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Once again _Castle_, your a gentleman and scholar. Thanks for taking the time posting those numbers for us. As for the numbers themself, I know Im quite satisfied with them. I think it makes for a more health PVP evironment.

And to the ppl displeased with Doms. Think of it like this. How long does it take you to recharge you best toggle droppping power? I know for my Dom, TF recharges pretty fast considering. And Doms are made the "kings" of toggle dropping after I7. I think that in itself is pretty flattering.

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Are you kidding me? TF takes like three years to animate, and unless you have recharge reduction or hasten it takes 20 seconds to recharge. TF is the worst one, lol. Blaze and Psy Shockwave are probably the best ones now - short animations, shorter recharges, and PSW is PBAoE.

Let's face it, they made ALL the patron powers gimped so we wouldn't feel bad if we didn't want to take one.

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Dominator: Bone Smasher: 5% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Total Focus: 64% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Incinerate: 5% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Blaze: 64% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Ice Sword: 5% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Greater Ice Sword: 64% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Mind Probe: 5% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Psychic Shockwave: 64% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Skewer: 5% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Ripper: 64% for 1 Toggle

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Instead of 5% and 64%, it should be 50% and 95%.

Let Dominators be the one scary AT that can drop toggles reliably! Maybe it will give our opponents a reason to, I don't know, pay attention to us when we're not in Domination mode.

I've been PVPing with my Dom since November, and never once did I think 100% to drop 1 toggle was overpowered considering how painfully long it takes to actually kill someone. (If my blue bar doesn't run out or they don't get bored and log first that is.)

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Agreed. How was Dominator Toggle Dropping overpowered again?

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Based on testing and numbers from others, all I am going to say is this;

Either the Devs are going to have to roll back the toggle-drop, make other changes, or deal with the fact that they have now made Dominators ABSOLUTELY USELESS.

I am well past pissed off, as I have been waiting till I7 so that I can get to 50 and respec my Dom into a proper PvP build. Now there is none.

Obviously the Devs have never, ever played a Dominator or looked at their own datamining. Again.

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Oh there is one. It just involves a large ranged attack chain and hasten instead of melee attacks now. At least the snipes have a use now. >.>

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Can we get some numbers?

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Since you asked... (actually, this should have been done before.)
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Here is a complete list of all powers which have DropToggles associated with them and the percentage chance of the attribute taking place. In the case of powers which have a chance of dropping 2 toggles, I calculated the chance for this to happen and included it in the list.

Note: Blaster, Corruptor and Mastermind Trip Mines have drastically different percentages. I think this is a Bug -- I think the Corruptor/MM version was skipped when making these changes, or Trip Mine for Villains was increased, and Blasters were skipped. Either way, I'll be making changes to the chances for that in a future update.

Inherent: Brawl: 5% for 1 Toggle
Blaster: Devices: Trip Mine: 5% for 1 Toggle
Blaster: Devices: Time Bomb: 19% for 1 Toggle
Blaster: Electrical Manipulation: Charged Brawl: 5% for 1 Toggle
Blaster: Electrical Manipulation: Havok Punch: 22% for 1 Toggle
Blaster: Energy Manipulation: Bone Smasher: 22% for 1 Toggle
Blaster: Energy Manipulation: Energy Punch: 5% for 1 Toggle
Blaster: Fire Manipulation: Fire Sword: 5% for 1 Toggle
Blaster: Fire Manipulation: Fire Sword Circle: 22% for 1 Toggle
Blaster: Ice Manipulation: Frozen Fists: 5% for 1 Toggle
Blaster: Ice Manipulation: Ice Sword: 22% for 1 Toggle
Defender Force Field: Force Bolt: 8% and 2% for 1 Toggle; 0.16% chance of 2 Toggles
Controller Force Field: Force Bolt: 5% for 1 Toggle
Mastermind Force Field: Force Bolt: 5% for 1 Toggle
Defender Force Field: Repulsion Bomb: 27% and 5% for 1 Toggle; 1.35% chance of 2 Toggles
Controller Force Field: Repulsion Bomb: 19% for 1 Toggle
Mastermind Force Field: Repulsion Bomb:19% for 1 Toggle
Defender Force Field: Repulsion Field: 5% and 2% chance for 1 Toggle per 1/2 second; 0.1% chance for 2 Toggles per 1/2 second
Controller Force Field: Repulsion Field: 3% for 1 Toggle per 1/2 second
Mastermind Force Field: Repulsion Field: 3% for 1 Toggle per 1/2 second
Defender: Kinetics: Repel: 5% and 2% chance for 1 Toggle per 1/2 second; 0.1% chance for 2 Toggles per 1/2 second
Controller: Kinetics: Repel: 3% for 1 Toggle per 1/2 second
Corruptor: Kinetics: Repel: 3% for 1 Toggle per 1/2 second
Peacebringer: White Dwarf Strike: 5% for 1 Toggle Defender
Storm Summoning: Lightning Storm: 20% and 4% for 1 Toggle; 0.8% chance of 2 Toggles
Controller Storm Summoning: Lightning Storm: 17% for 1 Toggle
Defender Storm Summoning: Thunder Clap: 12% and 2% for 1 Toggle; 0.4% chance of 2 Toggles
Controller Storm Summoning: Thunder Clap: 8% for 1 Toggle
Warshade: Black Dwarf Strike: 5% for 1 Toggle
Stalker: Assassin's Claw: 22% and 4% for 1 Toggle; 0.88% chance for 2 Toggles
Stalker: Assassin's Strike: 22% and 4% for 1 Toggle; 0.88% chance for 2 Toggles
Stalker: Assassin's Blow: 22% and 4% for 1 Toggle; 0.88% chance for 2 Toggles
Stalker: Assassin's Blade: 22% and 4% for 1 Toggle; 0.88% chance for 2 Toggles
Stalker: Assassin's Impaler: 22% and 4% for 1 Toggle; 0.88% chance for 2 Toggles
Stalker: Assassin's Eclipse: 22% and 4% for 1 Toggle; 0.88% chance for 2 Toggles
Dominator: Bone Smasher: 5% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Total Focus: 64% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Incinerate: 5% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Blaze: 64% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Ice Sword: 5% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Greater Ice Sword: 64% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Mind Probe: 5% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Psychic Shockwave: 64% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Skewer: 5% for 1 Toggle
Dominator: Ripper: 64% for 1 Toggle
Mastermind: Assault Bot Smash: 5% for 1 Toggle
Corruptor: Traps: Time Bomb: 19% for 1 Toggle
Corruptor: Traps: Trip Mine: 75% and 37% for 1 Toggle; 27.75% chance for 2 Toggles
Mastermind: Traps: Trip Mine: 75% and 37% for 1 Toggle; 27.75% chance for 2 Toggles

