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Originally Posted by SmegHead

My best surprise would have to be logging on a lowbie alt that happened to be sitting at the mercy BM. I checked my inventory to find out I sold a low level training enhancement for 200mil.

Originally Posted by Veritech

we can shut out spam emails? *frik* there was one alt i hadn't signed into for little over a year, i log in and find the email section full of nothing but folks selling inf. i dont know how many there were, but i stopped deleting and logged off after about ten minutes.

Originally Posted by Leandro

Yay! Calvin Scott is back! (kinda)

For those who didn't realize it yet, he's Aurora Borealis' husband, and was a Task Force contact until issue 4!

(Since we're going to meet him in Praetoria, isn't about that time that his TF is put in ouro, hmm?)

Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill

Having the very limited, slowly growing pool of closed beta testers works out MUCH better than the "Everyone in the pool!" open betas. People mention a bug, then the (say) 100 other people in there take a look and test it, quickly. There's usually MUCH more focused discussion. That small core then becomes a resource when the next (say) 250 people come in (I am, of course, making up the numbers, I have no idea how many people in each 'wave') they can answer questions and help direct testing. (The direction not being intentional, but someone coming in, say, wave 3 and seeing "Oh, looks like they fixed this, anyone else still having Mastermind henchmen prefer walking on the ceiling?" is probably going to test that early.) It's also easier, with that smaller pool, for Devs to ask for specific feedback - it's like turning a rudder on a small motorboat instead of on an oil tanker, they'll get a faster reaction.

Plus, as far as focus, if the devs have a specific requirement they're looking for - say, more direct PVP changes - they can tailor their "invitation list" as needed to get more PVPers in early. If they want to test, say, a wide variety of people with ATI cards, they can browse the forums and see who asks about ATI issues and who posts about them, and invite them specifically. They can't do that with an open beta since it, by definition, is open to everyone - and then they have to weed out specific responses from the "This is cool!" "This sux!" "Oh, I just got a puppy this week!" posts.

When there's just a small issue without many major changes, the "All in" is probably (by comparison) fine. With something like what we know is coming with I17 (and with whatever we don't know about it,) the closed -> growing pool -> open model works better, IMHO.

Edit:
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Just have to point out that you can't know that. Can't go by forum posts - the times I've been in beta, open or closed, as well as on live most of my bug reporting is in-game via /bug, not forum posts, and you as a player won't see those.

Originally Posted by Lemur Lad

Thanks for telling me how awesome you are. Doesn't change my point in the least, but I'm sure your mom must be proud.

My point stands. It doesn't matter how good you are there are people who are just as good or better or worse in there right now, finding stuff just like you would. The system works. When I get in to be part of it, I help. When I don't get in, I trust the people who did to do just as well without me.

The process has been demonstrated time and again to work this way. It's also been demonstrated not to work well when done in the way you suggest above. Can't argue with facts.

Originally Posted by Lemur Lad

It wasn't intended as an insult. If you took it as such, that's just your own issue.

It's a valid comparison from what I remember of reading your posts, and compared to the people I know and remember from past Closed Betas. I didn't say you'd do worse, I said you wouldn't do better. There's a difference.

Besides, if you're going to dish it out by implying you somehow know you'd be better than the people who made it, then you should be able to hack being told you probably wouldn't.

Originally Posted by Spag_

Hello,

I Have two Gladiator's Javelin Damage proc's Villian side in which im looking to straight swap for two crafted Hero side.

My in game global is @Spag and i play on the freedom server.

Let me know if your interested!

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja

Why don't they just have another Open Closed Beta, that worked out so well last time.


/endsarcasm

Originally Posted by Lemur Lad

Like we're trying to tell you. More people is not better. It's about having people that can observe, report, and follow instructions.

As for people not inside being more motivated than the people who are? That's a really low blow. I've been there, several times. Most of the people who make it take it seriously and get a lot done. From what little I remember of your posting history, I don't think you'd do better.

I don't doubt for a second that some awesome testers get left out. I don't for a second think the solution is letting everyone in and hoping the good ones can make themselves heard over the roar.

Originally Posted by Predatoric

Ok then with this in mind i have a question, if its getting the damage from the pets, what would happen if you used smoke flash on ninja, and then detonator? would it still crit? I know its unlikely but i couldnt see why not.