
26 -35.54 -19.55 -19.55 -39.99 -28.43 -26.66 -26.66 -26.66 -31.99 -19.55 -24.88 -26.66
27 -36.75 -20.21 -20.21 -41.34 -29.40 -27.56 -27.56 -27.56 -33.08 -20.21 -25.73 -27.56
28 -37.96 -20.88 -20.88 -42.70 -30.37 -28.47 -28.47 -28.47 -34.16 -20.88 -26.57 -28.47
29 -39.16 -21.54 -21.54 -44.05 -31.33 -29.37 -29.37 -29.37 -35.24 -21.54 -27.41 -29.37
30 -40.35 -22.19 -22.19 -45.39 -32.28 -30.26 -30.26 -30.26 -36.32 -22.19 -28.25 -30.26

31 -41.53 -22.84 -22.84 -46.72 -33.22 -31.15 -31.15 -31.15 -37.38 -22.84 -29.07 -31.15
32 -42.70 -23.48 -23.48 -48.03 -34.16 -32.02 -32.02 -32.02 -38.43 -23.48 -29.89 -32.02
33 -43.84 -24.11 -24.11 -49.32 -35.07 -32.88 -32.88 -32.88 -39.46 -24.11 -30.69 -32.88
34 -44.96 -24.73 -24.73 -50.58 -35.97 -33.72 -33.72 -33.72 -40.46 -24.73 -31.47 -33.72
35 -46.05 -25.33 -25.33 -51.81 -36.84 -34.54 -34.54 -34.54 -41.45 -25.33 -32.24 -34.54
36 -47.11 -25.91 -25.91 -53.00 -37.69 -35.33 -35.33 -35.33 -42.40 -25.91 -32.98 -35.33
37 -48.13 -26.47 -26.47 -54.14 -38.50 -36.10 -36.10 -36.10 -43.32 -26.47 -33.69 -36.10
38 -49.10 -27.01 -27.01 -55.24 -39.28 -36.83 -36.83 -36.83 -44.19 -27.01 -34.37 -36.83
39 -50.03 -27.52 -27.52 -56.28 -40.02 -37.52 -37.52 -37.52 -45.03 -27.52 -35.02 -37.52
40 -50.90 -28.00 -28.00 -57.26 -40.72 -38.18 -38.18 -38.18 -45.81 -28.00 -35.63 -38.18

41 -51.72 -28.44 -28.44 -58.18 -41.37 -38.79 -38.79 -38.79 -46.54 -28.44 -36.20 -38.79
42 -52.46 -28.85 -28.85 -59.02 -41.97 -39.35 -39.35 -39.35 -47.22 -28.85 -36.72 -39.35
43 -53.14 -29.23 -29.23 -59.78 -42.51 -39.86 -39.86 -39.86 -47.83 -29.23 -37.20 -39.86
44 -53.74 -29.56 -29.56 -60.46 -42.99 -40.31 -40.31 -40.31 -48.37 -29.56 -37.62 -40.31
45 -54.26 -29.85 -29.85 -61.05 -43.41 -40.70 -40.70 -40.70 -48.84 -29.85 -37.99 -40.70
46 -54.70 -30.09 -30.09 -61.54 -43.76 -41.03 -41.03 -41.03 -49.23 -30.09 -38.29 -41.03
47 -55.05 -30.28 -30.28 -61.93 -44.04 -41.29 -41.29 -41.29 -49.54 -30.28 -38.53 -41.29
48 -55.30 -30.42 -30.42 -62.21 -44.24 -41.47 -41.47 -41.47 -49.77 -30.42 -38.71 -41.47
49 -55.46 -30.50 -30.50 -62.39 -44.36 -41.59 -41.59 -41.59 -49.91 -30.50 -38.82 -41.59
50 -55.61 -30.59 -30.59 -62.56 -44.49 -41.71 -41.71 -41.71 -50.05 -30.59 -38.93 -41.71</pre><hr />

The Ranged damage modifier table is slightly different for some of the archetypes:
Code:[/color]<hr /><pre>Ranged damage modifier table (applies to ranged powers only)
level blaster control defende scrappe tanker peacebr warshad brute stalker masterm dominat corrupt
1 -10.00 -9.10 -9.30 -9.00 -9.00 -9.25 -9.25 -9.00 -9.20 -9.10 -9.30 -9.50
2 -10.73 -9.72 -9.95 -9.61 -9.61 -9.89 -9.89 -9.61 -9.83 -9.72 -9.95 -10.17
3 -11.50 -10.31 -10.57 -10.18 -10.18 -10.51 -10.51 -10.18 -10.44 -10.31 -10.57 -10.84
4 -12.29 -10.91 -11.22 -10.76 -10.76 -11.14 -11.14 -10.76 -11.06 -10.91 -11.22 -11.52
5 -13.11 -11.52 -11.87 -11.34 -11.34 -11.79 -11.79 -11.34 -11.70 -11.52 -11.87 -12.23
6 -13.96 -12.08 -12.50 -11.87 -11.87 -12.39 -12.39 -11.87 -12.29 -12.08 -12.50 -12.92
7 -14.84 -12.50 -13.02 -12.24 -12.24 -12.89 -12.89 -12.24 -12.76 -12.50 -13.02 -13.54
8 -15.75 -12.91 -13.54 -12.60 -12.60 -13.38 -13.38 -12.60 -13.23 -12.91 -13.54 -14.17
9 -16.68 -13.30 -14.05 -12.92 -12.92 -13.86 -13.86 -12.92 -13.67 -13.30 -14.05 -14.80
10 -17.63 -13.66 -14.55 -13.22 -13.22 -14.33 -14.33 -13.22 -14.11 -13.66 -14.55 -15.43

11 -18.61 -14.01 -15.03 -13.49 -13.49 -14.77 -14.77 -13.49 -14.52 -14.01 -15.03 -16.05
12 -19.62 -14.32 -15.50 -13.73 -13.73 -15.20 -15.20 -13.73 -14.91 -14.32 -15.50 -16.67
13 -20.64 -14.61 -15.95 -13.93 -13.93 -15.61 -15.61 -13.93 -15.28 -14.61 -15.95 -17.29
14 -21.69 -14.86 -16.38 -14.10 -14.10 -16.00 -16.00 -14.10 -15.62 -14.86 -16.38 -17.90
15 -22.76 -15.08 -16.79 -14.23 -14.23 -16.36 -16.36 -14.23 -15.93 -15.08 -16.79 -18.50
16 -23.85 -15.27 -17.17 -14.31 -14.31 -16.70 -16.70 -14.31 -16.22 -15.27 -17.17 -19.08
17 -24.96 -15.41 -17.54 -14.35 -14.35 -17.01 -17.01 -14.35 -16.47 -15.41 -17.54 -19.66
18 -26.09 -15.52 -17.87 -14.35 -14.35 -17.28 -17.28 -14.35 -16.70 -15.52 -17.87 -20.22
19 -27.23 -15.59 -18.18 -14.30 -14.30 -17.53 -17.53 -14.30 -16.88 -15.59 -18.18 -20.76
20 -28.39 -15.61 -18.45 -14.19 -14.19 -17.74 -17.74 -14.19 -17.03 -15.61 -18.45 -21.29

21 -29.56 -16.26 -19.21 -14.78 -14.78 -18.47 -18.47 -14.78 -17.73 -16.26 -19.21 -22.17
22 -30.74 -16.91 -19.98 -15.37 -15.37 -19.21 -19.21 -15.37 -18.44 -16.91 -19.98 -23.05
23 -31.93 -17.56 -20.75 -15.97 -15.97 -19.96 -19.96 -15.97 -19.16 -17.56 -20.75 -23.95
24 -33.13 -18.22 -21.53 -16.56 -16.56 -20.71 -20.71 -16.56 -19.88 -18.22 -21.53 -24.85
25 -34.33 -18.88 -22.32 -17.17 -17.17 -21.46 -21.46 -17.17 -20.60 -18.88 -22.32 -25.75
26 -35.54 -19.55 -23.10 -17.77 -17.77 -22.21 -22.21 -17.77 -21.33 -19.55 -23.10 -26.66
27 -36.75 -20.21 -23.89 -18.38 -18.38 -22.97 -22.97 -18.38 -22.05 -20.21 -23.89 -27.56
28 -37.96 -20.88 -24.67 -18.98 -18.98 -23.72 -23.72 -18.98 -22.77 -20.88 -24.67 -28.47
29 -39.16 -21.54 -25.45 -19.58 -19.58 -24.47 -24.47 -19.58 -23.49 -21.54 -25.45 -29.37
30 -40.35 -22.19 -26.23 -20.18 -20.18 -25.22 -25.22 -20.18 -24.21 -22.19 -26.23 -30.26

