Consolidated Blaster Issues Thread


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Nah, I'll just continue agreeing with Pilcrow that you were calling the integrity of _Castle_ into question on a public forum.


 

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Electronite:

So you're basically saying you don't want to put your money where your mouth is.

That's fine.

Just so you know, though, when I wish to call _Castle_'s integrity into question on a public forum, I don't pussyfoot around about it (link). I come out and say what I think directly.

Just because neither you nor Pilcrow are able to distinguish facts from opinions does not make either of your interpretations valid. It means neither of you are able to determine fact from opinion and that both of you suffer from the paranoid belief that the presentation of facts is indicative of a hidden agenda.


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Electronite:

So you're basically saying you don't want to put your money where your mouth is.

That's fine.

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LOL! What I'm basically doing is the same thing you're doing: making an inference. Please find me a quote explicitly saying that I think you were bumping the thread.

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Just so you know, though, when I wish to call _Castle_'s integrity into question on a public forum, I don't pussyfoot around about it (link). I come out and say what I think directly.

Just because neither you nor Pilcrow are able to distinguish facts from opinions does not make either of your interpretations valid. It means neither of you are able to determine fact from opinion and that both of you suffer from the paranoid belief that the presentation of facts is indicative of a hidden agenda.

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So you've a history of calling out _Castle_, and boldly admit to such, but you take exception to someone making such an inference elsewhere when you provide no alternative motive for posting your statements.

Unfortunately for you, it's not a matter of distinguishing facts from opinions, it's the matter of why you felt it necessary to post those facts. You've not only provided no reason for why you posted what you did, you adamantly refuse to clarify your motive when asked. If the reason were innocent, why haven't you said what it is?

My question remains: If you actually posted for no reason whatsoever, could that be construed as bumping the thread? Naturally by now I don't expect an answer to this question -- at least not from you; I just want to note that you're still indignantly tap dancing around it.


 

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I'm the only one who knows why I post what I post. You do not. I choose not to reveal my motivations--if any--and that's my prerogative. Any assumptions you wish to make about my motivations are merely that--assumptions. My motivations for posting--if any--are not relevant to the fact that these issues have gone unaddressed for six weeks now.

Furthermore, I already answered that question, but I'll answer it again: if you think it's thread-bumping, then report it.

Otherwise, move on.


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I answered that question already, but I'll answer it again: if you think it's thread-bumping, then report it.

Otherwise, move on.

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Or shuffle off to Buffalo, as it were...


 

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I forgot all about this thread... so I guess I'll post what I've posted before here

Assualt Rifle:
It either needs a damage increase, an unresisted component, or aim. I've love to see all 3 but I doubt that'll happen.

Electrical Blast:
End drain needs a rework.
Short Circut needs it's base end drain raised or needs to have it's damage, recharge, and end cost rescaled.
Voltaic Sentinel needs to either be turned into a Power Burst/Blaze/Bitter Ice Blast/Shout clone or turned into some type of Sapper attack.

Energy Blast:
I always looked at Energy as the base line to which other sets were measured.
About the only thing I'd change are the longer rooting animations but we all know the animations are here to stay.

Fire Blast:
I now consider this set to be the base line that other sets are compared to.
Rain of Fire needs a status effect other than DoT. Possibly -spd?

Ice Blast:
The king of PvP primaries.
The animation of Bitter Freeze Ray needs to be reduced or give it higher damage to compensate.
Blizzard... 1 of my 2 complaints is getting fixed with the ability to buff it. It still ends if you faceplant before it finishes.

Archery:
I don't know where to begin other than this set should have never been created.
Same fix as Assualt Rifle... a damage increase or an unresisted component.

Sonic Blast:
Similar to energy with long rooting animations which we know are here to stay.


Devices
Taser needs a rework. A chance for a Mag4 boss Stun or a base -25 End drain could be added. In PvP it should drop 1 toggle 100% of the time.
Cloaking Device was fine before all of the changes to stealth. It needs it's -Perception raised, end cost and recharge lowered.
Time Bomb should be targetable and destroyable.
Auto Turret need to have a slug and flame thrower attack added. When it's destroyed it should have a Trip Mineish explosion.

Electricity Manipulation
I would change only one thing
Make Lighting Field's -End Auto hit. It's damage should still require a ToHit check (ala HotFeet).

Energy Manipulation
Stun should get whatever new animation that it shares with Claws.

Fire Manipulation
I'd make it look like this...

Ring of Fire
Fire Sword
Build Up
HotFeet (Reduce it's End Cost)
Consume
Burning Touch (Melee Hold with DoT)
Fire Sword Circle
Fire Imp (Pilcrow's Idea)
Greater Fire Sword

Ice Manipulation
Mine...

