TehHippeh

I am now embarrassed for my server.

You will kite with your nem staff and you will LIKE IT!!!

So, there is not a kernal of value to anything I listed, they are just flat-out useless?

I really have not seen where a non-kin troller does that much more damage than a defender. I am willing to be shown the numbers, but I suspect this is a case where the proof is in your head.

I am aware that AVs do resist debuffs. But I thank you for assuming I don't know what I am talking about. I didn't know where the "enough to matter" threshold was so I mentioned that when I should not have.

I would take a travel power like IR over a temp power any day, especially temps can be shut off on certain tasks, or cannot be slotted for end reduc. But I am wrong there too.

I have learned something here today. Sorry to have wasted your time.

So, I am not sure how to read the combination of the two quotes above. I was responding to your mention of Issue 0, which would mean since the game began. So, that compares a defender to only a controller. I would take a defender over a controller 100% of the time because I would rather have blasts and the damage over the control (For PVE). I guess, though, you meant to mostly compare a corruptor with a defender.

Having the powers earlier is a great boon if you ever exemp. Having FS for an extra 6 levels is super duper for a kin. Having SB by level 12 is pretty nice. Having IR be available in the teens so you can skip travel powers is wonderful. Having the rad debuffs earlier is very awesome for lower-level arcs with AVs.

For minions and LTs and even bosses, sure, maybe the buff or debuff modifiers are a wash. But for AVs and GMs or +4 foes give me the defender please. I like that I get more end drain on my elec blast, or more -tohit on a dark blast.

And for the record, there is a wide valley between useless and better. You seem to think the distance is just one step from most of your posts that I have seen. I probably can't prove at all that a defender is better, at least not definitively. But I think I can show that they are not useless.

I think once again you've shown me that whatever game you're playing, it is not COH.

Same. And several laughably-quick failures on the Loves a Challenge badge

For someone who absolutely loves how reward merits allowed you to avoid the market, I find it surprising you completely avoid the fact that you can spend Emp merits to get the components you may need. Assuming you don't fail a trial, you would get a guaranteed 3 Emps a day running each trial once, with whatever drop you got at the end being a potential windfall.

Isn't this usually where we jump in with a wall of text and a lot of bold print, and a timeline, showing exactly how small of a community Linux users were over time, and that this change in no way affects a community of a meaningful size?

We can even throw in quotes and links for further proof of just how marginal this community has always been, and was never worth the developer time spent on it from the beginning.

But we would need to end with something snazzy, like italics and colored text. Or one word sentences.

Aha! Examples! I am now prepared!

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...01#post3726301
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...ve#post3002018
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...88#post3705788
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...88#post3586788
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...77#post3406577

Notice I did say "tried." I do not in any way think they succeeded, but I do think they abandoned what used to be suggested, "get a team," with these overbearing systems.

Yeah, but "stand and fight" is kind of the same thing as "don't play your character effectively" if you are not melee and the other person is, as just one example.

The real problem I think with all of this is the devs went out of their way to try to make the solo player who wanders into the zone and runs into a team of 5 on the other side more survivable. They also seemed to want to completely destroy those corner cases of the person with three accounts buffing up to capped levels in the hosp and then only venturing out for three or so minutes until the buffs wore off.

Don't get me wrong, that kind of thing is frustrating, but when you redesign to stop this kind of thing, the regular player does really get crushed in the middle.

I really think it would be a lot better for the Devs to just admit that a solo player may indeed be very outnumbered and outgunned in a PVP zone, put that in all the zone PVP text and descriptions in game, and encourage teaming. Remove all the forced gimping and have people learn. My zone experiences really sucked at first, but I didn't give up and I slowly learned how to play within the system. But the best thing I did is make friends in the zone so I was not alone.

I haven't heard anything about it in PVE, no. But Patient is correct in that it really was never worth worrying about. Jousting or confusing mobs via high-speed movement, so the AI gets stuck between melee and range mode, is so inefficient compared to just mowing them down with AoE that I am not sure why it was ever implemented.

And for those who want to: No, it was not just for PVP. Castle has said as much. I know PVP loves to get blamed for every power adjustment before I13, but no, sorry. :P

Especially now with the incarnate shifts, if anyone is happy to use travel powers as some kind of way to avoid getting attacked, I say let them. It'll slow them down and stop them from printing inf and tickets like a fire farmer in an AE mish

It also helps to have lots and lots of +def shields, like colds, FFs or the incarnate buffs. I've done many runs where we just give everyone as much +def as we can muster and pull him to the door. We may set off the mines, but don't end up getting damaged by them.