31 -41.53 -22.84 -27.00 -20.77 -20.77 -25.96 -25.96 -20.77 -24.92 -22.84 -27.00 -31.15
32 -42.70 -23.48 -27.75 -21.35 -21.35 -26.68 -26.68 -21.35 -25.62 -23.48 -27.75 -32.02
33 -43.84 -24.11 -28.50 -21.92 -21.92 -27.40 -27.40 -21.92 -26.30 -24.11 -28.50 -32.88
34 -44.96 -24.73 -29.22 -22.48 -22.48 -28.10 -28.10 -22.48 -26.98 -24.73 -29.22 -33.72
35 -46.05 -25.33 -29.93 -23.03 -23.03 -28.78 -28.78 -23.03 -27.63 -25.33 -29.93 -34.54
36 -47.11 -25.91 -30.62 -23.55 -23.55 -29.44 -29.44 -23.55 -28.27 -25.91 -30.62 -35.33
37 -48.13 -26.47 -31.28 -24.06 -24.06 -30.08 -30.08 -24.06 -28.88 -26.47 -31.28 -36.10
38 -49.10 -27.01 -31.92 -24.55 -24.55 -30.69 -30.69 -24.55 -29.46 -27.01 -31.92 -36.83
39 -50.03 -27.52 -32.52 -25.01 -25.01 -31.27 -31.27 -25.01 -30.02 -27.52 -32.52 -37.52
40 -50.90 -28.00 -33.09 -25.45 -25.45 -31.81 -31.81 -25.45 -30.54 -28.00 -33.09 -38.18

41 -51.72 -28.44 -33.61 -25.86 -25.86 -32.32 -32.32 -25.86 -31.03 -28.44 -33.61 -38.79
42 -52.46 -28.85 -34.10 -26.23 -26.23 -32.79 -32.79 -26.23 -31.48 -28.85 -34.10 -39.35
43 -53.14 -29.23 -34.54 -26.57 -26.57 -33.21 -33.21 -26.57 -31.88 -29.23 -34.54 -39.86
44 -53.74 -29.56 -34.93 -26.87 -26.87 -33.59 -33.59 -26.87 -32.25 -29.56 -34.93 -40.31
45 -54.26 -29.85 -35.27 -27.13 -27.13 -33.92 -33.92 -27.13 -32.56 -29.85 -35.27 -40.70
46 -54.70 -30.09 -35.56 -27.35 -27.35 -34.19 -34.19 -27.35 -32.82 -30.09 -35.56 -41.03
47 -55.05 -30.28 -35.78 -27.52 -27.52 -34.40 -34.40 -27.52 -33.03 -30.28 -35.78 -41.29
48 -55.30 -30.42 -35.94 -27.65 -27.65 -34.56 -34.56 -27.65 -33.18 -30.42 -35.94 -41.47
49 -55.46 -30.50 -36.05 -27.73 -27.73 -34.66 -34.66 -27.73 -33.27 -30.50 -36.05 -41.59
50 -55.61 -30.59 -36.15 -27.81 -27.81 -34.76 -34.76 -27.81 -33.37 -30.59 -36.15 -41.71</pre><hr />

Looking closely at the data, you can see a fairly simple relationship between the various ATs. The Blaster modifier values are the "base" values for damage, and the values for the other ATs are based on a proportion of the Blaster values. At level 1, all the ATs are within 10% of the Blaster values, but the differences increase from level 1-20. At level 20 and beyond, the proportional relationship remains fixed at a set level, shown below as percentages of the Blaster mod:
Code:[/color]<hr /><pre>% of "base" (blaster) damage mod
level blaster control defende scrappe tanker peacebr warshad brute stalker masterm dominat corrupt
melee 100.0 55.0 55.0 112.5 80.0 75.0 75.0 75.0 90.0 55.0 70.0 75.0
ranged 100.0 55.0 65.0 50.0 50.0 62.5 62.5 50.0 60.0 55.0 65.0 75.0</pre><hr />

So what does all this mean? Well, it gives us a simpler way of measuring the damage output of our attacks. A moderate damage attack that has a brawl index value of 2.7778 has a damage scale value of 1.0, and an extreme damage attack that has a brawl index value of 9.8889 has a damage scale value of 3.56. To calculate the damage scale of any attack, simply look at the chart for your AT and level, and divide your in-game damage vs. an even level foe with no resistance by the value in the chart. I don't know about the rest of you, but it's a lot easier for me to remember a moderate damage attack as 1.0 than as 2.77778. This also allows quick and easy calculations of your base damage at any level, and can often be done without the use of a calculator, since the damage scale numbers are rarely (if ever) more than 3 digits, and so are much easier to work with. You can look at the in-game enhancement management screen, and apply those bonuses to the damage scale value. For instance, a 2.0 attack would become 3.9 with 3 damage SOs.

For those of you who are willing to do a bit more math, you can use this to calculate your actual in-game damage against foes of any level, by simply multiplying the values in the chart below with your final damage output you calculated previously. On the left is the modifier for foes below your level, and on the right is for above your level.
Code:[/color]<hr /><pre>Relative level modifiers
level below above
0 1.00 1.00
1 1.11 0.90
2 1.22 0.80
3 1.33 0.65
4 1.44 0.48
5 1.55 0.30
6 1.66 0.15
7 1.77 0.08
8 1.88 0.05
9 2.00 0.04
10 2.10 0.03
11 2.20 0.02
12 2.30 0.01
13 2.40 0.01
14 2.50 0.01
15 2.60 0.01
16 2.70 0.01
17 2.80 0.01
18 2.90 0.01
19 3.00 0.01
20 3.10 0.01
21 3.20 0.01
22 3.30 0.01
23 3.40 0.01
24 3.50 0.01
25 3.60 0.01
26 3.70 0.01
27 3.80 0.01
28 3.90 0.01
29 4.00 0.01
30 4.10 0.01
31 4.20 0.01
32 4.30 0.01
33 4.40 0.01
34 4.50 0.01
35 4.60 0.01
36 4.70 0.01
37 4.80 0.01
38 4.90 0.01
39 5.00 0.01
40 5.10 0.01
41 5.20 0.01
42 5.30 0.01
43 5.40 0.01
44 5.50 0.01
45 5.60 0.01
46 5.70 0.01
47 5.80 0.01
48 5.90 0.01
49 6.00 0.01 </pre><hr />

This data standardization allows you to find the damage you can do against any foe at any level, and also gives testers the data needed to find out various other information about enemies, such as resistance and buff/debuff effects. For instance, if you attack a foe and you do 10% less damage than the above charts indicate you should, you then know that the foe has 10% resistance to your damage type.

iakona_NA · 02-09-2006 09:44 AM

PART 2: HIT POINTS AND HEALING
The hit point and healing tables are set up very similar to the damage mod tables; all the ATs are very close together for the first 6 levels, then they split apart more until they reach the final proportions at level 20. For hit points, corruptors and kheldians have the "base" value.
Code:[/color]<hr /><pre>HIT POINT TABLE
level blaster control defende scrappe tanker peacebr warshad brute stalker masterm dominat corrupt
1 102.50 99.00 99.00 105.00 115.00 100.00 100.00 108.00 99.00 95.00 99.00 100.00
2 113.40 109.34 109.34 116.30 127.90 110.50 110.50 119.78 109.34 104.70 109.34 110.50
3 125.30 120.40 120.40 128.80 142.81 121.80 121.80 133.01 120.40 114.80 120.40 121.80
4 138.11 132.25 132.25 142.30 159.04 133.93 133.93 147.32 132.25 125.56 132.25 133.93
5 151.87 144.93 144.93 156.83 176.66 146.91 146.91 162.78 144.93 136.99 144.93 146.91
6 166.80 158.36 158.36 172.83 196.94 160.77 160.77 180.06 158.36 148.71 158.36 160.77
7 183.20 172.45 172.45 190.88 221.60 175.52 175.52 200.10 172.45 160.16 172.45 175.52
8 200.75 187.37 187.37 210.31 248.55 191.19 191.19 221.78 187.37 172.07 187.37 191.19
9 219.47 203.11 203.11 231.16 277.91 207.78 207.78 245.18 203.11 184.41 203.11 207.78
10 239.39 219.67 219.67 253.47 309.79 225.30 225.30 270.36 219.67 197.14 219.67 225.30

