Consolidated Blaster Issues Thread


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Your Elec/Elec suggestions are good although animation changes are probably impossible as are actual changes to the powersets (no swapping out Thunder Clap for something electric and useful).

As such, increasing Charged Bolts BI substantially plus extending the range to equal Lightning Bolt can suffice to bring it up to par vs the other 1st powers.

End drain should be useful in more situations instead of only one or two after you have both SC and Power Sink. I suggest a 3x increase in base end drain for all powers except SC and PS. Only .5x increase for them. -Recovery to all as you suggest, although it might be simpler to make it 1 sec/5 end drained or something like that.

After seeing Stalkers own my teammates in Warburg, and being owned many times from the stun/disorient/sleep side effects of other powersets, unmodified end drain in PvP doesn't seem unreasonable to me but 60% would probably make it possible to use end drain as a tactic in PvP, assuming the 3x increases discussed above.

I never took Voltaic Sentinal - it was always horrible. The best idea I've heard is to make it only fire on your target. If you don't have a target, it doesn't fire. Sort of like a capacitor with 10 shots in it.

Good work.

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the -recovery just makes so much sense, why didn;t they make it like that in the first place? With even 1 second of -recovery all a guys toggles start working against him, which increases overall end drain without having to significantly increase it


 

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/fire already has hot feet for that. I prefer hot feet to blazing aura, so my preference would be to ditch blazing aura and replace it with something else.

I doubt this is possible, but I wish there was a power which could grant a limited form of mez protection. One where toggles do not drop, but the other effects work. Perhaps it would also allow for the mez to be reduced in duration. It drives me insane retoggling all the time. That way if held, you still couldn't move or attack, but at least you would not have to retoggle all the time. Would be useful for all squishies I think without being true mez protection.


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So I saw the suggestion to make energy knockdown instead of knockback and wanted to throw my hat into the ring.

I vote that this should not change. Energy torrent with it's high chance to knockback is really fantastic for keeping stray bosses at bay. I depend on it heavily as a means of aggro control.


 

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I don't think power tweeks are going to do it for Electric, though cutting back the animation time on some of the attacks a bit is in order. Sometimes you just need to replace instead of fix.

Move Short Ciruit, Tesla Cage and Voltaic Sentinal all to the Electric Manipulation set. Those powers belong there and remove some of the melee attacks to make room for them.

Replace those powers with Shocking Bolt, Static Discharge, and add an addition single target moderate to heavy single target 80' ranged attack to round out the attack set.


 

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Simple fix for /fire.

Remove BA. Move Hot Feet to 20, so it's available for PVP. Put Greater Fire Sword at 38.

This simple change makes the set look a lot better, and not nearly as gimp IMO. Would it be the best secondary? No, but it wouldn't be nearly as bad as it is now.

If you want to get really picky, replace combustion with a high damage ST attack (similar to BS, Cremate from the Brutes would be nice). I would actually leave Burn in the set. It's fear component could actually be usefull for blasters. Then the set would really live up to the Fire name. All damage, both AOE and ST.


 

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/fire already has hot feet for that. I prefer hot feet to blazing aura, so my preference would be to ditch blazing aura and replace it with something else.

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I like Arcana's suggestion, if only because Hot Feet is a tier-9 power right now. If Combustion and BA were pulled and HF was dropped down to the 20-ish area with another power (mez protection or group immobilize or something else) thrown in, it would be a great improvement on the /fire secondary. But that's just my humble opinion.


 

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word. The fire manip would be more fun with those changes.


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not up to reading thru all the pages of ideas....but I am betting this has been brought up before.....

Archery: yeah I know the damage potential isnt as high as other blaster types (a shortened activation time would be nice to compensate), but what I really want for my Archer is those pesky Trick Arrows....ok, the Devices does the same thing, but to me they dont fit the IDEA of an Archer and in most cases the target has to be relatively close.....

granted, can get Trick Arrow/Archery from Defenderbut its not the same thing....IMO Devices would work just as well for Defenders as Trick Arrows, if not better

so let me have my Archery/Trick Arrow BLASTER, and give Defenders those pesky Devices


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Bug:

Ice Manipulation - Ice Sword

-After activating the power and it does off and does it's damage (Damage numbers show up above toons on screen and in the combat log...), there is a 2-3 second delay before you can activate another power. With the fast attack times of all the Ice Blast powers this is very noticeable and annoying.

Thanks,


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Idea:

If the concept of a blaster is to do damage, then they should be fantastic at doing damage. What does this mean? It means that blaster primaries have some give and take in terms of damage. Fire/AR are great at AoE damage, while Ice/Energy are more single target. I say that as a blaster we shouldn't have to decide what kind of damage we do. Every blaster primary should be absolutely fantastic at ever kind of attack. They should all have superior single target/AoE/ranged/melee damage attacks. The balancing act is the blasters lack of defense/mez prot/high HP/good controls...and thats already been taken care of.


 

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bumping this up so that we can look at this along with the suggestions in Pilcrows thread.


 

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I still like my quick and dirty fixes of bumping 20' attacks to 50' range, reducing the recharge of the ranged singles in Sonic/, Energy/, Ice/, and Elec/, by 33.3% (One SO's worth), and buffing these sets' aoe's a little (no more than 1-2 BI total for both non-nuke aoe's combined), and reducing Nuke timers from 6 minutes to 4.

Assault Rifle just needs the recharge buff on its singles, imho.

