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Defense wise all I can tell you informational wise is Devouring Earth, Malta, Longbow Nullifiers and certain Nemesis mobs debuff my defenses and are an issue.
If someone who into resistances can answer that part It might help you out a bit.
Examples
The Nemesis Jaejer require movement because of that cloud they drop. If you move your okay.
Longbow Nullifier requires you to trick them to dropping that AOE debuff and then moving to your fighting point or again be able to move and fight. Or eat a purple to counter that debuff.
Malta you need to counter the debuffs with purple inspirations.
DE are a bit of both.. AOE attacks and others..
Any missions with these mobs I drop settings down to 2 or 3 and 6 or 7. Usually 2/6 for less aggravations.
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It would make sense that this company should maybe invest in a few Apple products and test stuff out before they create software for the Mac that particularly does not work and test this stuff before you put it out for the Mac for the general public. I get the whole beta testing thing, but you shouldn't expect the Mac community to be alpha testers. Its like tossing things against the wall to see what sticks type of testing.
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I can't get into VIP also
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Quote:Bah, game locks up when I try to buy it. * Found the Answer, It's a Mac issue *Originally Posted by Obscure Blade
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Quote:You can Cmd + return to get into window mode on mac. Ahh just looked at that program, misunderstood. That would be nice if it ran on mac. I guess you could with wine..Originally Posted by Crysys
Ah, Windows only. I'm on a Mac so that method won't work.
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Its a Traps build search the forum for a defense cap trap build. It will probably be robot traps. Swap out robots and put in your pets.
Or just do a search for my name I posted in many of the defense cap build threads here in the past. You will then find several builds to choose from.
Since I do not know if Mercs offer any sort of defense bonuses like the Protector Robot ( gives out a bubble for 7.5% defense increase which can be enhanced ) your will need to use something along the lines of what I do and that is build my robot traps to be capped without the aid of that bubble.
This should be the build. I copied and pasted from a message I sent someone. So lets see if it works.
As I mentioned import it and swap robots for Mercs and look at the numbers. Then tweak what you want.
Layout is odd but it should still work
Don't take Detonator, I just tried it out and placed a damage SO in it and seen no change in damage. I placed a recharge SO and it seemed a bit faster on recharge just by looking at the stats and just eyeballing it. You can't enhance the damage only the recharge I think. So unless you need it for a set bonus pick something else. Even with an IO or SO recharge it was still to long to find of value to blow up a pet and then resummon and rebuff that pet. And the damage also depends on the pet type. I was blowing up my Tier 3 pet and was getting 330 to 350 damage wise.
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Quote:How did you get to level 50 so fast ?Originally Posted by Hasael
I am pretty new to this game. Have a lvl 50 Ill/Rad 'troller and both VEATs in the high 20's.
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Thanks for the responses. I went with what you guys posted and read, was good enough for me..
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Quote:So you know if the Mac has an intel processor you can use bootcamp to dual boot the mac into windows. All you really need is the license key off that dead HP computer for windows. The bootcamp does a sort of partition magic and you can select how big you want your windows side to be.Originally Posted by Wassabi
It's not my fault! My HP died after 2 years (POS)... So to save money I just use the wife's Mac... Since I purchased the Mac version and all ... For the in-game perks. And after buying a new house..., and I mean just now; close tomorrow morning, my budget is curtailed for a while buying the things necessary around the home; new flat screen 55"-60" and the surround sound to go with it... And then the pool.
Until all that... I suffer on a Mac.
I feel your wife's pain.
I do computer forensics and our office uses mac a lot. I run my tools in a VM on the mac side as well. But not all tools work in a VM for licensing issues so I need windows from time to time as well.
which brings me to my next option. Stay on the mac side and use VMware Fusion to install a version of windows on your mac side in a VM session. That is what I do to use MIDs. Just remember to save your builds out side the VM. The VM can get corrupted from time to time and I did loose some of my builds because I had to revert to a previous snap shot.