Combining +def with hitting him right away, before the mines can infest every nook and cranny of the place, should lead to success. However, most people end up TPing out I think, which actually decreases the chance of success IMO.

Come on, you know what I meant :P



Movement was fine without suppression with some of the other changes. Eliminating mez protection gave everyone the ability to stop someone for a couple seconds. Also, the suppression idea floated, that Castle did say he would emulate, was to have melee attacks CAUSE the suppression, so they would have an important role. Somehow, that never was tested or explored. Individually things made sense, but once they got combined it was just a disaster

I agree with a lot of what you said but not the part about PVPer attitudes being the main reason we got what we got. It would take a lot to convince me those changes were not going in no matter what - at least the ones that most people were complaining about, like heal decay, travel suppression, and DR. Hell, the anti-gank code was only pulled because it didn't work.

Yes, BaBs saw it coming before the psychic, which is why she has that reaction.

Wait...

I was not aware that any of the buffs were causing medical issues after sonics was changed however-long ago it was. So, I did not want to seem uncaring there, I just didn't think medical issues applied. The most I have heard lately is from the incarnate buffs, and those were not affected by this change.

However, I still maintain that the number of people who benefit from the change is larger, if not a lot larger, than those it negatively affects, so it still should be implemented. There is no realistic way to ensure that no one is affected by a given graphic, so you could easily end up with a change that can never be implemented using those strict standards.

Buff canceling would be nice, but the last I heard there is just no reasonable way to do it. They actually did more than I thought they could with the movement speed options available via Null. I am all for an option, but I just don't see how they could do it given how buffs and debuffs work.

The problem existed every time someone buffed you. It's just easier for people to do that to you now. The only way this change is a problem is if you are teamed and you tell a buffer to not use shields. It's too hard for them to skip you reasonably now.

But for the small percentage (relatively) of people who hate shields compared to the multitude of others who want them, and the group of people who will now play shield-based buffers because it is not as tedious? This absolutely should have been implemented now.

It has been known a long time that there are pretty challenging technical issues to overcome with regard to canceling a buff granted on you. Should they never implement any QoL like this unless they can handle every corner case?

Unless they cause havoc for your PC, I never understood the rage of people who get their costume covered up buy a shield effect. If you want to admire the costume, spend 10 minutes alone and unteamed before you log out and spin that camera around all you like :P

Yeah, we had one person who had done it before on our run this morning and it went fine. We had lots of dying, sure, but in the end we won. If Nugget were not there I am sure we would have had a lot tougher time.

Trying for the badges will make it a lot tougher, so we probably want to wait a bit on those

Even though you cannot (or are not supposed to) hurt antimatter, you can hit him with non-damage powers. Kin heals help a lot to keep the health bars full, for example. Lots of emps and lots of RA could also be super duper

It's even better when you read his forum signature. I wish I had the power of self-delusion at that strength.

Your superior intellect is no match for my puny weapons!

Bah! This was their chance to decouple the badges with paid time. It also would have ended that whole "RAAAAAAAGE, someone got their vet badge early!" problem.

In that very long thread filled with delicious, tasty drama, it was said by some kind of redname that performance concerns are why trollers and MMs were restricted. I guess the pet spawning does matter enough to count.

Edit: Necro already posted it. And I answered before reading the whole thread. I dub myself forumzfailz.

Premium is free. VIP is the same monthly sub fee.

Where you would look at costs is checking the different purchasable options and seeing whether the $15 for the sub fee is worth the 400 points you get to buy things.

If there aren't enough options in the store that you care about, and you only play enough characters that none are inactivated by the restrictions of not subscribing, premium would be worth it.

From the main site, and the Paragon Rewards section
http://www.cityofheroes.com/news/fre...n_rewards.html


Current players of City of Heroes® have enjoyed the Veteran Rewards program for years. Under that program, players received new bonuses for every three months they subscribed to the game. With the launch of City of Heroes Freedom™, Paragon Rewards--a superior rewards program in every way-- will replace the Veteran Rewards program.

Paragon Rewards gives you credit for every single month you are a VIP player, not every three. In addition, purchasing Paragon Points for use in the Paragon Market will improve your Paragon Rewards standing. You'll be able to select from all the rewards that you to could find in the Veteran Rewards in the Paragon Rewards program and new rewards exclusive to the Paragon Rewards program, as well! In addition, you can choose which rewards you receive every time you earn a new one.


Looks to me like points are only about in-store item purchases, and a separate rewards currency applies to subscribed time. I guess using the store bumps your rewards up as well.

I hope they stop the badges and just use this reward system from now on. Allow players to earn the vet badges up to the cutoff, but don't add any new ones after the cutoff point.