TwoHeadedBoy

Easy to call it 'powerful' for a blueside player, but I guess you guys are known for your sentimentality (and replacing the letter g with an apostrophe, apparently?) but us Villains are pretty freaking angry that we had to watch a level 20 contact with a purple-maroon generic used car salesman costume, and ponytail to boot, kill Statesman, while our decked out 50+3 Villains with the DPS to solo level 54 Heroes (which I planned on doing, I was all set to solo Statesman and kill him at 54x8 the moment that part of the SSA launched) had to watch him die in a freaking cut-scene.

We wanted to kill Statesman with out bare hands. We don't care about hero sentimentality like this thread. Yes, I'm pesudo-RPing at you, and no I don't RP at all.

Here's the deal- I don't think I'm one of you. I have been known to make over a billion infamy in a day, when I want to. Inf is by no means an issue for me, because I know that I can make it quickly whenever I need it, but I also don't sit on it and hoard it.

I can make inf. to fund a project, which is the only time I bother. If I have an alt that I want to be decked out, I will deck it out. What I'm curious about is.. Why would anyone be a "real" marketeer?

I understand that many of you have been around much longer than me, but I just see that as more time needed to make more characters, pay for them to be leveled if you want, purple them out, get them the PVP IO's they need, pay for bank missions if you miss them, etc.

For me, this game encourages alts so much that there's no point in hoarding infamy. If I want a new character, I spend a couple of weeks in game farming and marketeering to collect the 5 purple sets and 3 or more PVP IO's I need, plus an extra billion or two for extra stuff like Kin Combats and LOTG's. I spend it all within a day of making it.

I guess I just don't understand why people would hoard infamy unless they plan to use it for something. I've met players who post about how much inf. they have and how awesome it is, and I've seen them running around at level 50 with no x5 ultimate stacks and nothing to show for their marketeering in game whatsoever. I've seen people post on this board saying "I don't play at level 50."

I guess I'm just wondering what the point is for these types? Are you just hoarding infamy for the lol's, and to say you did it, while having nothing to show for it. or am I missing something?

I think we should all just chill out with the new Incarnate slot business, take a minute to reflect, and acknowledge Tyrant as our champion. I mean, damn, I've seen leagues of sixteen fail to kill Marauder. If some of us can't even be smart enough to kill one of Tyrant's minions, how the hell are we supposed to take down Tyrant!?

There was an epic thread in the COH General section full of a bunch of people whining about how hard MoM is. If an ENTIRE LEAGUE OF PEOPLE (my assessment of their competence withheld) can't take down a single pawn that Tyrant moved forward, how would they expect to defeat him? This guy solos Hamidon, for chirs'sake!

More seriously though, I just don't think that we, as players, deserve more Incarnate slots. We have an IO system and access to some seriously awesome Incarnate abilities already, and leagues manage to fail trials besides BAF and Lambda (or are lazy enough to never branch out to new trials, much less figure out that the word "you" has three letters in it) and so I would say that any new Incarnate slots should be withheld from us.

The stipulations? Any new trial after i22 should exclusively grant iXP for the new slots. Only characters who are at least 50+1 should be allowed to join these new trials. BAF and Lambda should only be able to be run once per day per account in order to get people to freaking do something else, get a grasp of how the game works, and prepare themselves for challenges.

Once Primal Earth has proven itself competent enough to take down ONE FREAKING INCARNATE(Tyrant) and his minions, without failing, maybe then we should be given access to new Incarnate powers. If I was the Well though, I would take about 40 of our players in my pocket and move on to a new dimension less populated by <remove potentially inflammatory description at this point.>

Those quotes from Arbiter Hawk are nice to read, so thanks for posting them. That being said... The idea is no different from what I've already presented. His position clearly warrants posting from the position of Dechs Kaison TF's, rule number.. I forget which number, but that rule is "Any build, any budget, no exceptions" or something to that effect.

While from Dechs' perspective, that is a totally fair, honorable, and flat-out awesome rule, from the perspective of a Developer the same standard does not apply. He's talking about "inf per second" and saying he doesn't think Peacebringers are designed to grief themselves through KB, he's failing to address the players who DO spend billions of inf. to maximize the performance of their characters.

Yes. I understand that most players don't spend billions on their Peacebringers to maximize their performance... But some players care about their characters enough to spend billions upon billions on them, and we expect them to perform up to par with everything else on the same budget when we do.

I just don't think it's fair to dismiss the "min/max" philosophy, because the people who min/max their characters are the people who tend to care most about their characters, and have the most vested interest in their potential.

Arbiter Hawk is saying that he was afraid of Peacebringers becoming farming machines, and then mentioning how powerful Footstomp is, and what it does to make SS good? Well, awesome. SS is good. Footstomp is good. Is he nerfing Footstomp? Hell no, he isn't. Obviously SS isn't overpowered if it hasn't been nerfed and no comment has been made about any pending changes, so why can't Peacebringers perform up to that same standard? Why would it be so horribly overpowering for Peacebringers to have the same AOE potential as Super Strength? Obviously SS is WAI, so why should Kheldians continue to suffer?

As for the KB change he's currently "working on," all he presented the poster with is a boatload of potential problems and no proposed solutions, so I can't say much... All that I can address is the "social issues" he mentioned, and I certainly have a solution for that, which is proposing one of the things he rejected:

Why not let people have the option to turn off their KB?

Arbiter Hawk says that it would lead to social pressure. I say that it would lead to more choices for the players. Sure, some people might not like KB. As it is right now, if you have KB, they can just deny you a spot on their team. If KB could be turned off by the little parrot in PD though, you would have a choice: Either turn off your KB or find another team. Better yet, it would encourage smart KB players to form their own team, assuming they could lead content effectively. No one can kick you because, well, you have the star. Just like anyone else who forms a team.


That's just my sentiment. I appreciate that Arbiter Hawk corresponded with a player and gave permission to re-post, but that's still not cutting it in my opinion. I really think that we need a Dev-Made "Kheldian Issues" thread where we can all present our views and ideas to the powers that be and have some interaction, rather than our current system of posting, speculating, and hoping for results.

*Makes Peacebringer joke*

*Runs out of the thread*

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Love you guys.

Squid Daemon's costume rules.

Updated. Looks like 6 spots left. If we fill up and have people interested past the league cap, I'll compile a list of reserve members in case one or more don't end up making it. Spots on the league itself are first come first serve.

Pretty sure the PB wins in PVP every time. Warshades are meant for PVE.

Assuming everyone can make it, that's two full teams so far. 8 spots to go and plenty of time to fill them.

The global bonus is provided all the time no matter where you slot it.