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Quote:Again your determining what I like or not. It does not matter what you like or not as it relates to my account. Just like me saying you soloed a TF but it took you forever and you had to do it a specific way to make it work, otherwise it would fail. Mind you I know you had to fail a bunch of times before you figured out how to do it properly. But regardless it took you too long, thus its gimped.Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer
A 1 pet MM is gimped whether you like it or not and killing things slowly isn't what I would call farming.
Slowly is subjective as I mentioned about you completing a TF that a team would take 1/2 the time to complete. But again I have been on a team of 8 that could not complete those task forces as well. So in those perspectives your toon kicks butt when 8 players couldn't do it.
If I can clear out any reasonable mission set to 3/8 with no deaths or even minimal deaths ( stuff does happen sometimes ) by pulling 2 groups at a time or obtaining the ticket cap in AE mission, I think I completed the task. -
Quote:Again your missing the point. Your talking about your SS fire when we are discussing blasters.Originally Posted by Pureshadow2
If your pet dies fast, how are you proving your point? My 8 yr brother probably cant solo 2/4, does that make me look better if i say that?
A ss/fire brute can hit 50 and probably do 4/8 in 4-5 mins with SO's. So if it takes any archtype longer wouldnt that be gimp?
When we talk about best farmer we mean fastest, hardest setting, solo/power leveling people. Powerleveling people for money is where vengeance comes in, you have less inspirations and harder mobs. No one cares if you want to spend 30mins in a 1/8 ae mission and call it farming. Go do the rikti pylon challenge with your one pet mastermind.
My point is if DP MM is the best farmer because of vengeance, I disagree.
As for the MM comment it was made for a comparison issue and I further cleared it up to show you how wrong you can be about toons or at least thinking what might a viable toon. At level 50 I am doing 3/8 crey fire farm with him. Again its not your SS Fire brute speed. But for me it wasn't made to farm anyways. I use the farm as a gauge to test the toons durability. But the toon is no worse off then the Tank or Brute that is not defense capped. Or the energy blaster that charges in for the Nova Blast and then wonders why he died from the retaliation attacks.
Again that point was to say that best has many variables. I don't think that best is fastest if your limited to being the fastest in just one thing and in just one place and on top of that you need certain things to take place ( EG a player to die ) for all that stuff to work.
To me the best is anything that can meet the ends in a reasonable amount of time for you, without having outside assistance and being able to accomplish this under many different circumstances.
Vengeance is a good power and it can turn the tides sometimes. But farming wise its a kludge and a one trick pony. I don't think relying on something like is your best choice. -
Quote:Coming from a player like myself I'm always in a panic ( that might not be the best choice of wording ) that I might sell something off that I might want for another toon I am considering making because I am not such a big market player persay like yourself. So I save salvage for a rainy day. EG when ceramic armor is selling for 50k when it used to be 111 a week ago. To me I feel that is my sort of luck. The minute I sell it I will need it back and what I sold for 1 INF now I need to pay 10 million for. Sadly for me I have been on that end of the rope 3 or 4 times with this market.Originally Posted by Organica
I just don't get base salvage storage at all. When I need salvage, I buy it from the market or from AE.
I get the game mechanics and read up on that stuff but the market is a bit of a stranger for me. Personally if I could combine IOs to make others and never be near the market I would be easier for me and I would be a happier person game wise.
So my whole point is for someone like you who has a clue its apparent that you can make 200 million in a few days. To me I was selling generic damage IOs for 300k not noticing it cost me 490k just to make them so I was taking a loss on making them, again it shows how retarded I was not too long ago. Matter of fact you could probably search my name for that exact thread I posted as a warning to newer players.
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I did some searching about both of these procs on the forums.
From what I read as of 2010 posting for Absolute Amazement Hit Debuff Proc it is NOT WORKING. I'm assuming its correct but just confirming for 2011.
From what I read on the Gravitational Anchor Hold Proc is that it is WORKING.
Again just asking before I waste my time on considering the Grav proc IO. Where if the A.A. Proc is now working that would be helpful also to me. -
Very good read.
After 4 pages of reading I actually took the time to read what you were saying about buying and selling. For some reason anytime something sounds like work I begin to glaze over the words until I am read blah,blah,blah. But after forcing myself to re-read some of your posts it finally was able to sink in.
