Fix TP Foe to Towers in Siren's!!!
By
AngelsFist,
Posted on: 2005-12-11 17:31 in Everything about PvP
I've never had this happen to me, but try using the /stuck command. Sounds like an opportunity to use it.
yeah /stuck doesnt work...i think its funny as hell, but i still petition anyone who does it to me....friend or foe. Just so its known. I dont get mad so to say, just think it sucks.
well I agree for the most part except drones should be having tp foe aura protection. i strongly would be against that, because those people who use tp foe into the drones wouldnt have much of a counter. it's always fun to find those lamers who tp people into drones, to tp them into a 8on1 beatdown 
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well I agree for the most part except drones should be having tp foe aura protection. i strongly would be against that, because those people who use tp foe into the drones wouldnt have much of a counter. it's always fun to find those lamers who tp people into drones, to tp them into a 8on1 beatdown
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TP Foe has a limited range, and requires a ToHit check. If you are close enough to the Opposing forces base to be TP Foe'd, it is your own mistake. The drones do not cause debt, so people that do it are not grieving. They are simply trying to cleanse the oppossing forces out of their base.
If that is not suitable, I'm fine with an entire TP Dampening field (Like in the Council and CoT Prisons) being put on the place. Sure, it would be a little bit of a pain for people with Teleport as their main mode of transportation, but they would only have to walk a few feet (Out of the radius of say, the +Perception boost now) to regain their porting abilities.
I like that Dampening field idea... if you've ever been trapped in their, you know that it interrupts all attacks susceptible to interruptions. That would stop the Sniping, the TP Foe-ing, and the Assassin Strikes while in one's base, their "Safe Zone".
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
Thats ok except when one side has a huge advantage, and you cant leave your base without getting ganked. I think it SHOULD be dangerous for you to pin the enemy in their base.
Sadly, some people think winning when there is NO chance of losing is fun. Personally, when Im on a team that CANT lose in PVP, I usually log out and then log back in on the other side. Its more fun to try to beat long odds, than autowin victories. I wish more people shared that idea, it would make PVP a load more fun.
Devs just need to put a hole in the side of the towers so you can walk out.
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Devs just need to put a hole in the side of the towers so you can walk out.
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shhhhhhh!! So far I have found this to be the only effective way to punish my unrulely pet Scrapper when he gets trigger happy. Toss him in the Tower for a few mins to cool his jets and then everything is rosey again.
Not everyone uses the Towers to grief people. I hope the Devs will not remove the ability to port people into the Towers however add a timer on them or something that way people are not just left there to rot.
There aren't many things that I consider "griefing" in a PvP zone, but this is one of them. Reason being is that a player can be locked down FOREVER if they don't have TP or Fly to get out of the tower.
I've done it to friends in the SG with a tower in Steel Canyon on more than one occassion. But catch there is ... they're a friend. As such, they get out after a few chuckles are had and whatnot. In PvP, I can easily see a Stalker put a /Storm Controller in the tower to rot since there ain't much we can do against them...
Should be removed as a targetable location IMHO.
B.
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I had this happen to me for an hour straight by two Stalker's in Siren's on Infinity today. The 3 Towers close to the Hero Safe Zone/Hospital - Villains TP Foe Heroes in there, and there is no way out, outside of a Teleport or death. I had it happen on my /Storm controller, when it had been made clear they could not kill me unless I shut off my Hurricane, yet they still did it.
Anyone who does this... its more grieving than a valid tactic, especially when its known that the Hero can't die in there.
Firstly, Drones need to be given a TP Foe Aura protection. Secondly, those Towers need to not be Reticle targettable.
Fix it - Petition those who do it. They do not want players taken out of their Safe Zones... it is grieving.
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I think the word you're looking for is "griefing".
Grieving is what you do once you've been griefed
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I had this happen to me for an hour straight by two Stalker's in Siren's on Infinity today. The 3 Towers close to the Hero Safe Zone/Hospital - Villains TP Foe Heroes in there, and there is no way out, outside of a Teleport or death. I had it happen on my /Storm controller, when it had been made clear they could not kill me unless I shut off my Hurricane, yet they still did it.
Anyone who does this... its more grieving than a valid tactic, especially when its known that the Hero can't die in there.
Firstly, Drones need to be given a TP Foe Aura protection. Secondly, those Towers need to not be Reticle targettable.
Fix it - Petition those who do it. They do not want players taken out of their Safe Zones... it is grieving.
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I think the word you're looking for is "griefing".
Grieving is what you do once you've been griefed
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Or after you read the "Powers" section of an Issue's patch notes. 
Heroes
Dysmal
Lumynous
Sam Steele
Pluck
Wile
Slagheap
Pressure Wave
Rhiannon Bel
Verified
Stellaric
Syd Mallorn
Villains
Jotunheim Skald
Saer Maen
Jen Corbae
Illuminance
Venator Arawn
Taiga Dryad
Tarranos
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yeah /stuck doesnt work...i think its funny as hell, but i still petition anyone who does it to me....friend or foe. Just so its known. I dont get mad so to say, just think it sucks.
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Vert, you petitioned us?
ooooo...Put me down on those petitions too. I have learned a new extra villainous act. oh yeah.
Sorry it wasn't me this time. Mesk is an evil genius.
I'm going to start petitioning petitions.