And for the secondaries, if we did something as simple as taking out the taunt auras and replacing them with any other useful power, that'd sure be a good start.

And approximately one DO's worth of damage in Targeting Drone would be good, if you could slot for it. It'd start at 16.66%, but you could slot it up to about an SO's worth.

As for /Fire, well, I'm sure the devs can figure it out for themselves, lots of people have posted very good suggestions.


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Tomorrow, it'll have been six weeks since _Castle_ posted on the Blaster Board.

To date, we've had no update on these issues. Defenders got a statement that their issues were taking "longer than expected" a little less than six weeks after _Castle_ said he'd be looking into them.


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Would this have been so hard?

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Castle:

Hey, I know you're busy, but I wanted to check in. It's been about 6 weeks with no update on where the Blaster Issues stand. I know when you were having trouble getting to the Defender Issues promptly you posted to let Defenders know that even though there wasn't anything to report, you were still working on it.

Could you take a moment to post to the Blaster Issues thread (here's a linky) and let us know what's going on, even if the only thing to report is "nothing to report"?

Thanks,

Circuit_Boy

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Or did you PM him and get no response?


 

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Pilcrow:

It is inappropriate to use the quotation function to put words into someone's mouth that they didn't say.

Furthermore, I don't know why you have a problem with what I posted. It was just a statement of fact, no opinion ventured.


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I have to agree. _Castle_ did say he's taking the lists we made and looking at them. It would be nice to get some kind of an update.

I sent him a PM.


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Pilcrow:

It is inappropriate to use the quotation function to put words into someone's mouth that they didn't say.

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I did not use the quote feature to "put words into your mouth". The post made it clear that you had not used such an a approach and that I was suggesting that perhaps you should have.

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Furthermore, I don't know why you have a problem with what I posted. It was just a statement of fact, no opinion ventured.

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I also did not say that I had a problem with your post explicity. I simply asked if ti would have been hard to send castle a friendly PM. Yet, you very easily caught the inference I made that you, perhaps, were being a bit unfair to the devs.

Just as I was able to catch your inference that the devs aren't treating blasters fairly as compared to other ATs.

Bad form to pretend you don't understand subtext in a post where you called out mine.


 

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Pilcrow:

In fact, you did inappropriately use the quotation feature. I do not care whether your post "made it clear that [I] had not used such an a [sic] approach" or that you were "suggesting that perhaps [I] should have". You used the quote feature and signed my name to something I never wrote. That's wrong, no matter what your reasons are. It's misleading to quote something someone has never said. To paraphrase something one of the red names said a long time ago, "[. . .] not a huge fan of your [post] that quotes me as saying something I never said - [. . .] I would have thought you would understand the integrity of an accurate quote [. . .]"

Furthermore, "Would this have been so hard?" is about as explicit as you can get that you had a problem with my post. There was no "inference" at all in it--you were blatant and obvious. You can't even hide behind "thinly veiled". You were overt.

I stated three simple facts and nothing more. Any "subtext" you read into my post came from your own imagination; it is not supported or supportable by the text of my post.

You misread what I wrote, you mischaracterized me and, worse, you subsequently misquoted me to attack a position I never took.


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In fact, you did inappropriately use the quotation feature.

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I do not agree that the use was inappropriate. I used the quote to surround what I felt you should have said within a context that made it clear that the quotes surrounded what I felt you should have said. Here's an article by a Chicago Tribune writer doing the same thing. Here's someone from US News using the same technique. It is not unprecedented, nor is it a misrepresentation of what someone else has said when done within such a context.

Nevertheless, I apologize to you for using quote tag in a way that you feel misrepresents you. It was not my intent to imply that you had written those words (quite the opposite, in fact).

I would suggest to you that, regardless of your intent, your post comes across as a chastisement to the devs for not checking in with a progress report in as timely a manner as they did for Defenders.


 

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I stated three simple facts and nothing more. Any "subtext" you read into my post came from your own imagination; it is not supported or supportable by the text of my post.

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So you're claiming to have posted for no reason at all? Couldn't that be construed as thread bumping?


 

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Pilcrow:

Apology accepted, but...

..."[my] post comes across as a chastisement" to you. This distinction is very important. You interpret my statement of fact to mean something more than what it actually says. This is not my issue; this is your issue. I cannot control how you will interpret something, especially something as neutral as a statement of fact.

I know that we in America have been trained by the media to be always suspicious of someone's "hidden intent", their "secret bias", and so forth. In fact, we've arguably become paranoid about "bias", interpreting bias into even the most basic statements of fact. What we typically fail to recognize is that these "hermeneutics of suspicion" (as Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick labeled them) tell us more about our own particular neuroses than they expose any actual bias.

In short, you were looking for me to chastize "the devs for not checking in with a progress report in as timely a manner as they did for Defenders" and, not surprisingly, you found it, even though I never actually chastized the Developers for anything. You found what you wanted to find.

Electronite:

No, it would not be thread-bumping. I added something of value to the thread. I pointed out three new facts. Thread-bumping would be posting something of no actual value merely to put the post back at the top.


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Electronite:

No, it would not be thread-bumping. I added something of value to the thread. I pointed out three new facts. Thread-bumping would be posting something of no actual value merely to put the post back at the top.

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You added "three simple facts and nothing more," but what makes them a valuable contribution to the thread? Why did you feel they were important enough to specifically mention?


 

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Electronite:

If you think it was "thread-bumping", report it.


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