Texas Justice

Schaub's Meat Fish & Poultry
395 Stanford Shoppng Ctr
Palo Alto, CA 94304

I'm still trying to figure out a way to purchase some of the steaks and ship them to myself economically. I guess I need to locate a FedEx and someplace to purchase dry ice to ship with it.

In the meantime, the Fred's Steak sandwich from their Deli counter will suffice.

Fasttrack, in regards to your edit I'll just post what happened last year, and what I'm told is standard practice there.

A player arrived mid-morning on Friday. This was the weekend of the Bay Area Meet & Greet. He had asked one or two Devs via Twitter Thursday night if he'd be able to get a tour of the studio if he showed up, but got no response. Both said on Friday and Saturday that they hadn't received the tweets or they'd have let him know that it wasn't going to be possible.

The player was greeted in the lobby and not allowed past it. He sat on the couch under the sign next to the Justice conference room (the conferencer rooms are named for the servers apparently) but forgot to get someone to take a picture of him sitting there. It was the appropriate sign for him to be sitting under since he plays on Justice.

A few of the OCR team visited with him in the lobby for a bit, as did a couple of the Devs very briefly before they headed to a meeting. However, they said it was standard practice not to allow tours. He was told that much of the time there is quite a bit of information that is work in progress for future content ideas pasted all over the place.

Understandable, but still disappointing.

Luckily, after leaving the office and going to Best Buy he got a phone call from another player inviting him to lunch. The tasty goodness of a Fred's Steak sandwich helped make up for the disappointment of not being able to tour the Paragon Studios offices.

I don't arrive as early this year so I don't need to make that stop on my way to lunch. Although it would be nice to get my picture taken under the sign for the Justice conference room since I forgot to do that last year.

I use this regularly at work. Our filter has a "drop silently" mode and a "throttle to nothing" mode that we use on various sites rather than actually blocking them. The "throttle to nothing" sites are usually bandwidth intensive sites that are throttled during school hours and then unthrottled after hours.

When someone complains about a site not loading, if I can't reach it I use this site to check if it's something in our network filters or if it's really down. Only twice has it been a filter issue. And both times it took several days for them to find out what was causing it to be filtered.

They are trying a few things with the forums to try to allow limited posting access for Non-VIP account. VIP's complaining the non-VIP's wouldn't be able to get help is one reason. This is one section that they've enabled posting by non-VIP players. Zwabblingbrook has commented on it in a couple of threads.

So far, I haven't found any other sections that will allow non-VIP posts, but I haven't tested every section. Frankly, I have better things to do with my time than continually test if my Free account can post in various places. There are a few sections I refuse to post in or even look at.

They haven't announced what their final plans on this will be since they aren't final yet. Once they've got it all planned out, we've been told those plans will be announced.

I agree with you here. This isn't the appropriate forum section for this. However, due to the posting restrictions in effect, it is likely the only place it can be posted.

Postings in a forum section that isn't appropriate to the content of the post is going to be problematic from a moderation standpoint. Since this is likely the only place the non-VIP's can post, it will become the catch-all forum section for their posts. This makes it harder to find posts from people actually needing help, which is likely to make them re-think their decisions on allowing non-VIP's to post.

EDIT: Currently, if I see a post that I think is in the wrong forum section, I check to see if I have an option to send a PM to a poster. If not, I know they aren't VIP.

Since one of the possibilities I listed was that Adeon was basing their statement off of officially posted (and still currently posted) information and he didn't claim anyone's statement was "Not True" I didn't hold them to that standard. Adeon has posted that this was the information they were using, so yes, given that they were basing it on officially posted information I'll give it a pass. Since it's only been in a handful of posts that Zwaffendorger has said he's working on trying some things on the forums and the plans aren't finalized, I don't expect everyone to have seen those posts even though I do encourage people to regularly check the Dev Digest and Community Digest. He said there would be an official announcement once the plans are finalized. It would be reasonable to accept information in official announcements and on the website as accurate until an official announcement is made.

I actually did hold myself to that standard as proven by me testing again before making my posts (with screenshots for those that need visual proof, that whole "Pics or it didn't happen" crowd). This also isn't the first time I've tested this. I test it anytime the subject comes up just in case Z has made another change in his tinkering. Anytime I've not been able to test something at the time, ingame or on the forums, I base my information on the information I have available with the qualifying statement that I can't test it currently, then outlining the steps I'd use so that those that can test it have a plan to follow.

I held you to that standard for calling other posters comments "Not True" without actually testing to see if they were "Not True". I even quoted where you said "I think" and "should be" as to whether or not this forum section was included. If you had based that on official announcements or postings on the main website instead of comments of something they are trying to accomplish but hasn't been finalized, I'd have not commented on that part. I merely said that your not testing it yourself didn't help your point, and I stand by that statement.

If you feel that this is a personal vendetta or borderline harassment, click the Report Post icon on the post you thing violates the forum rules against those particular behaviors. If the Moderator's agree that it is a violation, they'll take action either by modifying or deleting the post, by sending me a warning in a PM, or both. If they feel it is an extreme enough violation or a continued repeated violation, I'll get either a temporary ban or a permanent ban from the forums.

Do I think you are reading things into my posts that aren't there? In this instance I definitely do think that way. Which is one of the reasons I'm replying to your post.

The other reason I reply to your posts, or any other post I find has incorrect information, is that I don't like to let incorrect information stand unchallenged and uncorrected, no matter who made the post. But I don't make posts claiming other peoples statements are "Not True" if I don't test it first or have an official statement/website posting or Dev or Community post to reference. That's as bad as posting misinformation in the first place. True, some of the Dev posts have gotten lost in forum purges over the years, but I've got other sources to back me up in those cases and I'll state that the comment is one that I can't find through that Dev's post history.

If people post incorrect information and people don't correct them, people reading that information then believe it to be correct. We've had enough of that over the years with people claiming things like "The Devs said we'd never get power customization" when that wasn't what was said at all. That's just one example of incorrect information.

When people question my motives for some of my posts, as you have, I'll reply to make my motive for those posts clear. Some people would classify those types of posts as attacks on their character. I merely consider them to be someone deriving an incorrect conclusion, and I'll respond to try to clear up their misconceptions. Some people refuse to change their incorrect conclusions no matter what evidence is presented, but I'll always respond rather than let that stand unchallenged. Just like other incorrect information I see posted, as stated above, if it's left unchallenged then people reading it will assume it's correct.

EDIT: When people correct me when I post incorrect information, I simply admit I was working off of old information and thank them for correcting me. I don't make posts calling their motives into question or denigrating them in any way. I simply admit that I was wrong.

With all of the recent changes in the game and on the forums I'm making it a habit to test things each time I run across a post about the forum posting rules, in case Zweebleswobblebuttheydontfalldown has made changes since my previous test. I've been trying to do that with testing things in the game itself to keep from basing my remarks on outdated information as well.

It's possible that you got the Vanguard Pack as part of the Seven Years of Super Rewards loyalty program they ran earlier this year.

Cryptic can't answer those questions. They've not had anything to do with the game since early November of 2007.

No screencaps?

If you use Yahoo mail, don't bother. Create a Gmail account instead. Their mail server doesn't like Yahoo mail for some reason.

EDIT: Bah. Looks like something in the filters at work was blocking the images in the post. I wasn't even seeing placeholders for the images. That may explain some other wonkiness I've been seeing at work. I'll have to check that at our Tech Dept meeting tomorrow. And technically, that's not shaving his head, it's just a really short haircut. Shaving it would mean no hair left or possibly some stubble that has grown in since last weekend.