Speed_Force

It actually all comes down to this...

They got there first..

You did not...

Drop acrobatics. Even without it you have 8pts of knockback resistance which is more than enough against 99.9% of the content in the game.

You need more slots for Hasten to speed its recharge up and to help keep Rage running.

Drop Char for Ring of Fire and move two of its slots to Hasten. Four slots in RoF gives you 2.5% S/L Defense from Enfeebled Operation.

WP is definitely the "turn it on and forget about it" secondary of the Scrapper options and the simplest to learn.

As to the primary choices, both will do amazing things once they are maxed out but for the player that is new to scrappers I would give the edge to Katana.

Kat/WP will be a little bit easier to play for a someone new to scrappers as you won't have to sort out the combos that DB requires you to learn in order to maximize it's effectiveness.

Katana also helps your survivability early on with quick access to Divine Avalanche.

(but IMO DB's animations do look cooler)

- It won't open builds from previous versions of Mids.
- The "Accolade" virtual power is missing.
- All the PvP enhancements are flagged as unique, whereas only the Panacea +HP/+End, Shield Wall +3 res, and Gladiator's Armor +3 def should be flagged as such.
- The 3% defense and Resistance PVP IOs are acting as a global damage buff.
- The PVP IOs aren't acting unique within powers meaning you can slot multiples of one set of IO into the same power.

And probably a few other errors that I missed or didn't read about.

Soooo I buy the game at launch and give up on it after a month or two due to rampant mapserver disconnects, NPC spawning bugs and other problems but then years later I hear some good things about a new expansion (Villains, AE, etc.) and decide to give it a try again only to log in and find my perfect themed/designed character "Speed Force" has had his name deleted?

You know what happens then?

I delete the game from my computer, throw away the discs and NCSoft never sees a dime of my money again for anything they ever publish.

IMO all of you people whining that you can't get your "special name" are just too lazy to put any effort into coming up with something. What's worse are the people who just throw L33t speak, asterisks and other chaos into their names in order to (mis)spell what they want.

In the past three months I have added the following characters to my server:

Captain Galaxy
Bronze-Tiger
Steel-Dragon
Knight Shadow
Gravimite
Mass-Destruction
Lone-Star
Celestial Shadow
General Disorder

...and this is over five years after launch. If I can go to the trouble of using the Name Checking tools NC has provided us to come up with something decent then so can the rest of you.

When they have been running from my scrapper, I've noticed some of them run after about 8-10 seconds and at that point they have only been hit by Quills 3-5 times and maybe Spine Burst.

So while Throw Spines may be contributing they do seem to run even when it isn't used.

I've seen that exact same thing, mobs running from my spines scrapper when they just stand around my Claws toon.

That would explain why they run all over the place then.

I may have to experiment and see if turning off Quills will help with that.

(of course that would reduce the AoE goodness of the Spines set)

Not Bad Ishtar.

It's not easy to push a tank up to scrapper DPS levels but that build does it.

However, I found it easier (and much cheaper) to build a scrapper with Tanker levels of survivability instead. (about 650 million invested in my scrapper)

And based on your comments, I think you would enjoy playing the Claws/WP scrapper more because when AoE farming I just hit three attack buttons.



Still, your build is one of the best "Scranker" builds I have yet to see.

So I've been looking at the builds for "farming" Fire/kin controllers and I have been trying to figure out just what power they use to uctually do damage to the enemies.

The only really damaging power I typically see is Seismic Smash, well that and the imps.

The only other thing I see is Hot Feet and even with FS maxing it out the DoT would take forever to kill off an Lt or Boss.

Are the Imps doing the bulk of the killing for a soloing controller (I would think that bosses would murder the pets) or am I missing something?

So the patch notes say...

Well, it would help if you told folks exactly what you were trying to do with the character..

- A/V soloing?
- Single Target Damage?
- AoE Damage?
- Farming AE missions?
- Building for maximum survivability?
- PvP content?

For example, I could put together a build with crazy survivability but at the cost of a lot of other things such as recharge, accuracy, damage, etc. Or something with insane amounts of AoE attacks and damage but it would be a lot more fragile.

Without knowing what you are interested in doing any random build would probably not be what you were really looking for.

Well, it's one of the most survivable /fire builds I have ever seen, I'll give you that.

However, the global recharge and accuracy have suffered as well as Build Up, Consume and Fiery Embrace all of which are on really long cool downs.

If your plan is to nearly always be on a team with someone to buff your Recharge then it will probably work fairly well but for solo play I personally feel that it would just feel too slow to be enjoyable.

But that could just be me.

I needed it in order to be able to run Tough, Weave & Maneuvers.

Coldmed, I have three Fire tanks (Fire/Fire, Fire/SS & Fire/EM) and while all of them are "adequate" farmers, for the fastest (solo) influence or tickets per minute none of them can compete with my Claws/WP scrapper.

While the Fire tanks can kill a single spawn of 10 enemies faster (using a BU + FE fueled Alpha strike) than the scrapper, on a map where the enemies are litterally packed to the walls, the steady DPS of the scrapper allows him to quickly pull ahead in the number of kills per minute.

If I had to farm on a map where I could only kill one group and then it took me 30-40 seconds to round up the next one, then the Fire tank is the better choice.

However, if the mission is crammed with 100+ enemies that swarm my character as fast as the last one is killed then the Scrapper is the much better farmer.

As to the survivability of a Fire Tank vs a WP scrapper, frankly both of them are fairly hard to kill if IO'd out and played right. It all depends on the number of enemies and the damage types and debuffs that those enemies have as to which will be tougher to kill.

I could easily build a map full of endless Psi and Cold Based attackers that would rip your Fire tank to shreds. Conversely, I could build a map full of mobs that have Defense and Regeneration debuff powers which would be a suicide run for my scrapper. My scrapper has no problem at all being on a map solo surrounded by essentially infinite bosses with S/L, Fire, Cold, Energy or Dark based attacks. However just a couple Peacebringer Bosses with their Defense Debuffing attacks can give him Hell.

It all depends on what strengths or weaknesses are being played to.

You might get more out of slotting one or two procs in Typhoon's Edge as they will check each time the power is activated.

So with enough recharge you could conceivably be activating (and thus forcing a proc check) once every 7-8 seconds against all mobs in melee range.

Of course this assumes that you already have the damage enhancement in Typhoon's Edge up to the 89%+ range. If not then you'd be better off adding straight +damage enhancements at least until you reach the ED cap for the power.

And no, Soul Drain and Build up will not increase the damage from proc effects as the damage that they do is flagged as unenhanceable. While the proc will check and potentially do damage from Sould Drain's AoE it's slow recharge makes it a generally poor place to put a damage proc.

As for procs in Dark Melee, due to the high recharge in Shadow Maul it is the better place to put a damage proc effect (again, assuming you have the overall damage enhancement for the power at or near the maximum already)