Frozen Fists
Ice Sword
Build Up
Chilling Embrace
Energy Absorption Autohit PBAoE +Recovery, Foe -Spd, -Rech
Ice Patch (make it ranged like Pilcrow's idea)
Shiver
Freezing Touch
Greater Ice Sword


Currently roleplaying, badgehunting, and laughing at the PvPers of CoX. lol, PvP.

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In short, you were looking for me to chastize "the devs for not checking in with a progress report in as timely a manner as they did for Defenders" and, not surprisingly, you found it, even though I never actually chastized the Developers for anything. You found what you wanted to find.

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I did not seek those facts, nor was I seeking posts from you waiting for you to chastise the devs.

You posted those facts, in a public forum, hoping that someone would read them (as I did). There's a reason you did that. Failing to explain your reasoning, you leave it to the reader to infer it.

If I made the wrong inference, that's on me. That I would make an inference doesn't demonstrate paranoia on my part. You had a motive, or you would have spent that time drinking pina colodas.

Perhaps you'll share that motive with us. But claiming to have no motive is not a rational claim.


 

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Again, you found what you wanted to find, Pilcrow.

You are not telepathic. You can infer anything you want, and still be quite wrong. It is not my job to correct your inference. It is your job not to infer anything in the first place, unless you like being wrong quite a lot.


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Again, you found what you wanted to find, Pilcrow.

You are not telepathic. You can infer anything you want, and still be quite wrong. It is not my job to correct your inference. It is your job not to infer anything in the first place, unless you like being wrong quite a lot.

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It's your job to prevent inferences. Communicating effectively would prevent incorrect inferences, and that is the sole responsibility of the person posting.


 

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*LOL*

You two are crazy.

It's not my job to prevent inferences. If you don't want to look foolish, don't make inferences in the first place. I cannot prevent crazy people from making crazy assumptions.

I could say "The sky is blue and water is wet", and you could still come along and "infer" that I was attacking _Castle_ for it. There's nothing I could do to prevent you from making that inference, but it'd still be a) wrong, b) crazy, and c) not my fault.

To paraphrase Freud, an analysis frequently tells us more about the anxieties of the analysand than it reveals anything about the analyzed.

I communicated effectively. I stated a few facts without any commentary. I'm sorry you two read more into that than I wrote, but you did. That's not my problem--that's yours.

One of the things we English graduate students are trained to do early on is to read the text--and only the text--first. All interpretations must be supportable from the text itself, not from anything outside that text. It's called "close reading".

So, stop trying to blame me for your imagination. You made the inferences, not me. You are responsible for that, not me. I did not lead you to those inferences. I did not even suggest them. You came to those conclusions on your own. That's your responsibility. Accept it.


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You're wrong. You were either not properly taught how to communicate effectively, or you chose not to learn how to do so.


 

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No, I'm not wrong.

I teach college-level writing for a living.

I know "how to communicate effectively" in writing.


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Sorry, Professor, but teaching someone else how to do something incorrectly doesn't magically make it correct.


 

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Opinion or fact, I wonder.


 

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Electronite:

I knew your response was going to insult my professional capabilities. How childish.

The fact is that I'm a very good instructor, and in this matter, I am correct. I'm sorry, but you are wrong.

You have a reading problem if you believe that it you bear no responsibility for your own assumptions and inferences.

You have a reading problem if you are unable to determine fact from opinion.

These are not my problems. They are yours.

This discussion is at an end. You can have the last word--I won't be responding further.


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Dr. Electronite, please.


 

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No, I'm not wrong.

I teach college-level writing for a living.

I know "how to communicate effectively" in writing.

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Seeing how you manage to alienate people wherever I read your posts...this is very scary to me.


 

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Anyone who has an opinion about anything and expresses it is going to "alienate" some people.

That cannot be helped, and good writers understand that. The goal is not to appease every possible reader.

I learned that a very long time ago.

Furthermore, there are plenty of people who support me and my posts. They aren't always vocal, but I get plenty of supportive PMs and in-game tells.


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Interestly enough Circuit Boy doesn't irritate me. I believe that is because he is up front about his point of view and states it fairly. You do know that he was originally a big defender of the developers? That only their continued failures at public relations and honesty converted him to his current state of distrust.

Personally I have stopped caring about the broken parts of CO[HV] and instead focus on what is working right now and is fun for me. I managed to move past my bitterness about ED, mostly due to the timely release of COV which sucked me in.

To be honest, I see his point about _Castle_. I like that _Castle_ has been an active representative for much of the game but he does have his flaws. He played a big part in the latest EF fiasco, which caused the forums to lose a good contributor (Erratic). He does tend to self identify with Stalkers and he has strong limits on what he can fix.

-Teklord


 

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Back to the original topic...

Wishlist: /elec -- Sleep seems a poor choice of secondary effect for an AT whose primary job is to cause massive damage quickly. Drop Sleep entirely from all Electric powers in favor of a more realistic Stun/Disorient effect or an increase in Endurance drain.


