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I actually had a similar idea for a Cyborg PB/WS
Basically a person cyberizes themselves to such a point where they finally lose their "Ghost" and a Kheldian moves in -
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Quote:Pretty sure Super-Strength characters address that issue with as much disregard as I do.Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
How exactly would one sling sand in a sewer? Or office for that matter? I don't think CoH is designed - yet - to allow us to use our surrounding environments as weapons.
or a click/toggle power with cool animations and "Spike" or "Shiny" effects that adds piercing damage+ DoT. The point here is something to set it apart from "I hit you wif mah hayunds!"Quote:Things like spiked knuckles, brass knuckles - those are all costume details 
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Street Justice I'm going to have to see a lot more of before I make a decision on it but for now? Eh I'm not feeling it.
I know a "Down and dirty, back-alley" martial arts style has been a hotly requested feature, but it really feels like something that would have been better suited as just customization for MA. The features it seems to have would have been great for some kind of transformation-based set, with each transformation having a different effect.
Furthermore, if they were going to go out of their way to make a "Street fighting" set, I would have hoped it involved more unique aspects instead of kicks and punches. Use of "Dirty Fighting" tactics like throwing rocks/bricks, slinging mud/dirt/sand in the enemy's eyes poisoning weapons, spiked knuckles/brass knuckles, that sort of thing. I'm sure it has all of the new animation team's signature flare and will look amazing, but said flare would have been better for MA if it was just going to be more kicks and punches. I can(and have) make a passable Kicking & punching dude/chick already.
Giving me a different thing that's just a new "Flavor" of the same thing when I could have gotten
A:something completely new or
B: More flavor added to the existing thing
doesn't sound encouraging.
Finally, if it visually fits certain characters more(and it probably will) I'll have to consider re-rolling in the future, versus a simple visit to the tailor. -
Quote:This is actually why I think city of heroes has the most capable system in place. The only thing that is limiting players in terms of concept(outside of specific game mechanics) isn't an inherent flaw in the system, but rather a simple lack of content. It's not that you can't pick any powers at random to create your own thing that's limiting, it's simply that all the options aren't there yet within the framework we have. but could be (relatively) easily added.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
That's actually one of the strongest arguments against such a system - what's the point? I'm sure everyone has the one or two things they'd like to make which the current system really can't, like Gun Fu, all elements, tank-mage and so forth, but what we have right now is... Surprisingly versatile. If you need multiple themes, you have a choice primary, secondary and epic, plus now Incarnate powers. It's not PERFECT, granted, but an Energy/Fire/Ice Blaster with a Dark Judgement and... I don't even know what the rest of the powers are... That's a pretty broad range of powers.
In my experience, almost all of the concepts people are after that seem to fall in-between ATs and powersets right now can be achieved trough the addition of new epics, patron pools, power pools and weapon/costume options. If I want, for instance, a character who uses a sword and a pair of handguns ala Dante, this can be achieved via adding a pistols epic to Scrappers/Brutes/Stalkers or a sword epic to Blasters/Defenders/Corrupters. If I want a character who uses elemental weapons, then we can add elemental weapons to the existing weapons sets. In fact, a fire sword and an ice sword for Dual Blades is already more expansive than most concepts out there.
As far as I'm concerned, free-form character building is all too often just too complicated, cumbersome and prone to making me gimp myself if I'm not Arcanaville, and it very rarely gives me anything too interesting that a class-based system like City of Heroes couldn't.
This also kind of represents a difference of opinion, in player type, I feel.
For me, this game is an abstraction of my idea. My fire-blasting character doesn't define his fire-blasting as only nine very specific abilities, he defines it as "Fire blasting" and uses it how he sees fit.