11 260.52 237.06 237.06 277.28 344.31 243.76 243.76 297.39 237.06 210.24 237.06 243.76
12 282.88 255.25 255.25 302.62 381.56 263.15 263.15 326.30 255.25 223.68 255.25 263.15
13 306.49 274.24 274.24 329.52 421.64 283.46 283.46 357.16 274.24 237.39 274.24 283.46
14 331.33 294.01 294.01 357.99 464.63 304.67 304.67 389.98 294.01 251.35 294.01 304.67
15 357.41 314.52 314.52 388.04 510.58 326.77 326.77 424.81 314.52 265.50 314.52 326.77
16 384.71 335.74 335.74 419.68 559.57 349.73 349.73 461.65 335.74 279.79 335.74 349.73
17 413.20 357.64 357.64 452.89 611.63 373.51 373.51 500.51 357.64 294.14 357.64 373.51
18 442.86 380.16 380.16 487.64 666.78 398.08 398.08 541.38 380.16 308.51 380.16 398.08
19 473.65 403.26 403.26 523.92 725.03 423.37 423.37 584.25 403.26 322.82 403.26 423.37
20 505.51 426.88 426.88 561.68 786.35 449.34 449.34 629.08 426.88 337.01 426.88 449.34

21 535.42 452.13 452.13 594.91 832.88 475.93 475.93 666.30 452.13 356.95 452.13 475.93
22 565.94 477.90 477.90 628.82 880.35 503.06 503.06 704.28 477.90 377.29 477.90 503.06
23 596.98 504.12 504.12 663.31 928.64 530.65 530.65 742.91 504.12 397.99 504.12 530.65
24 628.46 530.70 530.70 698.28 977.60 558.63 558.63 782.08 530.70 418.97 530.70 558.63
25 660.26 557.55 557.55 733.62 1027.07 586.90 586.90 821.65 557.55 440.17 557.55 586.90
26 692.28 584.59 584.59 769.20 1076.88 615.36 615.36 861.50 584.59 461.52 584.59 615.36
27 724.41 611.72 611.72 804.90 1126.86 643.92 643.92 901.49 611.72 482.94 611.72 643.92
28 756.52 638.84 638.84 840.58 1176.82 672.47 672.47 941.45 638.84 504.35 638.84 672.47
29 788.50 665.85 665.85 876.11 1226.56 700.89 700.89 981.25 665.85 525.67 665.85 700.89
30 820.21 692.62 692.62 911.35 1275.88 729.08 729.08 1020.71 692.62 546.81 692.62 729.08

31 851.52 719.06 719.06 946.14 1324.59 756.91 756.91 1059.67 719.06 567.68 719.06 756.91
32 882.30 745.05 745.05 980.33 1372.46 784.27 784.27 1097.97 745.05 588.20 745.05 784.27
33 912.40 770.47 770.47 1013.78 1419.30 811.03 811.03 1135.44 770.47 608.27 770.47 811.03
34 941.70 795.22 795.22 1046.34 1464.87 837.07 837.07 1171.90 795.22 627.80 795.22 837.07
35 970.06 819.16 819.16 1077.84 1508.98 862.27 862.27 1207.18 819.16 646.70 819.16 862.27
36 997.33 842.19 842.19 1108.15 1551.41 886.52 886.52 1241.12 842.19 664.89 842.19 886.52
37 1023.40 864.20 864.20 1137.11 1591.95 909.69 909.69 1273.56 864.20 682.26 864.20 909.69
38 1048.12 885.08 885.08 1164.58 1630.41 931.66 931.66 1304.33 885.08 698.75 885.08 931.66
39 1071.38 904.72 904.72 1190.42 1666.59 952.34 952.34 1333.27 904.72 714.25 904.72 952.34
40 1093.05 923.02 923.02 1214.50 1700.30 971.60 971.60 1360.24 923.02 728.70 923.02 971.60

41 1113.03 939.89 939.89 1236.70 1731.38 989.36 989.36 1385.11 939.89 742.02 939.89 989.36
42 1131.21 955.24 955.24 1256.90 1759.66 1005.52 1005.52 1407.73 955.24 754.14 955.24 1005.52
43 1147.49 969.00 969.00 1274.99 1784.99 1020.00 1020.00 1427.99 969.00 765.00 969.00 1020.00
44 1161.80 981.07 981.07 1290.88 1807.24 1032.71 1032.71 1445.79 981.07 774.53 981.07 1032.71
45 1174.04 991.41 991.41 1304.49 1826.28 1043.59 1043.59 1461.03 991.41 782.69 991.41 1043.59
46 1184.16 999.96 999.96 1315.73 1842.02 1052.59 1052.59 1473.62 999.96 789.44 999.96 1052.59
47 1192.10 1006.66 1006.66 1324.56 1854.38 1059.64 1059.64 1483.50 1006.66 794.73 1006.66 1059.64
48 1197.82 1011.49 1011.49 1330.91 1863.28 1064.73 1064.73 1490.62 1011.49 798.55 1011.49 1064.73
49 1201.29 1014.42 1014.42 1334.77 1868.67 1067.81 1067.81 1494.94 1014.42 800.86 1014.42 1067.81
50 1204.76 1017.35 1017.35 1338.62 1874.07 1070.90 1070.90 1499.26 1017.35 803.17 1017.35 1070.90

below are the proportions of each AT's hit points compared to corruptors and kheldians (in %)
112.5 95.0 95.0 125.0 175.0 100.0 100.0 140.0 95.0 75.0 95.0 100.0</pre><hr />

Since we now have ally HP boost powers in the game (frostwork for corruptors) in addition to the dull pain powers and HP boosting accolades and IoPs, it's good to have a list of the maximum HP caps for each AT. These start at around 150% of base HP at level 1, and by level 20 they reach the set percentages listed at the bottom of the table. Add up each of your HP boosting powers, and if the total (100% base HP + boost%) is at or above the percentages listed, your HP has reached the cap.
Code:[/color]<hr /><pre>Max HP caps
level blaster control defende scrappe tanker peacebr warshad brute stalker masterm dominat corrupt
1 150.00 150.00 150.00 165.00 180.00 165.00 165.00 180.00 150.00 150.00 150.00 150.00
2 165.75 165.75 165.75 183.15 200.56 183.15 183.15 200.56 165.75 165.75 165.75 165.75
3 182.70 182.70 182.70 203.71 224.72 203.71 203.71 224.72 182.70 182.70 182.70 182.70
4 200.89 200.89 200.89 226.00 251.11 226.00 226.00 251.11 200.89 200.89 200.89 200.89
5 220.36 220.36 220.36 250.11 279.86 250.11 250.11 279.86 220.36 220.36 220.36 220.36
6 241.15 241.15 241.15 277.32 313.50 277.32 277.32 313.50 241.15 241.15 241.15 241.15
7 263.28 263.28 263.28 309.36 355.43 309.36 309.36 355.43 263.28 263.28 263.28 263.28
8 286.78 286.78 286.78 344.14 401.50 344.14 344.14 401.50 286.78 286.78 286.78 286.78
9 311.67 311.67 311.67 381.80 451.92 381.80 381.80 451.92 311.67 311.67 311.67 311.67
10 337.96 337.96 337.96 422.45 506.93 422.45 422.45 506.93 337.96 337.96 337.96 337.96

11 365.64 365.64 365.64 466.19 566.74 466.19 466.19 566.74 365.64 365.64 365.64 365.64
12 394.72 394.72 394.72 513.14 631.55 513.14 513.14 631.55 394.72 394.72 394.72 394.72
13 425.18 425.18 425.18 563.37 701.55 563.37 563.37 701.55 425.18 425.18 425.18 425.18
14 457.01 457.01 457.01 616.96 776.91 616.96 616.96 776.91 457.01 457.01 457.01 457.01
15 490.16 490.16 490.16 673.97 857.78 673.97 673.97 857.78 490.16 490.16 490.16 490.16
16 524.60 524.60 524.60 734.44 944.28 734.44 734.44 944.28 524.60 524.60 524.60 524.60
17 560.27 560.27 560.27 798.39 1036.50 798.39 798.39 1036.50 560.27 560.27 560.27 560.27
18 597.12 597.12 597.12 865.82 1134.52 865.82 865.82 1134.52 597.12 597.12 597.12 597.12
19 635.06 635.06 635.06 936.71 1238.36 936.71 936.71 1238.36 635.06 635.06 635.06 635.06
20 674.02 674.02 674.02 1011.02 1348.03 1011.02 1011.02 1348.03 674.02 674.02 674.02 674.02

21 713.89 713.89 713.89 1070.84 1427.79 1070.84 1070.84 1427.79 713.89 713.89 713.89 713.89
22 754.59 754.59 754.59 1131.88 1509.17 1131.88 1131.88 1509.17 754.59 754.59 754.59 754.59
23 795.98 795.98 795.98 1193.96 1591.95 1193.96 1193.96 1591.95 795.98 795.98 795.98 795.98
24 837.94 837.94 837.94 1256.91 1675.88 1256.91 1256.91 1675.88 837.94 837.94 837.94 837.94
25 880.34 880.34 880.34 1320.51 1760.69 1320.51 1320.51 1760.69 880.34 880.34 880.34 880.34
26 923.04 923.04 923.04 1384.56 1846.08 1384.56 1384.56 1846.08 923.04 923.04 923.04 923.04
27 965.88 965.88 965.88 1448.82 1931.76 1448.82 1448.82 1931.76 965.88 965.88 965.88 965.88
28 1008.70 1008.70 1008.70 1513.05 2017.40 1513.05 1513.05 2017.40 1008.70 1008.70 1008.70 1008.70
29 1051.34 1051.34 1051.34 1577.00 2102.67 1577.00 1577.00 2102.67 1051.34 1051.34 1051.34 1051.34
30 1093.62 1093.62 1093.62 1640.42 2187.23 1640.42 1640.42 2187.23 1093.62 1093.62 1093.62 1093.62