EDIT: Fixed formatting

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Poor Bone Smasher ; ; I'm going to miss dropping toggles with ye.

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Seriously...

If all the patron shield powers really cost about 1 End per second then they better put us damn close to the resistance/defense cap. 1 End per second is insanely high for any toggle, let alone shields. I'm hoping it was a misprint or the devs are using someon completely different number system than us.

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So, for Dominators, the shields cost a ridiculous amount, the end drain in two of the sets recharges WAY too slowly, and the damage powers and pets we get are inferior to ones we already have...

What a great way to make sense even the few Dominators who were yelling at us to be optimists about our PPPs are now becoming frustrated and confused at this.

When Scirocco's Ball Lightning does less damage than Whirling Hands, has a longer recharge, and costs more end, I think there is a bit of a PROBLEM.

Please tell me the numbers are a joke.

Wish I could see it ; ;

It seems a lot of people are saying they can't enter missions in GV without crashing, though.

Anyone have any values for Dominators?

You forgot to put Soul Storm in there. That's the most uber looking ST hold in the game.

States isn't leaving.

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Sorry Johan, Lightning Rod isn't effected by Fury.

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Change of Plans. Castle came out and said they changed it so it IS affected by fury.

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When is I7?

Just kidding -- How about talking about the new costume options being available in I7?

There have been mention of a few but then we got a few surprises like the robot shoulder pads, anything else we haven't seen in screenshots, Posi?

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I said no "When is I7?"

Interview over.









Yes, there are more costume options you have not seen.

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KILTS????

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Fat Slider? >.>

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Finally, domination removed from PVP, cause a kick to the groin will make them (doms) quit whining.

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I see you around the Dom boards, yet you don't seem to know much about Doms do you? lol. We won't stop whining, we'll whine harder (or quit). Why the hell would we STOP whining when the one cool thing about teaming in PvP is the fact that when all goes well, we DO get Domination off.

Dude, he's not saying he's going to nerf mez protection...

He's saying that if a Blaster and a Scrapper were to fight, The Scrapper had better prepare to fight him like he has no toggles, because said Blaster will Detoggle him and he WON'T have those toggles.

In other words: Scrappers should pop breakfrees BEFORE the fight instead of only after they get mezzed. Read the whole thing and you'll see it. This was only clarified 40 times...

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Perhaps the biggest defense I have against /EM is I can see it when the pop BU+Aim+PB. The key is neutralizing them while they are in that mode. I never understood why Goku let Frieza go through his transformations??? Beat the guy down while he's transforming.

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Goku let Frieza gather 100% power because he knew he could pwn him either way. Even King Kai says so when Frieza does reach 100% "Ooh...maybe he's not so crazy after all!"

I think I just geeked in PvP General x.x

Ew. Doms mostly suck in PVP, how would that help at ALL?

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Woot.. not many more to go.

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Yeah... I wonder how much longer... I only can think of two or three more I know of, and none of them are frequent posters.

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<.< gee, I feel slightly insulted

*puts on a chopped liver sign*

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You would be one of the posters I mentioned being afraid to mention..

I just don't know what is what anymore. All this time I thought Pep_Cat was a girl.



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And to think I think I had something resembling a crush on "her" o.O x.x @.#

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I nominate my nemesis.. Pep_Cat!

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Too late. I already tried before you did >.>

I nominate Pep_Cat.

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and the breathtaking:
Thor's Assassin

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((((((((((((((((((O.O))))))))))))))))))

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Surly some of these things could be fixed with a simple run through with a spell checker.

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The irony is palpable.

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So very glad I'm not the only one thinking that....

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ROFL. Way to tell em, Surly boy >.>

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>.< and shame on you who don't know what Nyo means! it's the same as mew! it's just dialect!

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Googling for "nyo" gives, as the first Image, this. >_>

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So coote!

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Nya! It is!

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So......cute o.O Senses...overloading...X.X

I think I love you Pep_Cat ; ;

My Bots/FF MM is an evil doctor who likes to stick thermometers in places they shouldn't go Talk about being a sicko.

Ballista-1 handed my [censored] to me about 4 times before I finally gave up on that mission and the timer ran out. He taunted me all the while. It was akin to the Perfect Cell Vs. Vegeta fight in DBZ, and I was the overconfident Saiyan x.x

Necropost FTW >.>