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Originally Posted by MayorOfAngrytown

IMHO there should just be an alternate animation set for BS/ that gives you the 2-hander option. Wanted that since forever. I can't think of a reason not to give Tanks the 1-hander option though.

Also want it on Brutes, alt animations or not. Seriously. Nao. BS/ on Brutes.

Originally Posted by MisterD

To echo the other people is this thread..yes, EM is really that bad. I also had an energy melee toon, em/da brute, that I loved to bits. It would easily have been my most played toon.

I went with EM in the first place for the damage, and cause it was good in pvp (this was before i13). Prior to the em changes..the set was good, and I didnt feel it was OP in the least. Frequently, I would duo with a friends SS brute, and while I could down a boss faster with an et, tf, et combo, his aoe was miles better. In fact, I respec'd out of whirling hands.

When they announced the changes (et was the 891320132 week animation, tf with a lower mag stun) it just killed the set for me. Nerfing the two best powers, while giving nothing back, is just retarded. Not to mention that the Total Focus change was not needed (since seismic smash from Stone also does a mag 4 mez, similar damage AND animations in a quarter of the time).

After the changes, I still played with the toon a fair bit, since I had enjoyed it so much. But like others here are saying..you end up spending most of a fight locked in your stupidly long animations, while your team mates kill everything with aoe and faster attacks. About the best thing I found was on Cysts during the ITF..since they wouldnt die so fast.

To answer your question..just consider that EM used to easily be the most popular set for brutes and tanks when I started playing, and now theres a good chance that any brute/tank you see, will be SS.

I do pvp on an EM stalker, and there I dont mind the slow attacks so much, but for pve, where aoe and fast powers are king (think fire blast) it sucks. All in all, take the idiots who thought up the changes, and Energy Transfer them in the nuts, the OLD way.

Originally Posted by MisterD

Using incarnate pets totally invalidates the claim to have 'solo'd' these AVs. My emp/psi fender can 'solo' a rikti pylon..just by forting and abing my Vicky incarnate pet. Is that me soloing the pylon? Of course it isnt.
The incarnate pets do insane damage, utterly insane. What's more..they have a recharge value, meaning you cant have them out all the time. Sounds a lot like a temp power to me. Of course you can get technical, and call them Incarnate Powers.
Videos are cool though.

Originally Posted by magicj

Also, I really feel it needs to be said that the method for getting these incarnate powers is taking "grind" to a whole new level. Who the heck wants to run the same two missions over and over again ad nausium?

Not sure how the Devs expect to expand their player base with this kind of thing. It's absolutely mindnumbing.

Also, I have 6 GB of RAM on my system and Lamda grinds it to a scretching halt with lag. Frying someones computer just so you can have a bazillion wood crates in your warehouse is bad game design.

Originally Posted by Reppu

The core problem will be the healing. Even at those large resistance numbers, they will take continuous damage, and need the healing to keep them going. Sonic sacrifices the healing for... nothing worthwhile.

Originally Posted by Dacu

So on Freedom server I usually see people advertising ticket farms. I've run with some of them and I don't think some people do it the right way. They get 6-8 people in the group, run AE maps at 54/8 and kill all the mobs even after reaching 750 ticket or even 1500 tickets. I feel if I'm going to get tickets, I'm going to try to get it as fast as possible, and that usually means solo on my SS/Fire Brute.

I personally like using the FIRE! arc (#423253) on 51/8 as it's a 5 mission arc so you can just talk to the contact and re-enter without selecting the mission again from the AE console. I kill until I get 750 tickets, click the glowie for another 750 tickets, rinse and repeat. Roughly 9000 tickets in 9 minutes, sometimes a little quicker, sometimes a little slower.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWayYE9aFL4

The 9 minutes is overall, from selecting the mission, to load in and load out times, etc. There's probably room for improvement but so far I'm satisfied with this time.

I did mess up at the end worrying about my time and clicked the glowie too quick so overall it was 8974 tickets in 9 minutes 20 second.

Originally Posted by MAD UMLAUTS

With claws fire you get the resistance toggle, a self heal and the better damage aura before level 6.

Not sure how power surge and energize are relevant when claws/elec is supposedly so much better from 1-50.

And once you get burn you can pretty much start doing regular fire farms.

Originally Posted by joebartender

Because you have no need of Rage, Build Up, Follow Up or any other plus damage power once your at the damage cap and can keep the skittle rain falling fast enough to stay there.

Originally Posted by radsmash

I tried both SS/FA and claws/FA. The claws/FA seemed faster on the lowbie maps due to Spin. The claws/FA was the 2nd toon, so I may have used the experience of SS/FA to pick better powers. Or I just enjoy watching my toon Spin and seeing all those orange numbers.

