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This would be great.

When I read that line I actually thought his post was going to be sarcasm.

This and if you complete all the badge objectives in a single run you get one extra.

No! If I want to run a trial with some friends I don't want to have to gamble whether they're even going to be on the same league as me.

Probably because the patch wasn't ready then, hmm? They don't materialize out of thin air you know. No, you're right. I bet it was all good to go yesterday, but they held it back just so they could throw a prime time downtime in our face just at the last minute! Our devs are evil like that.

I'm glad that they decide to add a stability patch before the weekend. Lots of people are having problems with disconnects and crashed. If you can't put yourself past that, you're a selfish *** as far as I'm concerned.

I agree. As far as crafting systems go the Incarnate one is really rather simple. I don't see people complaining that there is more than one of each rank of invention salvage ...

What a dumb statement to make.

I'm not trying to deny the relative uselessness of the LFG system, but that 'need for sifted groups' really doesn't exist. At least not on Union server. There are almost constantly PuG trial leagues being formed in Pocket D, all you have to do to get in one is show up with a level 50 character and shout out in broadcast or one of the TF forming global channels.

I've been on trials without a single tanker or with 7 tankers, runs with only 2 support characters or with 17 support characters and everything in between. All (except a few the first day) have been succesfull.

I've done over 30 succesfull trials on my dark/dark corrupter, always doing my very best to be of use to the league. Most of the times I got a common or uncommon at about a 50/50 devide. I also have gotten 2 very rares and 2 rares. 1 very rare was on a succesfull MoBAF which I was leading, and because of that not participating as much as I usually do.
The other 3 where on attempted MoLambda runs. We failed them, running out of time and needing to use a few grenades at the end to complete. On all 3 of those MoLambdas there were always a much larger amount of players than average, (8 or more) that had at least a rare reward table.

No idea what to conclude out of that, other than that all Lambda runs I'll be organising will be Mo's from now on.

Edit: hmm, thought I was on the Incarnate rewards discussion thread, but I guess it fits here too.

I wouldn't try griefing RPers on the WoW RP server if I were you.

I wasn't even aware people called them by colours. I the 40 somethings raids I've done on Union server I've never seen anyone use the colours to distinguish teams.

That'd be freaking horrible. The teleport suppression is bad enough as it is, and at least has a reason that makes sense.

As you say, the problem lies more with the limited time and resources of the development team rather than with a flaw in the overal design.

All I hope for is that the next batch of trials will stilll be useable to unlock the currently available slots and that no new line of salvage is added for the next set of Incarnate slots. And I hope the next set of trials doesn't take 4-5 months to reach us. I can wait a bit longer on the slots themselves.

Posts like this make me wonder what exactly people expect out of a game like this.
90% of all the complaints I see can be reduced to people being pissed because they're not having their ego stroked enough or having ridiculous over the top expectations.

If you're expecting every issue to bring a 40 hour long solo centric story arc tailored around your character you're bound to end up dissapointed.

You're also playing the wrong type of game.

It's easily fixed by assigning 1 aoe heavy character from each AV team to the ambush team.

Actually it also appeals to people like me: those who just enjoy the trial style gameplay. A group of people acting in a planned and coordinated manner to achieve their goals. They could've ditched the whole Incarnate slots thing and just have given us the trials as they are, add a handfull of reward merits or something at the end (I don't really care, but there probably should be something), and I would still run them as often as I do now, (currently 2-4 a day) just because I enjoy the actual gameplay. The whole loot thing only serves as a means to character progression for me and even that I just consider a nice bonus, not the meat of it.

The most fun I've had so far in I20, was a succesfull (mostly) PuG MoBAF run. It was a mixed team with new and experienced players plucked from the global channels, everyone just bringing their preferred character. There was a clear plan, there was great leadership to relay that plan, and there was a flawless exection by all 24 participants. Everyone just did what they had to do, no hiccups, no big mistakes. It was beautiful.

This is what I was thinking too. But then again, there will be more trials and incarnate slots in the future, so the current situation is likely to repeat itself.

The difference is that even though people still get all the new shinies within days, now at least they have to run the new content for it. If everything had been made available through Alpha salvage, a bunch of people could've just started crafting all their T4s without even bothering with the Trials.

Now whether you find that a problem or not is up to you, but the devs obviously do.

He didn't hint, he flat out said it. But RIGHT NOW you can use them as an extra source for threads.

LOL. Yes, they all appeared in a single issue complete and full as they are now. Especially the soloable content.

End game narrower than pvp? in this game? Narrower than base building? narrower than the "I only solo and nothing else!" crowd? Hardly.

And really, why is the multiple issue things even an argument against end game content? I'd get it if it was all the Devs were working on, but it's not. You've got plenty of soloable story arcs in last few issues, including preatoria, there are 2 mid level TFs in this one.

I'm thorougly enjoying the varied types of pve content the devs have realeased in the past year. Is it all perfect? No. There's a number of things I would've liked to see handled differently. But all in all it's pretty good.

You mean the same narrow focus of solo content? PvP? Base Building? AE? badges?

I dare say that the Trials have much broader appeal than any of those.

Case in point. Union has been doing BAF runs all afternoon with a quite effortlessly 90% succes rate. On PuGs. There was even an unintentional succesfull Mo.
We got the strategy down and people are slotting their incarnate powers.
It's a blast.