After 6 years ( 1 year break for WoW ) I learned a few new things.
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Quote:Cost me about 500 million and hero merits for the LOTG and another IO from one of the sets that cost 100 million. I also did some creep bidding but it was still buy it now attitude, meaning I didn't bid and wait a few days.. I just kept bidding until I was able to purchase the IOs. EG Gaussian endurance recharge sold for 40 million top price and lowest was 30.. I paid 45 million.Originally Posted by Fire_Tanka
Nice thanks, do you know roughly how much this build would cost?
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Both are good, but I think Traps is better then Dark simply because of the game mechanics.
Traps provides true defenses numbers where as Dark provides defense through debuffing a enemies ToHit. The difference is ToHit debuff can be resisted, especially by AVs. I would rather have a sure thing then hoping stuff works out, especially when it really counts. But that's just me, I'm sure some Bots Dark player will put out examples of how great Dark is.
I can solo 4/8 setting with my Bots Traps. I've fought AVs solo with my bots trap. Heck I fought 2 AVs at the same time during the incarnate missions before I understood how to fix the settings for no bosses.
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looked at the build
Traps allows you to be defense capped. Your not capped.
Here is my Sonic Traps, just swap out Sonic for Fire
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Quote:I'm Trolling ??Originally Posted by Cold_X
Vengeance doesn't MAKE you a farm toon, having Vengeance makes any farm toon BETTER. Just because something has Vengeance doesn't mean it has the powersets for farming. Optimization is key for farming. Go roll a MA/SR and go farm with it, have fun. I'll keep playing my SS/FA who dominates everything...and has vengeance, because he is optimized.
The level 1-3 farms are great...for limited sets...and till lvl 20ish. An SS/FA farming a lowbie is still going to be faster. A DP/MM blaster using vengeance can farm at a higher level and tons faster then a petless MM, you are talking crazy haha
Having a petless MM is probably one of the dumbest things you can do in this game regarding optimization. Your toon is beyond gimped. You're talking about people taking vengeance which adds substantial Def and Dam for one power slot, enough to Softcap an SS/FA to S/L or F/C if he wants? LOL.
There's no way you're serious, you trolling?
With your one line response of GTFO.. I guess that is how you start every conversation with a stranger you provoke them with an insult or a challenge and see how they react ?
All I am saying or defending is if vengeance is what makes a DP MM a farmer then I can farm with any toon that has 1 or 2 AOE attacks and vengeance. All I need is one player who is willing to be vengeance bait and play dead. Now I don't know how good that might be for you.
I know the one time I decided to give out free farms to people for 2 nights I ended up feeling like an American tourist in a 3rd world country where the kids won't leave you alone trying to sell you a stick of gum. For the next few weeks any time I would log on I would get someone asking for a farm or donating my services for him and his buddy. Nutshell very pushy players trying to dictate how to spend my game time.
As for the mastermind..
Your comment about being the dumbest idea shows me how narrow minded your thinking is and how limited your game play is.
Several points I want to bring up.
1. I have 15 level 50s all IO'ed and just about all can farm. I have a several of 30s and 40s toons. I only have 1 level 50 scrapper. NONE of my other 50s are Tanks, Brutes or Dominators. None of my 50 toons have purple sets. So since I can farm with many of my toons any missions, not just an AE mission.
What more do I really need ? I mean really I have at least, at a minimum 8 toons that can farm 4/8 settings and none of them have any fire or FOTHM builds you see running around. So what more do I really need in this game ?
2. I have 2 bases, one hero and one villain. Both maxed out with storage and all the storage, 3 of which are IO storage bins are also filled with assorted IOs. I have about 5 sets of 4 Kinetic Combat sets that are just sitting there for years. Just in case I want to do something.
3. Let me make a correction with the petless mastermind comment. I do have the last pet with one upgrade.I wanted the Ice sword for the look.
I just soloed 1/8 Crey fire farm at level 48 with a 1 pet mastermind. Mind you the pet dies pretty darn fast at times as I cannot keep him near me because of the AI. And its only 48 with no Alpha incarnate and not defense capped yet.