31 1135.36 1135.36 1135.36 1703.04 2270.73 1703.04 1703.04 2270.73 1135.36 1135.36 1135.36 1135.36
32 1176.40 1176.40 1176.40 1764.60 2352.80 1764.60 1764.60 2352.80 1176.40 1176.40 1176.40 1176.40
33 1216.54 1216.54 1216.54 1824.81 2433.08 1824.81 1824.81 2433.08 1216.54 1216.54 1216.54 1216.54
34 1255.60 1255.60 1255.60 1883.41 2511.21 1883.41 1883.41 2511.21 1255.60 1255.60 1255.60 1255.60
35 1293.41 1293.41 1293.41 1940.11 2586.82 1940.11 1940.11 2586.82 1293.41 1293.41 1293.41 1293.41
36 1329.78 1329.78 1329.78 1994.66 2659.55 1994.66 1994.66 2659.55 1329.78 1329.78 1329.78 1329.78
37 1364.53 1364.53 1364.53 2046.79 2729.06 2046.79 2046.79 2729.06 1364.53 1364.53 1364.53 1364.53
38 1397.49 1397.49 1397.49 2096.24 2794.98 2096.24 2096.24 2794.98 1397.49 1397.49 1397.49 1397.49
39 1428.50 1428.50 1428.50 2142.75 2857.01 2142.75 2142.75 2857.01 1428.50 1428.50 1428.50 1428.50
40 1457.40 1457.40 1457.40 2186.10 2914.81 2186.10 2186.10 2914.81 1457.40 1457.40 1457.40 1457.40

41 1484.04 1484.04 1484.04 2226.06 2968.08 2226.06 2226.06 2968.08 1484.04 1484.04 1484.04 1484.04
42 1508.28 1508.28 1508.28 2262.42 3016.56 2262.42 2262.42 3016.56 1508.28 1508.28 1508.28 1508.28
43 1529.99 1529.99 1529.99 2294.99 3059.99 2294.99 2294.99 3059.99 1529.99 1529.99 1529.99 1529.99
44 1549.06 1549.06 1549.06 2323.59 3098.12 2323.59 2323.59 3098.12 1549.06 1549.06 1549.06 1549.06
45 1565.39 1565.39 1565.39 2348.08 3130.77 2348.08 2348.08 3130.77 1565.39 1565.39 1565.39 1565.39
46 1578.88 1578.88 1578.88 2368.32 3157.76 2368.32 2368.32 3157.76 1578.88 1578.88 1578.88 1578.88
47 1589.47 1589.47 1589.47 2384.20 3178.93 2384.20 2384.20 3178.93 1589.47 1589.47 1589.47 1589.47
48 1597.09 1597.09 1597.09 2395.64 3194.19 2395.64 2395.64 3194.19 1597.09 1597.09 1597.09 1597.09
49 1601.72 1601.72 1601.72 2402.58 3203.44 2402.58 2402.58 3203.44 1601.72 1601.72 1601.72 1601.72
50 1606.35 1606.35 1606.35 2409.52 3212.69 2409.52 2409.52 3212.69 1606.35 1606.35 1606.35 1606.35

And as a percent of the base HP for each AT:
133.3 157.9 157.9 180.0 171.4 225.0 225.0 214.3 157.9 200.0 157.9 150.0
</pre><hr />

The healing tables are set up a bit differently. The differences between the ATs are set all the way from 1-50, so there's no variation in comparative effectiveness, unlike the damage and HP scales. The "base" values for the healing mods are held by masterminds and dominators. The calculations for healing powers are exactly the same as for damage; simply find your AT and level, and multiply it by the scalar healing value for the power. Example: Alkaloid (level 1 mastermind power) has a scalar healing value of 3.0, so a level 25 MM would heal for 3.0 * 58.69 = 176.07 points of damage.
Code:[/color]<hr /><pre>Healing Modifier Table
level blaster control defende scrappe tanker peacebr warshad brute stalker masterm dominat corrupt
1 9.00 11.00 12.50 9.00 9.00 9.00 9.00 9.00 9.00 10.00 10.00 11.00
2 9.94 12.15 13.81 9.94 9.94 9.94 9.94 9.94 9.94 11.05 11.05 12.15
3 10.96 13.40 15.23 10.96 10.96 10.96 10.96 10.96 10.96 12.18 12.18 13.40
4 12.05 14.73 16.74 12.05 12.05 12.05 12.05 12.05 12.05 13.39 13.39 14.73
5 13.22 16.16 18.36 13.22 13.22 13.22 13.22 13.22 13.22 14.69 14.69 16.16
6 14.47 17.68 20.10 14.47 14.47 14.47 14.47 14.47 14.47 16.08 16.08 17.68
7 15.80 19.31 21.94 15.80 15.80 15.80 15.80 15.80 15.80 17.55 17.55 19.31
8 17.21 21.03 23.90 17.21 17.21 17.21 17.21 17.21 17.21 19.12 19.12 21.03
9 18.70 22.86 25.97 18.70 18.70 18.70 18.70 18.70 18.70 20.78 20.78 22.86
10 20.28 24.78 28.16 20.28 20.28 20.28 20.28 20.28 20.28 22.53 22.53 24.78

11 21.94 26.81 30.47 21.94 21.94 21.94 21.94 21.94 21.94 24.38 24.38 26.81
12 23.68 28.95 32.89 23.68 23.68 23.68 23.68 23.68 23.68 26.31 26.31 28.95
13 25.51 31.18 35.43 25.51 25.51 25.51 25.51 25.51 25.51 28.35 28.35 31.18
14 27.42 33.51 38.08 27.42 27.42 27.42 27.42 27.42 27.42 30.47 30.47 33.51
15 29.41 35.95 40.85 29.41 29.41 29.41 29.41 29.41 29.41 32.68 32.68 35.95
16 31.48 38.47 43.72 31.48 31.48 31.48 31.48 31.48 31.48 34.97 34.97 38.47
17 33.62 41.09 46.69 33.62 33.62 33.62 33.62 33.62 33.62 37.35 37.35 41.09
18 35.83 43.79 49.76 35.83 35.83 35.83 35.83 35.83 35.83 39.81 39.81 43.79
19 38.10 46.57 52.92 38.10 38.10 38.10 38.10 38.10 38.10 42.34 42.34 46.57
20 40.44 49.43 56.17 40.44 40.44 40.44 40.44 40.44 40.44 44.93 44.93 49.43

21 42.83 52.35 59.49 42.83 42.83 42.83 42.83 42.83 42.83 47.59 47.59 52.35
22 45.28 55.34 62.88 45.28 45.28 45.28 45.28 45.28 45.28 50.31 50.31 55.34
23 47.76 58.37 66.33 47.76 47.76 47.76 47.76 47.76 47.76 53.07 53.07 58.37
24 50.28 61.45 69.83 50.28 50.28 50.28 50.28 50.28 50.28 55.86 55.86 61.45
25 52.82 64.56 73.36 52.82 52.82 52.82 52.82 52.82 52.82 58.69 58.69 64.56
26 55.38 67.69 76.92 55.38 55.38 55.38 55.38 55.38 55.38 61.54 61.54 67.69
27 57.95 70.83 80.49 57.95 57.95 57.95 57.95 57.95 57.95 64.39 64.39 70.83
28 60.52 73.97 84.06 60.52 60.52 60.52 60.52 60.52 60.52 67.25 67.25 73.97
29 63.08 77.10 87.61 63.08 63.08 63.08 63.08 63.08 63.08 70.09 70.09 77.10
30 65.62 80.20 91.13 65.62 65.62 65.62 65.62 65.62 65.62 72.91 72.91 80.20