The tactic in PvP zones of Tping foes into towers is interesting. I personaly have witnessed this in Sirens Call. I am a villain. Here is the deal....
I have seen fellow villains TP their foes who are camping at their hospital out in the open by their drones (you can always stay inside the lobby to be truly safe) into towers near by, so as to kill their travel (assuming they do not have hold powers themselves) so they cannot retreat back to their drones.
I have seen this done when a hero near their base sees their battle is going badly and runs for mamma (drone) protection.
I have seen it used on Heroes with hold powers to have them enjoy the same issues they force on others. (Oh and you hurricaners? I have seen it used just to keep you from interfering and YOU CAN BE KILLED, by ranged attacks when in or out of them)
Considering that the villain base is a death trap. Heroes wontonly enter into the villain hospital and spawn kill at will. and how they exploit their well fortified base as a safe zone and even use it as a weapon against enemy forces (and the drones kill instantly, Being in a tower relies upon combat still), I cannot see any reason why this tactic of the use of their guard tower should be cried as foul by any player and stated to be greifing or harrassment.
I could see this being the case if there was absolutely no way out. But with the ability to buy TP devices or have friends with TP Fr, or have TP yourself? and they can still fight, till some assistance arrives or they release themselves. This is relatively easily trumped manuver.
Considering it is a PvP issue and as a result, I think anything that can be used in there should be used considering the way the odds are stacked against the villain population.
I find it a very valid tactic for combat purposes and am personaly for it.
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well I agree for the most part except drones should be having tp foe aura protection. i strongly would be against that, because those people who use tp foe into the drones wouldnt have much of a counter. it's always fun to find those lamers who tp people into drones, to tp them into a 8on1 beatdown
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If you're being TP'd into drones, then it's probably because you're too close to someone's base to begin with, Griefer
Meh, not always. If my bounty in Siren's Call keeps running from me (I'm a Brute, obviously), and then they lounge around near the drones, well....
gotta get the bounty someway. Course, I usually TP them to the wall above thier base, with a KO blow, in the hopes they are stunned long enough for me to polish them off.
Shoot, if they dont want to get TP'd, then sit in the lobby.
CuppaJo in the now locked thread on Infinity "The Game is Afoot, and the Hour is Nigh" at 8:34 p.m. CST, 12/13/05:
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TPing someone into a tower IS griefing and you can be actioned for it.
*The More You Know Star Shoots Across the Screen*
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So there is your official word, for all of those that took the stance, "Its a valid tactic until a GM tells me otherwise".
I am happy this day.
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
Hallelujah. We can stop the name calling and accusations and let the devs do their job. That is all I ever asked.
thank you Cuppa for stopping the continual back biting over a silly game mechanic.
What baffles me is that some of you actually believed it WAS valid at all.
Was it arrogance? Lack of common sense? No concept of the obvious? Or just plain old ignorance?
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yeah /stuck doesnt work...i think its funny as hell, but i still petition anyone who does it to me....friend or foe. Just so its known. I dont get mad so to say, just think it sucks.
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Vert, you petitioned us?
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Honestly, no. But i would have. You guys never did it to me, and i wont petition on anothers behalf. But the ones that did do it to me on various occasions i petitioned.
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What baffles me is that some of you actually believed it WAS valid at all.
Was it arrogance? Lack of common sense? No concept of the obvious? Or just plain old ignorance?
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Most people claim tatics are valid because there hasn't been word otherwise.
Currently roleplaying, badgehunting, and laughing at the PvPers of CoX. lol, PvP.
Truedusk - Human Rogue
Yeah, until the devs say otherwise all tactics are valid in pvp.
If we listened to the playerbase on valid tactics there would be none allowed. I have seen everything called ganking, griefing, exploiting, etc by the players. The devs are rational and have the only opinion that matters.
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What baffles me is that some of you actually believed it WAS valid at all.
Was it arrogance? Lack of common sense? No concept of the obvious? Or just plain old ignorance?
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TPing a foe into a tower and killing them, IMO is not griefing. It is using terrain to your advantage.
TPing a foe into a tower and just leaving them there with no way out is griefing, IMO.
Sadly, since the 2nd option exists, the first must be considered invalid as well, because even if you intend to kill your target, somthing could happen where you get DCd and then the other toon is stuck.
Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
Tactics are for those who do not have a big enough hammer. Wisdom is knowing how big your hammer is.
So, it's done by making broad attempts to legitimize the exploiting of obviously broken game mechanics in order to gloss over a lack of coherent PvP ability. Gotcha.
Your lack of common sense and foresight doesn't legitimize anything. You sound like all those that tried to justify the clicky PL method from way back when. Just because Mommy and Daddy didn't spank you when you were bad doesn't give you free reign to beat up on kids in the school yard. That should be a given.
I had this happen to me for an hour straight by two Stalker's in Siren's on Infinity today. The 3 Towers close to the Hero Safe Zone/Hospital - Villains TP Foe Heroes in there, and there is no way out, outside of a Teleport or death. I had it happen on my /Storm controller, when it had been made clear they could not kill me unless I shut off my Hurricane, yet they still did it.
Anyone who does this... its more grieving than a valid tactic, especially when its known that the Hero can't die in there.
Firstly, Drones need to be given a TP Foe Aura protection. Secondly, those Towers need to not be Reticle targettable.
Fix it - Petition those who do it. They do not want players taken out of their Safe Zones... it is grieving.
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.