So my simple point is I am farming 1/8 with a petless mastermind that you said is : "one of the dumbest things you can do in this game regarding optimization. Your toon is beyond gimped"
So it shows you really don't have a clue.
There are players that can't solo 2/4 setting, but I am farming with my gimped toon go figure.
If you want to farm some specific special AE mission with Vengeance by all means do. And I will farm any mission I want with my gimped 1 pet mastermind. But I will disagree that any build that requires vengeance to be able to farm is the best farming blaster toon. -
You do know you can go villain pick up the PPP and then come back. Just putting it out there.
Build wise I would agree about Cardiac once you have Hurricane on your really limited in what you can do before you start dropping toggles. The rule of thumb I had someone mention to me is you should have a 2 point coverage between endurance to use ratio. You barely have 1 point.
My other thoughts on the build would be get a higher range defense number and have it set up to have hurricane running all the time when solo. Its already been shown that you cannot turn hurricane on and off in quick succession to obtain that -ToHit debuff it offers.
So I am thinking the Range Defense cap would allow you to close the gap more safely between you and the enemy and then have hurricane max out your melee and aoe defenses to anyone within it.
This is what I put together real quick.
I would have to play with the build several times to get the endurance ratio up, even with Cardiac. But this is everything running excluding Snow Storm. I'm thinking just 2 end redux in snow storm or 2 hami's maybe.
I went with a PPP because Electric Fences is good for stopping the KB. So you can give mobs the debuff of hurricane and still keep them in place for the most part with fences.
The attack static discharge is used to help you build up aggro with Provoke. Luckily Hurricane will help your pets as well boosting up their defenses as well.
End result your almost range capped with Steamy mist suppressed.
Does steam mist suffer from suppression ?
If it doesn't then your ranged capped.
You have more recharge for having double lighting storm up a bit longer.
You can swap out the 6 slots in Steamy mist for 3 slotted LOTG set I have in other places. It lowers your range defense a bit but gives you 3 slots some place else.
O2 I think could be slotted better as well.
Again 20 minute toss up just to give you an idea.
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Quote:http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=122736Originally Posted by Square_Woot
Is there a macro or a bind to delete insps? I find playing around with the mouse for that slows me down.
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Quote:If Vengeance makes you a farm toon then I can make a farm toon out of anything. Heck I have a petless mastermind that is farming 1/8 setting and I'm not fully slotted with IOs yet and I'm solo.Originally Posted by Cold_X
Using Vengeance means a character isn't a farm toon? GTFO lol
If your gonna spend the time and money to create a build to farm I would rather be able to farm anything then one specific AE mission.
But if anyone has taken the time to read some of the forums you can see you can farm yourself without vengeance with one aoe attack and hand grenade temp.
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After reading Adeon response I just skimmed over your build.
I think you need to read up on some of this stuff to learn about some of the game mechanics.
http://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011...important.html
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics
In my personal opinion.. Again I said Personal Opinion.
I would not suggest Device unless its an old toon you have at level 50 and want to revamp because you have the money. Traps is much better then Device especially if your just looking to slot SOs or generic IOs. I will not bother you or anyone else with any details or debates beyond this simple statement. Plus as a side note you are going to die many ugly deaths in incarnate trials without any set bonuses.
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Think it will work well with Defender Traps.
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@ Local man
I don't think you can attack while invisible or it at least breaks invisibility I think. Too lazy to read up on the power before posting though so I'm not so perfect either as I should just get the answer.
But Toe Bombing was coined with Device. Player would toss a smoke grenade while having cloaking device enabled on a group. Then they would run into the group and drop a Trip mine at the group of mobs feet. Then the player would zip back away from the mob in time to fire off Full Auto against the mobs at whatever was alive.
What eventually happened was players discovered that Super Speed does have a stealth component itself. So you now can use super speed with a Stealth IO proc which also adds to the stealth component of super speed and you can do the same as you could with smoke grenade and cloaking device. So in a sense Traps players can do the same. I know it works because I have been doing it with all my traps toons for quite some time now.