31 68.12 83.26 94.61 68.12 68.12 68.12 68.12 68.12 68.12 75.69 75.69 83.26
32 70.58 86.27 98.03 70.58 70.58 70.58 70.58 70.58 70.58 78.43 78.43 86.27
33 72.99 89.21 101.38 72.99 72.99 72.99 72.99 72.99 72.99 81.10 81.10 89.21
34 75.34 92.08 104.63 75.34 75.34 75.34 75.34 75.34 75.34 83.71 83.71 92.08
35 77.60 94.85 107.78 77.60 77.60 77.60 77.60 77.60 77.60 86.23 86.23 94.85
36 79.79 97.52 110.81 79.79 79.79 79.79 79.79 79.79 79.79 88.65 88.65 97.52
37 81.87 100.07 113.71 81.87 81.87 81.87 81.87 81.87 81.87 90.97 90.97 100.07
38 83.85 102.48 116.46 83.85 83.85 83.85 83.85 83.85 83.85 93.17 93.17 102.48
39 85.71 104.76 119.04 85.71 85.71 85.71 85.71 85.71 85.71 95.23 95.23 104.76
40 87.44 106.88 121.45 87.44 87.44 87.44 87.44 87.44 87.44 97.16 97.16 106.88

41 89.04 108.83 123.67 89.04 89.04 89.04 89.04 89.04 89.04 98.94 98.94 108.83
42 90.50 110.61 125.69 90.50 90.50 90.50 90.50 90.50 90.50 100.55 100.55 110.61
43 91.80 112.20 127.50 91.80 91.80 91.80 91.80 91.80 91.80 102.00 102.00 112.20
44 92.94 113.60 129.09 92.94 92.94 92.94 92.94 92.94 92.94 103.27 103.27 113.60
45 93.92 114.79 130.45 93.92 93.92 93.92 93.92 93.92 93.92 104.36 104.36 114.79
46 94.73 115.78 131.57 94.73 94.73 94.73 94.73 94.73 94.73 105.26 105.26 115.78
47 95.37 116.56 132.46 95.37 95.37 95.37 95.37 95.37 95.37 105.96 105.96 116.56
48 95.83 117.12 133.09 95.83 95.83 95.83 95.83 95.83 95.83 106.47 106.47 117.12
49 96.10 117.46 133.48 96.10 96.10 96.10 96.10 96.10 96.10 106.78 106.78 117.46
50 96.38 117.80 133.86 96.38 96.38 96.38 96.38 96.38 96.38 107.09 107.09 117.80</pre><hr />

Using this standardization system, we can compile loads of new data about various enemies that would be much more difficult and cumbersome otherwise. As such, I hope that the community in general is willing to adapt and change from the Brawl Index system that many are familiar with, to this universal system that works with all ATs, levels, and environments.

Maldini_NA · 02-09-2006 09:57 AM

Very nice work

iakona_NA · 02-09-2006 10:37 AM

Next up I'll be adding the NPC base damage and hit point data, including pets and henchmen, and all ranks of foes. With that, we can start finding the scalar damage values for all enemy attacks, and predict more precisely the enemy damage output rate in any given situation. It's a monumental amount of data to sort through and organize, but in the end it will (hopefully) result in a more knowledgable player base, and less uninformed decisions. Plus, if we know what the in-game results are supposed to be, we can more easily spot the bugs that slip through the cracks in development. All in all, a better overall gameplay experience for the community.

Additional note: Scalar healing values I have personally verified: Empathy>Healing Aura is 1.0; Empathy>Heal Other is 1.96; Empathy>Absorb Pain is 5.0, with 3.0 ranged damage to the caster.

iakona_NA · 02-14-2006 07:55 AM

Something I missed in my analysis of the damage charts is the separate data for Kheldian ShapeShift forms. This missing data is listed below.

Code:[/color]<hr /><pre>BASE KHELDIAN SHAPESHIFT DAMAGE

Level Dwarf Form Nova Form
1 -9.70 -10.40
2 -10.40 -11.19
3 -11.10 -12.03
4 -11.83 -12.91
5 -12.58 -13.82
6 -13.34 -14.80
7 -14.06 -15.88
8 -14.80 -17.00
9 -15.55 -18.18
10 -16.31 -19.40
11 -17.08 -20.66
12 -17.85 -21.97
13 -18.63 -23.33
14 -19.42 -24.73
15 -20.20 -26.18
16 -20.99 -27.67
17 -21.78 -29.21
18 -22.57 -30.78
19 -23.35 -32.40
20 -24.13 -34.06
21 -25.12 -35.47
22 -26.13 -36.89
23 -27.14 -38.32
24 -28.16 -39.76
25 -29.18 -41.20
26 -30.21 -42.65
27 -31.24 -44.10
28 -32.26 -45.55
29 -33.28 -46.99
30 -34.30 -48.42
31 -35.30 -49.84
32 -36.29 -51.23
33 -37.26 -52.61
34 -38.22 -53.95
35 -39.14 -55.26
36 -40.04 -56.53
37 -40.91 -57.75
38 -41.74 -58.92
39 -42.53 -60.04
40 -43.27 -61.08
41 -43.96 -62.06
42 -44.59 -62.96
43 -45.17 -63.77
44 -45.68 -64.49
45 -46.12 -65.12
46 -46.50 -65.64
47 -46.79 -66.06
48 -47.01 -66.36
49 -47.14 -66.55
50 -47.27 -66.73 </pre><hr />

The_Foo · 02-15-2006 08:13 AM

Very interesting. I'm calling in the math monkeys to intensely examine and verify this work.

Steel yourself; the whirlwind comes.

Sword_NA · 02-15-2006 08:26 AM

Dude... that's like...

a LOT of numbers.

Yeah, I'm not one of these fabled Math Monkies

Golden_Ace · 02-15-2006 08:31 AM

Very interesting. I always thought that Blaster ranged damage was equal to Scraper melee damage and vice-versa. Thanks for the information.

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Soulscorch · 02-15-2006 08:53 AM

Are you sure about that scrapper ranged attack column?

Becuase powers like focus and impale would have to have incredibly high indexes with those numbers. Around 10 or so from a quick estimate.

At level 31 my spines/da does lik 120-150 damage with impale 3 Slotted for damage IIRC. So lets say it's a base of 60. If his brawl is 20.77 *.36 = 7.48. That means the index of impale is 60/7.48 = 8.02. That was going with the low estimate. That power may be close to 10, I really can't remember his exact damage.

Are you sure their ranged brawl isnt' the same as thier melee brawl?

If I'm reading this wrong, then please let me know. Thanks

Soulscorch · 02-15-2006 09:01 AM

One more thing, I was always under the impression that blaster melee was 10% stronger than blaster ranged attacks. Is that not true, or is it represented differently in your chart somehow?

Mafalin · 02-15-2006 09:33 AM

So, if I'm understanding this correctly a defender would do more damage with dark blast than a scrapper?

Edit: That is, if they have the same damage scale value of course.

iakona_NA · 02-15-2006 09:47 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Are you sure about that scrapper ranged attack column?

Becuase powers like focus and impale would have to have incredibly high indexes with those numbers. Around 10 or so from a quick estimate.

At level 31 my spines/da does lik 120-150 damage with impale 3 Slotted for damage IIRC. So lets say it's a base of 60. If his brawl is 20.77 *.36 = 7.48. That means the index of impale is 60/7.48 = 8.02. That was going with the low estimate. That power may be close to 10, I really can't remember his exact damage.

Are you sure their ranged brawl isnt' the same as thier melee brawl?

If I'm reading this wrong, then please let me know. Thanks

[/ QUOTE ]

Brawl is a melee attack, so it uses the level 31 Scrapper Melee Table value of -46.72 * .36 = 16.82
The old brawl index system compared all powers, regardless of melee or range, to this number (which caused inaccurate results in some situations). So, using the old brawl index system, that'd be 60 / 16.82 = 3.57 on the low end, and 75 / 16.82 = 4.46 on the high end (which is close to the commonly accepted 4.5555 BI value for impale).

Under the new system, impale would have a scalar ranged damage value of 60 / 20.77 = about 3.0 or 75 / 20.77 = about 3.6 (Using the BI value, it'd be (4.5555 * 16.82) / 20.77 = about 3.69).

iakona_NA · 02-15-2006 09:49 AM

[ QUOTE ]
One more thing, I was always under the impression that blaster melee was 10% stronger than blaster ranged attacks. Is that not true, or is it represented differently in your chart somehow?

[/ QUOTE ]

This is likely built in to the powers, rather than the AT modifiers.

iakona_NA · 02-15-2006 09:50 AM

[ QUOTE ]
So, if I'm understanding this correctly a defender would do more damage with dark blast than a scrapper?

Edit: That is, if they have the same damage scale value of course.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, if they both used an identical ranged power, the defender would do more damage.

Soulscorch · 02-15-2006 09:56 AM

Cool, thanks for the clarification. That makes more sense.

