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So is that a yes or a no.
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Does this mean that City of Heroes will get a face lift
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when [City of Villians] comes out?
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Since there are only so many business hours in the day, you can't really speed things up much even when turning an 8-hour workday into a 10-hour, as that's only a 25% increase. Then you start having to worry even more about employee burnout, too, which will just slow you down again.
[/ QUOTE ]Heh. That reminds me of an occurrence (or it could be a local UL) here in Austin during the dot.com boom, when a programmer who had been a member of the "century club" (100+ hour work week) continuiously for over a year, was found running around the company's parking lot...nude. Yes, burnout can be an ugly thing.
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How exactly would heroes be able to raid villains' bases if they were completely separate games? This is an established feature and I've seen nothing to suggest that you could create heroes in CoV. Maybe you can, I dunno.
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Give them a few more bananas and they will be fine...
A graphic update might require an entire engin overhaul, depending on how this game was programmed....
either way...your looking at a HUGE download... and possibly a mandatory memory upgrade...
we will see... programming this is definatly gonan be interesting.....
I see signs of construction in certin areas of the city already tho *near subgenetics in SC* so who knows..maybe they are already doing a graphic overhaul...
which brings up another question.... how long b4 someone begins complaining about the massive download they gotta do if and when the updates are released.......im on 56 k dialup so.... ill go first :P
GEEZE !!! 4 GB DOWNLOAD?!?!?!?! ... when will this be done...davali 07?...
oh great..now you guys got me worried....
Everybodys worried bout the graphics i was looking at the gamespy review or whatever you call for COV and it sayd theyre gona charge for it seperately now thats sort of understandable since its completely stand alone and you dont need city of heroes to play it but what if you already have city of heroes and want to play city of villians, I mean id love to play both but im not paying 30 dollars a month out of my paycheck just so i could have a villian as well as a hero.
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So City of Villians is going to have shinier graphics. Does this mean that City of Heroes will get a face lift when it comes out?
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Not right away. A lot of the art has to be redone to take advantage of the new features, and we only have so many monkeys here. I mean artists! 
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I know the feeling. I only have a small group of monkeys here working for me as well. Wonder if we can time share these monkeys and maximize our productivity? 
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Instead of crying DOOOOOOOM, if your computer is so ancient-primitive that it can't produce, for example, light bloom, just click the option to turn off the extra graphic doodads like, for example, light bloom.
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Uhm.. CoH and CoV will be completely different games. CoV will not be a patch on CoH. It'll be completely seperate.
So if you have CoH installed, then you'll also have to install CoV into it's own dir. They won't share any files on your computer. A patch for CoH will not work on CoV and vice versa.
2 Completely seperate games.
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You are right, but if you have both games they will "interact with each other" Thats the best way I can some it up. I believe there is an offical post on how that will work floating around somewhere.
With all due respect to all you folks out there with top of th eline computers, I am currently unable to play the game with the graphics turned all the way up. I have a P3, 3Ghz, 1GB RAM, and a Geforce FX5200 graphics card. I "can" turn all the settings up, and the game looks beautiful, but then it's a slideshow. Perhaps optimize the game a bit more so it runs more smoothly so we can play it on the high setting, before upping the graphics load even more?
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With all due respect to all you folks out there with top of th eline computers, I am currently unable to play the game with the graphics turned all the way up. I have a P3, 3Ghz, 1GB RAM, and a Geforce FX5200 graphics card. I "can" turn all the settings up, and the game looks beautiful, but then it's a slideshow. Perhaps optimize the game a bit more so it runs more smoothly so we can play it on the high setting, before upping the graphics load even more?
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Swap out the fx 5200 to anything nonbudget and you'll be good to go =)
ok dude, I got a, 2200 AMD (1.8ghz) 512MB, and a.. get ready for this.. Geforce 4 TI 4600, 128mb. one of the first 128mb cards, computer is going on 3 years now and I'll tell ya, I got everything on COH maxed plus running at 1024x768 and it looks great and runs fine. Hell, I even play HL2 and it runs fine.. not the GREATEST... lol but it runs.
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ok dude, I got a, 2200 AMD (1.8ghz) 512MB, and a.. get ready for this.. Geforce 4 TI 4600, 128mb. one of the first 128mb cards, computer is going on 3 years now and I'll tell ya, I got everything on COH maxed plus running at 1024x768 and it looks great and runs fine. Hell, I even play HL2 and it runs fine.. not the GREATEST... lol but it runs.
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Geforce TI are a great series of cards, truth be told you don't need a high end cpu or memory to play this game, all those special fx are pretty much handeled by your graphics card. Yesterdays top of the line is better then todays budget, and often at comparable prices.
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Not right away. A lot of the art has to be redone to take advantage of the new features, and we only have so many monkeys here. I mean artists!
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Does this include:
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We saw one villain attempt to steal a valuable crown from a bank. Once he enters the mission zone, a cool cutscene shows off some of the key objects in the level. This helps to draw attention to the things the player will have to interact with. After defeating the guards, our vile villain blows the doors of the vault, highlighting some of the destructible objects in the new game.
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I've never been a fan of cut-scenes, but this made it sound cool. Damaging objects too, after CoV, or before?
I would hope the new graphics hit CoH with CoV (like bloom lighting, reflective armor, ect). The cutscenes do sound great but I don't imagine they are in every single mission so I could be patient enough to see them added to CoH sometime after CoV...not too long.
I mean cutscenes, graphic boosts, power effects boosts, bases woudl be enough for me to buy CoV just as an expansion. I"m going to be rather upset if I buy CoV and the only boost I see right away in CoV are bases. I honestly think from a customer satisfaction point it would be best to take some workers off of i6 (for instance) and toss them onto CoH's CoV upgrades. After all many people have no interest in playing a villian but Cryptic still wants them to buy CoV. Thats fine, you guys deserve the money,j ust give us heroes a reason to buy that naught looking box. =p
Ravenstorm is watching this post RIGHT NOW!!! 
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Not right away. A lot of the art has to be redone to take advantage of the new features, and we only have so many monkeys here. I mean artists!
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I'd like to volenteer my services. I worked on a HL mod for quite a while and will work for fairly cheap! I'm a little rusty but I make a MEAN crate!
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It's not cloak and dagger. It's just like explained above: they will when they have time.
Programming speed is a function of manhours. Either they need more (wo)men or they need more hours in order to do more things quicker.
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You gotta watch out for those (wo)men...
Alway check the adams apple folks...
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What I'm concerned about when it comes to the upgraded graphics is the hardware side of it. Are they going to be upgraded in such a way that some players may be forced to upgrade their video cards to compensate? Or will they upgrade them in such a way that the engine simply won't try to display the new "spit and polish" if the card can't handle it?
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I wanna be a monkey!!!
Nah, on second thought, I'd hate having it be my job
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I kinda feel the same way. Secondly, I kind of like stumbling around in the dark figuring things out for myself. If I got a job doing it, I'd have someone to tell me how to do it and ruin half of the fun. Of course, if I got an actual job doing it, I'd probably be so far in over my head that I'd have to grow gills. hehehe.
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What I'm concerned about when it comes to the upgraded graphics is the hardware side of it. Are they going to be upgraded in such a way that some players may be forced to upgrade their video cards to compensate? Or will they upgrade them in such a way that the engine simply won't try to display the new "spit and polish" if the card can't handle it?
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IMHO, the art in the game is one of the best things about CoH. It is not too 'shiny' or 'real' looking - and it shouldn't be.
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So, some of the cement-block sculpture in Skyway should look like a bunch of legos, then?
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