Both toons are just used for AE tickets. Right now, the claws/FA is 32 and is my goto for tickets. The SS/FA is stuck at 24 and is looking like delete bait (maybe for a new tank, troller or mastermind).

Playing either toon is more of a job to get tickets for rare salvage than something I really want to level.

Reading this thread it sounds like SS/FA can be better outside the farm, but you need some serious inf to get there.

Honestly, they seem kind of a wash, go for the concept or the powerset you like to play.

Originally Posted by Black Zot

Someone want to translate that mess into English for those of us who don't speak chicken scratch?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville

There's no challenge when you farm your way to the top, cherry picking what you fight, and then fight only with maximum power builds. If that's what you enjoy doing, great. If you don't enjoy doing it but you do it anyway, that's insane.

Actually playing through the regular content without twinked builds is still interesting, even though I know this game so well that I could actually tell you exactly what the data looks like for every critter in my gunsights. If I wanted to, I could play this game like Neo plays the Matrix. If I wanted to, I could shift my perspective so all I see is entity, entity, attribmod, attribmod.

I don't do that because that would be idiotic to do to something I want to enjoy playing.

Originally Posted by DreamsRazor

The problem, IMHO, is as much as some hate things becoming homogenous, most people (yes I know you aren't one of them), like things to be the same. Ask any advertising person, and see how quickly the powers that be are quick to emulate (hell out and out copy) a success. Do I want a Defender that can support a team, blast, oh and now has mez protection and a blaster level nuke? Hell, yes I do. And to be honest so would almost everyone else. A lot of people like coke-cola, a lot of people like pepsi-cola. I dislike the way the path CoH has chosen, but I will still be playing it until they turn the lights out.

Why? The game does promote, being the same. FOTM builds and how many SS/FA brute farmer threads are out there, bear this out. However and this is the why I will always be a paying and playing customer is, I don't have to be this way. I don't play the incarnate system and politely tell people that ask, no thank you. If I want to try and solo a force fielding/electric blaster, I can. I have a SS/FA brutes, and lots of other FOTM builds, because I wanted one. I may someday try the incarnate system, hell I might tomorrow, (I drink an awful lot of coke and pepsi). I don't have to, and until they force a path down my throat for the majority of the content in this outstanding addiction I call a game, then I will always be bleating member of the flock, that just happens to stray a lot. And to be honest deep down wouldn't it be fun to have a tankmage?

Originally Posted by plainguy

I'm Trolling ??

With your one line response of GTFO.. I guess that is how you start every conversation with a stranger you provoke them with an insult or a challenge and see how they react ?

All I am saying or defending is if vengeance is what makes a DP MM a farmer then I can farm with any toon that has 1 or 2 AOE attacks and vengeance. All I need is one player who is willing to be vengeance bait and play dead. Now I don't know how good that might be for you.

I know the one time I decided to give out free farms to people for 2 nights I ended up feeling like an American tourist in a 3rd world country where the kids won't leave you alone trying to sell you a stick of gum. For the next few weeks any time I would log on I would get someone asking for a farm or donating my services for him and his buddy. Nutshell very pushy players trying to dictate how to spend my game time.

As for the mastermind..

Your comment about being the dumbest idea shows me how narrow minded your thinking is and how limited your game play is.

Several points I want to bring up.

1. I have 15 level 50s all IO'ed and just about all can farm. I have a several of 30s and 40s toons. I only have 1 level 50 scrapper. NONE of my other 50s are Tanks, Brutes or Dominators. None of my 50 toons have purple sets. So since I can farm with many of my toons any missions, not just an AE mission.

What more do I really need ? I mean really I have at least, at a minimum 8 toons that can farm 4/8 settings and none of them have any fire or FOTHM builds you see running around. So what more do I really need in this game ?

2. I have 2 bases, one hero and one villain. Both maxed out with storage and all the storage, 3 of which are IO storage bins are also filled with assorted IOs. I have about 5 sets of 4 Kinetic Combat sets that are just sitting there for years. Just in case I want to do something.


3. Let me make a correction with the petless mastermind comment. I do have the last pet with one upgrade.I wanted the Ice sword for the look.

I just soloed 1/8 Crey fire farm at level 48 with a 1 pet mastermind. Mind you the pet dies pretty darn fast at times as I cannot keep him near me because of the AI. And its only 48 with no Alpha incarnate and not defense capped yet.

So my simple point is I am farming 1/8 with a petless mastermind that you said is : "one of the dumbest things you can do in this game regarding optimization. Your toon is beyond gimped"

So it shows you really don't have a clue.

There are players that can't solo 2/4 setting, but I am farming with my gimped toon go figure.

If you want to farm some specific special AE mission with Vengeance by all means do. And I will farm any mission I want with my gimped 1 pet mastermind. But I will disagree that any build that requires vengeance to be able to farm is the best farming blaster toon.