TopDoc · 02-15-2006 10:08 AM

Let me add a new chart. Every AT has a fixed modifier that adjusts their melee or ranged damage off base Blaster damage. For example, in your "% of base (Blaster) damage mod" table, Controllers do 55% of Blaster base damage at higher levels. That means Controllers have a -45% damage modifier. This modifier is scaled at lower levels as follows:

1 0.20
2 0.21
3 0.23
4 0.25
5 0.27
6 0.30
7 0.35
8 0.40
9 0.45
10 0.50
11 0.55
12 0.60
13 0.65
14 0.70
15 0.75
16 0.80
17 0.85
18 0.90
19 0.95
20+ 1.00

In other words, the Controller modifier of -45% is multiplied by 0.20 at level 1, resulting in a 9% damage reduction off Blaster base. This matches the info in your chart, as Blasters at level 1 do -10.00, while Controllers do -9.10. The table above looks too clean to be an accident, so it is likely the actual table used to scale the AT damage modifier at lower levels.

I used the table above, your "% of base (blaster) damage mod" info, and the Blaster damage column to reproduce most of your "Melee damage modifier table" and only got a small number of differences that were +/- 0.01.

Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304

iakona_NA · 02-15-2006 10:23 AM

Yep, that looks about right. Glancing over the HP table, it looks like it applies there, too.

Stupid_Fanboy · 02-15-2006 10:47 AM

could you explain why you added these modifiers rather than simply listing the brawl damage for each at at each level.

also, could you explain why you differentiate between range and melee charts because i see it as adding an unnecessary level of complexity.

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Blueeyed · 02-15-2006 11:04 AM

The only reason I know of to use a seperate melee and brawl damage base would be in the case of Defenders. They have attacks with a shared damage scale (Electric and Energy Blast, Archery). Using their melee brawl to measure the damage done by an attack will either give too high results, or require seperate damage scale measurements for the Blasts.

I also believe that none of the Scrapper ranged attacks work off their ranged scale, as they do damage similar to a melee attack with the same recharge rate.

TopDoc · 02-15-2006 11:06 AM

How did you get your numbers for Kheldians in their forms? I know you can use Brawl to directly compare melee attacks across all ATs. And I assume you used the new level 1-10 temp powers that everyone gets to directly compare ranged damage. But you can't do the same for Kheldians in their forms, as I don't believe they can use any other powers. (There used to be bugs with some temp powers being available while in a form, but last I knew those were all fixed.)

Also, the numbers for Nova form seem too high. Did you know that Nova form has a built-in +45% damage buff? I played around with Damage Inspirations to figure this out. A single Damage Insp will not increase the damage on an unslotted Nova attack by 25%. If I recall, it only appears to increase it by 17% or so. If you take a lot to cap damage (400%), divide by 4 to find the base damage of the attack, then compare that to how much you actually do with it unslotted, I believe you'll find that it's +45%. Though for all I know it's changed.

Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304

iakona_NA · 02-15-2006 11:44 AM

If someone can get me the baseline damage numbers for a level 20+ kheld, I'll double check the table. I need the unenhanced, unbuffed damage of each of the 4 nova form attacks, and the corresponding human form attacks. Attack an even level minion with no vulnerabilities, and record those 8 numbers.

iakona_NA · 02-15-2006 11:58 AM

Here's the NPC damage and hit point tables I promised a few days ago. As always, these are the base values, and do not take into account any buffs, debuffs, or other combat modifiers.
Code:[/color]<hr /><pre> MAX HP, BY LEVEL AND RANK
Level Undrlng Minion Lieuten Boss Elite B ArchVil G Monst Pets L1Hench L2Hench L3Hench
1 9.3 20.0 73.3 108.0 180.0 864.0 1440.0 100.0 98.0 98.0 98.0
2 13.1 24.6 81.9 122.7 204.4 981.2 1635.4 110.5 105.3 106.7 108.2
3 17.6 29.8 91.1 138.9 231.4 1110.8 1851.4 121.8 112.7 115.8 119.0
4 20.1 35.8 101.2 156.7 261.2 1253.6 2089.3 133.9 120.2 125.4 130.6
5 22.0 42.6 112.1 176.3 293.8 1410.3 2350.5 146.9 127.7 135.3 142.9
6 24.1 50.2 123.9 197.7 329.6 1582.0 2636.6 160.8 135.2 145.6 155.9
7 26.3 58.8 136.6 221.2 368.6 1769.3 2948.8 175.5 142.3 155.9 169.4
8 28.7 68.3 150.2 246.6 411.1 1973.1 3288.5 191.2 149.4 166.5 183.5
9 31.2 79.0 164.8 274.3 457.1 2194.2 3656.9 207.8 156.2 177.3 198.4
10 33.8 90.6 180.4 304.2 506.9 2433.3 4055.5 225.3 162.8 188.4 214.0

11 36.6 98.1 195.2 336.4 560.6 2691.1 4485.2 243.8 169.1 199.7 230.4
12 39.5 105.9 210.7 371.0 618.4 2968.3 4947.2 263.1 175.0 211.2 247.4
13 42.5 114.0 227.0 408.2 680.3 3265.4 5442.4 283.5 180.4 222.7 265.0
14 45.7 122.6 244.0 447.9 746.4 3582.9 5971.6 304.7 185.4 234.4 283.3
15 49.0 131.4 261.7 490.2 816.9 3921.3 6535.5 326.8 189.7 246.0 302.3
16 52.5 140.7 280.0 524.6 874.3 4196.8 6994.6 349.7 193.4 257.6 321.8
17 56.0 150.2 299.1 560.3 933.8 4482.2 7470.3 373.5 205.1 273.4 341.8
18 59.7 160.1 318.8 597.1 995.2 4776.9 7961.5 398.1 217.4 289.8 362.3
19 63.5 170.3 339.0 635.1 1058.4 5080.5 8467.4 423.4 229.9 306.5 383.2
20 67.4 180.7 359.8 674.0 1123.4 5392.1 8986.9 449.3 242.6 323.5 404.4

21 71.4 191.4 381.1 728.2 1249.3 5939.6 9899.3 475.9 257.0 342.7 428.3
22 75.5 202.4 402.8 784.8 1396.0 6519.6 10866.0 503.1 271.7 362.2 452.8
23 79.6 213.5 424.9 843.7 1618.5 7131.9 11886.6 530.7 286.6 382.1 477.6
24 83.8 224.7 447.3 905.0 1857.4 7776.1 12960.1 558.6 301.7 402.2 502.8
25 88.0 236.1 470.0 968.4 2112.8 8451.3 14085.5 586.9 316.9 422.6 528.2
26 92.3 247.5 492.7 1033.8 2384.5 9156.6 15260.9 615.4 332.3 443.1 553.8
27 96.6 259.0 515.6 1101.1 2672.3 9890.6 16484.3 643.9 347.7 463.6 579.5
28 100.9 270.5 538.5 1170.1 2975.7 10651.9 17753.1 672.5 363.1 484.2 605.2
29 105.1 281.9 561.2 1240.6 3294.2 11438.5 19064.2 700.9 378.5 504.6 630.8
30 109.4 293.3 583.8 1312.3 3627.2 12248.5 20414.2 729.1 393.7 524.9 656.2

31 113.5 304.5 606.1 1385.1 3784.5 13079.4 21799.0 756.9 408.7 545.0 681.2
32 117.6 315.5 628.0 1458.7 3921.3 13928.6 23214.3 784.3 423.5 564.7 705.8
33 121.7 326.2 649.4 1532.8 4055.1 14793.1 24655.2 811.0 438.0 583.9 729.9
34 125.6 336.7 670.3 1607.2 4185.3 15669.9 26116.6 837.1 452.0 602.7 753.4
35 129.3 346.8 690.5 1681.4 4311.4 16555.6 27592.7 862.3 465.6 620.8 776.0
36 133.0 356.6 709.9 1755.3 4432.6 17446.7 29077.8 886.5 478.7 638.3 797.9
37 136.5 365.9 728.4 1828.5 4548.4 18339.3 30565.4 909.7 491.2 655.0 818.7
38 139.7 374.8 746.0 1900.6 4658.3 19229.5 32049.1 931.7 503.1 670.8 838.5
39 142.9 383.1 762.6 1971.3 4761.7 20113.3 33522.2 952.3 514.3 685.7 857.1
40 145.7 390.8 778.0 2040.4 4858.0 20986.6 34977.7 971.6 524.7 699.6 874.4

41 148.4 398.0 792.2 2107.3 4946.8 21845.1 36408.5 989.4 534.3 712.3 890.4
42 150.8 404.5 805.2 2171.9 5027.6 22684.5 37807.6 1005.5 543.0 724.0 905.0
43 153.0 410.3 816.8 2233.8 5100.0 23500.7 39167.8 1020.0 550.8 734.4 918.0
44 154.9 415.4 826.9 2292.6 5163.5 24289.3 40482.1 1032.7 557.7 743.5 929.4
45 156.5 419.8 835.7 2348.1 5218.0 25046.2 41743.6 1043.6 563.5 751.4 939.2
46 157.9 423.4 842.9 2399.9 5262.9 25767.3 42945.5 1052.6 568.4 757.9 947.3
47 158.9 426.2 848.5 2447.8 5298.2 26448.7 44081.2 1059.6 572.2 762.9 953.7
48 159.7 428.3 852.6 2491.5 5323.6 27086.7 45144.5 1064.7 575.0 766.6 958.3
49 160.2 429.5 855.1 2530.7 5339.1 27677.7 46129.5 1067.8 576.6 768.8 961.0
50 160.6 430.8 857.5 2570.2 5354.5 28271.7 47119.5 1070.9 578.3 771.0 963.8