 

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One of the things we English graduate students are trained to do early on is to read the text--and only the text--first. All interpretations must be supportable from the text itself, not from anything outside that text. It's called "close reading".

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Even a close reading of that passage could note that it speaks of Defenders getting something Blasters did not get. That's not my inference, that's right in the text. Nor does close reading divorce itself entirely from context. One would not be going outside a close reading to note that your passage exists in a Blaster Issues thread as opposed to an I love Castle thread, for example. Further, close reading is what you do FIRST, it does not invalidate other methods of interpretation and criticism. Your appeals to autority do not make my interpretation invalid, though It seems clear you hope for people to consider it so.

My interpretation may have been inaccurate (though you won't share your intent so we can't know), but it was not invalid nor was it paranoid, crazy, or demonstrative of an inability to separate opinion from fact.

Further, I see an bit of a double-standard at play here. You chastise me for infering things not directly supportable in your text, but you certainly give yourself enough liberty to paint me as paranoid, unable to determine fact from opinion, and crazy with little to no support for those positions directly in my text.

When people are more interested in villifying others than in discussing an issue directly, I find that behavior both rude and suspect. You say that your motivations are irrelevant, and that facts stand on their own. So, why are your assumptions of my motivations relevant?

If the facts speak, let them speak.

    [*]The six-week "check-in" by _Castle_ to Defenders was an outlier from a dev team that generally "checks-in" in much longer intervals, if at all.[*]During the six weeks in question, Castle has posted in this forum. Further, the thread he posted to was requesting much more than simple bug-fixes, but actual buffs to Blasters. Further, Castle suggested that he will look into implementing some of the notions posted.[*]If past behavior is an indication, the devs are more likely to respond to a number of well worded PMs than to posts on threads that request them to read or post.[*]The devs did much more posting about topics like ED, the global defensive rollback and travel suppression than they did on the Defenders Issues thread. Yet those many posts resulted in little or no change to I5, ED and suppression. Meanwhile, the Defender Issues, Scrapper Issues or other threads that actually yielded a significant number changes in the functionality of the game received little attention in terms of redname posts.[*]The Defender forum and Defender Discussion thread received almost no redname posts in the lead up to I5 and ED, and yet they listed making Defender buffs more relevant one of the key reasons for the I5/ED rollbacks again and again.[/list]


 

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Interestly enough Circuit Boy doesn't irritate me. I believe that is because he is up front about his point of view and states it fairly. You do know that he was originally a big defender of the developers? That only their continued failures at public relations and honesty converted him to his current state of distrust.

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We were ALL that way. In fact, the only blaster who seems to continue to support the devs is Friggin_Tazer, and you'll notice that he almost never posts here.

I'm reserving my judgement on _Castle_ until after I7, but while I've seen no evidence that he's as bad as the rest of the dev team (Geko!) I certainly have seen no actual evidence that he's done anything that they haven't beyond merely talk to us more. Either way, I'll wait until after I7.

As far as CB is concerned, I often agree with him, but there is a pomposity in much of what he writes which detracts from the message. Anyone with real knowledge of clarity in the form of the written word will understand that it's not merely the message, but the way in which it is transmitted.

Finally, Erratic was a blow-hard know-it-all who tended to obfuscate with numbers as often as he would post anything meaningful. I'm just as glad to see him gone.


EDIT - I just realized that I came off sounding like I was takling about someone for whom I actually have a degree of respect in a manner that negates their presence. Sorry, CB.

That being said, however, I find myself in agreement with Electronite's assessment on this particular thread... regardless of how off topic it may be.


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We were ALL that way. In fact, the only blaster who seems to continue to support the devs is Friggin_Tazer,

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Not quite, brother. You forgot about me. But I love ya anyway.


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OMG, let it go already! LOL

Speaking of Electric, though...some type of morbid fascination made me pull SYN'amp off the 50's Shelf and use one of her numerous respecs. I wanted to give her a well-rounded build that could maybe have some fun in PvP when I got bored as well as find a way to make end drain work as well as contribute more hold time to Hami Raids.

So I went with Electric Mastery and made SC 3ED/3Dmg. With Powerboost I can still drain Minions to zero end with SC and Ball Lightning, but they are all pretty much dead by the time I hit them with Static Discharge next. Lt's take the same Chain plus Static Discharge to be almost to Fully drained. Bosses? Why bother?

Bottom line, it's just faster to kill them all now and End drain is kind of a novelty at this point. I guess 2 out of 3 ain't bad, but SYN'amp's going back to being parked in the Hive. I played her for hours today and, though I could pull it off, it just wasn't as fun. In fact, it was pretty disappointing.

Please look at the Primary set and get creative, Devs...