51 161.1 432.0 860.0 2609.8 5369.9 28868.6 48114.3 1074.0 579.9 773.3 966.6
52 161.6 433.2 862.5 2649.6 5385.3 29468.5 49114.2 1077.1 581.6 775.5 969.4
53 162.0 434.5 864.9 2689.6 5400.7 30071.3 50118.9 1080.1 583.3 777.7 972.1
54 162.5 435.7 867.4 2729.7 5416.2 30677.2 51128.6 1083.2 584.9 779.9 974.9
55 162.9 437.0 869.9 2770.1 5431.6 31285.9 52143.2 1086.3 586.6 782.1 977.7 </pre><hr />

Code:[/color]<hr /><pre> MELEE DAMAGE, BY LEVEL AND RANK
Level Undrlng Minion Lieuten Boss Elite B ArchVil G Monst Pets L1Hench L2Hench L3Hench
1 -4.72 -6.75 -10.13 -9.72 -9.72 -14.58 -14.58 -10.00 -8.90 -9.10 -9.30
2 -5.66 -8.08 -12.12 -11.96 -11.96 -17.94 -17.94 -10.73 -9.49 -9.72 -9.95
3 -6.71 -9.59 -14.39 -14.58 -14.58 -21.87 -21.87 -11.50 -10.04 -10.31 -10.57
4 -7.91 -11.30 -16.95 -17.63 -17.63 -26.44 -26.44 -12.29 -10.60 -10.91 -11.22
5 -9.26 -13.22 -19.83 -21.15 -21.15 -31.73 -31.73 -13.11 -11.17 -11.52 -11.87
6 -10.76 -15.37 -23.06 -25.21 -25.21 -37.82 -37.82 -13.96 -11.66 -12.08 -12.50
7 -12.44 -17.77 -26.66 -29.86 -29.86 -44.78 -44.78 -14.84 -11.98 -12.50 -13.02
8 -14.30 -20.43 -30.65 -35.15 -35.15 -52.72 -52.72 -15.75 -12.28 -12.91 -13.54
9 -16.36 -23.38 -35.06 -41.14 -41.14 -61.71 -61.71 -16.68 -12.55 -13.30 -14.05
10 -17.74 -25.35 -38.02 -45.62 -45.62 -68.44 -68.44 -17.63 -12.78 -13.66 -14.55

11 -19.20 -27.42 -41.13 -50.46 -50.46 -75.69 -75.69 -18.61 -12.98 -14.01 -15.03
12 -20.72 -29.60 -44.41 -55.66 -55.66 -83.48 -83.48 -19.62 -13.14 -14.32 -15.50
13 -22.32 -31.89 -47.83 -61.23 -61.23 -91.84 -91.84 -20.64 -13.26 -14.61 -15.95
14 -23.99 -34.28 -51.41 -67.18 -67.18 -100.77 -100.77 -21.69 -13.34 -14.86 -16.38
15 -25.73 -36.76 -55.14 -73.52 -73.52 -110.29 -110.29 -22.76 -13.37 -15.08 -16.79
16 -27.54 -39.34 -59.02 -78.69 -78.69 -118.03 -118.03 -23.85 -13.36 -15.27 -17.17
17 -29.41 -42.02 -63.03 -84.04 -84.04 -126.06 -126.06 -24.96 -13.29 -15.41 -17.54
18 -31.35 -44.78 -67.18 -89.57 -89.57 -134.35 -134.35 -26.09 -13.17 -15.52 -17.87
19 -33.34 -47.63 -71.44 -95.26 -95.26 -142.89 -142.89 -27.23 -13.00 -15.59 -18.18
20 -35.39 -50.55 -75.83 -101.10 -101.10 -151.65 -151.65 -28.39 -12.77 -15.61 -18.45

21 -37.48 -53.54 -80.31 -109.23 -112.44 -167.05 -167.05 -29.56 -13.30 -16.26 -19.21
22 -39.62 -56.59 -84.89 -117.72 -125.64 -183.36 -183.36 -30.74 -13.83 -16.91 -19.98
23 -41.79 -59.70 -89.55 -126.56 -145.66 -200.59 -200.59 -31.93 -14.37 -17.56 -20.75
24 -43.99 -62.85 -94.27 -135.75 -167.17 -218.70 -218.70 -33.13 -14.91 -18.22 -21.53
25 -46.22 -66.03 -99.04 -145.26 -190.15 -237.69 -237.69 -34.33 -15.45 -18.88 -22.32
26 -48.46 -69.23 -103.84 -155.07 -214.61 -257.53 -257.53 -35.54 -15.99 -19.55 -23.10
27 -50.71 -72.44 -108.66 -165.17 -240.50 -278.17 -278.17 -36.75 -16.54 -20.21 -23.89
28 -52.96 -75.65 -113.48 -175.51 -267.81 -299.58 -299.58 -37.96 -17.08 -20.88 -24.67
29 -55.20 -78.85 -118.28 -186.09 -296.48 -321.71 -321.71 -39.16 -17.62 -21.54 -25.45
30 -57.41 -82.02 -123.03 -196.85 -326.44 -344.49 -344.49 -40.35 -18.16 -22.19 -26.23

31 -59.61 -85.15 -127.73 -207.77 -340.61 -367.86 -367.86 -41.53 -18.69 -22.84 -27.00
32 -61.76 -88.23 -132.34 -218.81 -352.92 -391.74 -391.74 -42.70 -19.21 -23.48 -27.75
33 -63.87 -91.24 -136.86 -229.93 -364.96 -416.06 -416.06 -43.84 -19.73 -24.11 -28.50
34 -65.92 -94.17 -141.26 -241.08 -376.68 -440.72 -440.72 -44.96 -20.23 -24.73 -29.22
35 -67.90 -97.01 -145.51 -252.21 -388.02 -465.63 -465.63 -46.05 -20.72 -25.33 -29.93
36 -69.81 -99.73 -149.60 -263.30 -398.93 -490.69 -490.69 -47.11 -21.20 -25.91 -30.62
37 -71.64 -102.34 -153.51 -274.27 -409.36 -515.79 -515.79 -48.13 -21.66 -26.47 -31.28
38 -73.37 -104.81 -157.22 -285.09 -419.25 -540.83 -540.83 -49.10 -22.10 -27.01 -31.92
39 -75.00 -107.14 -160.71 -295.70 -428.55 -565.69 -565.69 -50.03 -22.51 -27.52 -32.52
40 -76.51 -109.31 -163.96 -306.05 -437.22 -590.25 -590.25 -50.90 -22.91 -28.00 -33.09

41 -77.91 -111.30 -166.95 -316.10 -445.21 -614.39 -614.39 -51.72 -23.27 -28.44 -33.61
42 -79.18 -113.12 -169.68 -325.79 -452.48 -638.00 -638.00 -52.46 -23.61 -28.85 -34.10
43 -80.32 -114.75 -172.12 -335.07 -459.00 -660.96 -660.96 -53.14 -23.91 -29.23 -34.54
44 -81.33 -116.18 -174.27 -343.89 -464.72 -683.14 -683.14 -53.74 -24.18 -29.56 -34.93
45 -82.18 -117.40 -176.11 -352.21 -469.62 -704.42 -704.42 -54.26 -24.42 -29.85 -35.27
46 -82.89 -118.42 -177.62 -359.98 -473.66 -724.71 -724.71 -54.70 -24.62 -30.09 -35.56
47 -83.45 -119.21 -178.81 -367.17 -476.84 -743.87 -743.87 -55.05 -24.77 -30.28 -35.78
48 -83.85 -119.78 -179.67 -373.72 -479.13 -761.81 -761.81 -55.30 -24.89 -30.42 -35.95
49 -84.09 -120.13 -180.19 -379.61 -480.52 -778.44 -778.44 -55.46 -24.95 -30.50 -36.05
50 -84.33 -120.48 -180.71 -385.52 -481.90 -795.14 -795.14 -55.61 -25.02 -30.59 -36.15

51 -84.58 -120.82 -181.23 -391.47 -483.29 -811.93 -811.93 -55.77 -25.09 -30.67 -36.25
52 -84.82 -121.17 -181.75 -397.44 -484.68 -828.80 -828.80 -55.92 -25.16 -30.76 -36.35
53 -85.06 -121.52 -182.28 -403.44 -486.07 -845.76 -845.76 -56.08 -25.23 -30.84 -36.45
54 -85.30 -121.86 -182.80 -409.46 -487.45 -862.79 -862.79 -56.23 -25.30 -30.93 -36.55
55 -85.55 -122.21 -183.32 -415.52 -488.84 -879.92 -879.92 -56.39 -25.37 -31.01 -36.65</pre><hr />

Code:[/color]<hr /><pre> RANGED DAMAGE, BY LEVEL AND RANK
Level Undrlng Minion Lieuten Boss Elite B ArchVil G Monst Pets L1Hench L2Hench L3Hench
1 -2.83 -4.05 -6.07 -5.83 -5.83 -8.75 -8.75 -9.60 -8.70 -8.90 -9.10
2 -3.39 -4.85 -7.27 -7.18 -7.18 -10.76 -10.76 -10.28 -9.27 -9.49 -9.72
3 -4.03 -5.76 -8.63 -8.75 -8.75 -13.12 -13.12 -10.97 -9.78 -10.04 -10.31
4 -4.75 -6.78 -10.17 -10.58 -10.58 -15.87 -15.87 -11.68 -10.29 -10.60 -10.91
5 -5.55 -7.93 -11.90 -12.69 -12.69 -19.04 -19.04 -12.41 -10.81 -11.17 -11.52
6 -6.46 -9.22 -13.84 -15.13 -15.13 -22.69 -22.69 -13.13 -11.24 -11.66 -12.08
7 -7.46 -10.66 -15.99 -17.91 -17.91 -26.87 -26.87 -13.80 -11.46 -11.98 -12.50
8 -8.58 -12.26 -18.39 -21.09 -21.09 -31.63 -31.63 -14.49 -11.65 -12.28 -12.91
9 -9.82 -14.03 -21.04 -24.68 -24.68 -37.03 -37.03 -15.18 -11.80 -12.55 -13.30
10 -10.65 -15.21 -22.81 -27.37 -27.37 -41.06 -41.06 -15.87 -11.90 -12.78 -13.66

11 -11.52 -16.45 -24.68 -30.28 -30.28 -45.41 -45.41 -16.57 -11.96 -12.98 -14.01
12 -12.43 -17.76 -26.64 -33.39 -33.39 -50.09 -50.09 -17.26 -11.97 -13.14 -14.32
13 -13.39 -19.13 -28.70 -36.74 -36.74 -55.10 -55.10 -17.96 -11.92 -13.26 -14.61
14 -14.40 -20.57 -30.85 -40.31 -40.31 -60.46 -60.46 -18.66 -11.82 -13.34 -14.86
15 -15.44 -22.06 -33.09 -44.11 -44.11 -66.17 -66.17 -19.35 -11.67 -13.37 -15.08
16 -16.52 -23.61 -35.41 -47.21 -47.21 -70.82 -70.82 -20.04 -11.45 -13.36 -15.27
17 -17.65 -25.21 -37.82 -50.42 -50.42 -75.64 -75.64 -20.72 -11.17 -13.29 -15.41
18 -18.81 -26.87 -40.31 -53.74 -53.74 -80.61 -80.61 -21.39 -10.83 -13.17 -15.52
19 -20.00 -28.58 -42.87 -57.16 -57.16 -85.73 -85.73 -22.06 -10.42 -13.00 -15.59
20 -21.23 -30.33 -45.50 -60.66 -60.66 -90.99 -90.99 -22.71 -9.94 -12.77 -15.61

21 -22.49 -32.13 -48.19 -65.54 -67.46 -100.23 -100.23 -23.65 -10.35 -13.30 -16.26
22 -23.77 -33.96 -50.93 -70.63 -75.38 -110.02 -110.02 -24.59 -10.76 -13.83 -16.91
23 -25.07 -35.82 -53.73 -75.94 -87.40 -120.35 -120.35 -25.54 -11.18 -14.37 -17.56
24 -26.40 -37.71 -56.56 -81.45 -100.30 -131.22 -131.22 -26.50 -11.60 -14.91 -18.22
25 -27.73 -39.62 -59.42 -87.15 -114.09 -142.62 -142.62 -27.47 -12.02 -15.45 -18.88
26 -29.08 -41.54 -62.31 -93.04 -128.76 -154.52 -154.52 -28.43 -12.44 -15.99 -19.55
27 -30.43 -43.46 -65.20 -99.10 -144.30 -166.90 -166.90 -29.40 -12.86 -16.54 -20.21
28 -31.77 -45.39 -68.09 -105.31 -160.69 -179.75 -179.75 -30.37 -13.29 -17.08 -20.88
29 -33.12 -47.31 -70.97 -111.65 -177.89 -193.03 -193.03 -31.33 -13.71 -17.62 -21.54
30 -34.45 -49.21 -73.82 -118.11 -195.87 -206.69 -206.69 -32.28 -14.12 -18.16 -22.19

31 -35.76 -51.09 -76.64 -124.66 -204.37 -220.71 -220.71 -33.22 -14.54 -18.69 -22.84
32 -37.06 -52.94 -79.41 -131.29 -211.75 -235.04 -235.04 -34.16 -14.94 -19.21 -23.48
33 -38.32 -54.74 -82.12 -137.96 -218.98 -249.63 -249.63 -35.07 -15.34 -19.73 -24.11
34 -39.55 -56.50 -84.75 -144.65 -226.01 -264.43 -264.43 -35.97 -15.74 -20.23 -24.73
35 -40.74 -58.20 -87.31 -151.33 -232.81 -279.38 -279.38 -36.84 -16.12 -20.72 -25.33
36 -41.89 -59.84 -89.76 -157.98 -239.36 -294.41 -294.41 -37.69 -16.49 -21.20 -25.91
37 -42.98 -61.40 -92.11 -164.56 -245.62 -309.47 -309.47 -38.50 -16.84 -21.66 -26.47
38 -44.02 -62.89 -94.33 -171.05 -251.55 -324.50 -324.50 -39.28 -17.19 -22.10 -27.01
39 -45.00 -64.28 -96.42 -177.42 -257.13 -339.41 -339.41 -40.02 -17.51 -22.51 -27.52
40 -45.91 -65.58 -98.37 -183.63 -262.33 -354.15 -354.15 -40.72 -17.82 -22.91 -28.00

41 -46.75 -66.78 -100.17 -189.66 -267.13 -368.64 -368.64 -41.37 -18.10 -23.27 -28.44
42 -47.51 -67.87 -101.81 -195.47 -271.49 -382.80 -382.80 -41.97 -18.36 -23.61 -28.85
43 -48.19 -68.85 -103.27 -201.04 -275.40 -396.57 -396.57 -42.51 -18.60 -23.91 -29.23
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46 -49.73 -71.05 -106.57 -215.99 -284.20 -434.82 -434.82 -43.76 -19.15 -24.62 -30.09
47 -50.07 -71.53 -107.29 -220.30 -286.10 -446.32 -446.32 -44.04 -19.27 -24.77 -30.28
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50 -50.60 -72.29 -108.43 -231.31 -289.14 -477.08 -477.08 -44.49 -19.46 -25.02 -30.59

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52 -50.89 -72.70 -109.05 -238.46 -290.81 -497.28 -497.28 -44.74 -19.57 -25.16 -30.76
53 -51.04 -72.91 -109.37 -242.06 -291.64 -507.45 -507.45 -44.86 -19.63 -25.23 -30.84
54 -51.18 -73.12 -109.68 -245.68 -292.47 -517.68 -517.68 -44.98 -19.68 -25.30 -30.93
55 -51.33 -73.33 -109.99 -249.31 -293.31 -527.95 -527.95 -45.11 -19.73 -25.37 -31.01</pre><hr />

Blueeyed · 02-15-2006 12:28 PM

24 Warshade vs. Green Ink Man
Shadow Bolt : 12.41
Shadow Blast : 33.95
Dark Nova Bolt : 34.58
Dark Nova Blast : 57.64

iakona_NA · 02-15-2006 01:09 PM

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24 Warshade vs. Green Ink Man
Shadow Bolt : 12.41
Shadow Blast : 33.95
Dark Nova Bolt : 34.58
Dark Nova Blast : 57.64

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Assuming these numbers are correct, that means the bolt powers both use a damage scalar of 0.6 [ 12.41 / 20.71 = 0.6 = (34.58 / 1.45) / 39.76 ], while shadow blast uses 1.64 [ 33.95 / 20.71 ], and nova blast uses 1.0 [ (57.64 / 1.45) / 39.76 ]. This makes me believe that the shapeshift damage tables are probably accurate.

Stupid_Fanboy · 02-15-2006 01:26 PM

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could you explain why you added these modifiers rather than simply listing the brawl damage for each at at each level.

also, could you explain why you differentiate between range and melee charts because i see it as adding an unnecessary level of complexity.

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*cough*

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