I think some other players, particularly proponents of an "open" system view the game as a very concrete representation of their idea. So when their fire-breathing characters have nine powers and only one of them is a cone/aoe, they feel limited.
of course there's the third that just doesn't care either way and just wants to min/max but I really don't know what to tell them except this type of game is supposed to be geared for lots of different types of players, and as stated before, full open creation ruins the diversity of player types/character types by essentially stripping it down to one big type that you have to pick the right path through. If that type of character isn't what you want, you can either
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Quote:It is entirely for concept reasons. How the character gets around is more often than not as deeply ingrained in my character concepts as primary and secondary, and will generally be settled on and picked as quickly as possible. I very specifically didn't want this character having a inherent travel power, and wanted them to feel more grounded and human, and I wanted them to use gadgets that gained their ability through application of his mid-level psychic powers. Full flight was actually far from what I wanted the character to use on a regular basis, even the Raptor pack was first treated as a special thing awarded for a job well done by the Precinct, and thus something that would have been pulled out for special occasions. The jump packs have that mix of "Gets you there, but it's kind of limited" that I wanted. Before, I had him using Teleportation and claimed it was him using his PSI abilities to sort of commandeer the Medi-port system, usually to help his teamates as I've given him a lot of support powers, but I mostly preferred using jump packs, ninja run, and raptor packs for concept more than the port.Originally Posted by Organica
I don't actually get why people work so hard to skip travel powers, unless it's entirely for concept reasons. But practically speaking, it's easier to take a travel power than it used to be since inherent fitness, and virtually all of my builds will benefit from combat jumping, hover, or hasten, and usually I take TWO of those powers. Plus superspeed and a cheap jump stealth IO in sprint makes stealthing a snap, which is very useful. Almost infinitely useful for me, virtually all my characters have some manner of stealth. ^_^
Generally, my thoughts go "He/she does this and this, and the way he/she makes their dramatic entrance is...." -
yeah, but that's annoying and the Raptor pack looks like crap.
Okay, I actually ran around and got good speed with ninja run+GVE pack+Steampunk pack timing extender -
don't make us explain the bad joke
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Straightforward question here, but I just HAVE to justify a post with at least a paragraph.
I have a character I've always pictured using "Artificial" methods of travel, jet packs for the most part.
Obviously raptor packs are somewhat inconvenient as they run out and, honestly, the Steampunk pack and especially the GVE pack are just cooler looking an have a more unique way of getting around. My previous problem with them had been that the GvE pack was extremely limited to the point it really didn't serve as a travel power, more just something to add vertical movement to, say a ninja runner or super speedster, more of a supplement to a proper travel power.
Having heard about the Steampunk pack's ability to combine with the GvE pack and seeing it's jump speed does increase with ninja run and sprint,My question is: could I make a character solely with those powers and get around at something reasonably approaching the same speed as my teammates? or do the jump packs fall just short of satisfactory?
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well yes, and I loves me some RPeses and I do that exact thing all the time. But that's not an actual gameplay mechanic that has something to do with what you actually DO in the game, so much as what you're pretending to do(while you play a pretend game, of course :P) This is intended to sort of bridge the gap between those two things.
Further more It can help RP in-mission/fight, instead of typing out a thing, you can just DO said thing, like using an emote to faint instead of typing out "Premmy faints" or having X costume piece instead of having to describe it all the time -
You bring up a good point, but that's kind of an inherent flaw of the engine where every thing we do in this game comes out as "Use the use key at x" Because every action is designed to either take place in a bubble of animation/effects(powers) or not at all(clicking anything), the only uniqueness available to players is what things look like, and what numbers they generate.There's no real difference in how the powers behave (outside of numbers and status effects), or interact with the environment or move through the air, because they don't do any of those things. With Aoe,drop powers and the difference between melee and ranged there's a little more, but that's still not very much, and there's not much to be done with that, anyway.
The third step of this idea would be missions particularly tailored to individual powersets, A Dual Pistols mission, a Fire melee mission, an Illusion controll mission but, again, go too far in that direction and you run the risk of Forcing the mission to only accept individual powers that players might not have taken, and thus be unwinnable. Furthermore it can weaken the "casual" nature of the game to start creating content that can ONLY be beat with the right combination of, not only archetype, but powerset as well.
A fourth step could be powerset- directed signature enemies. A Wandering samurai/Gunslinger who challenges gun/sword characters and can only be beaten by said characters and other similar ideas. Either within missions or as a random ambush(or both!).
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In comics, stories are written around the main character and thus the problems they face more often than not revolve around proper application of their abilities.
In this game(which is based on comics) missions have to be open for everyone to do, so everyone can experience them freely. Which is great.
But this can take away from the feeling of being the hero of your own story.
When the hulk and Professor Xavier are both given the same missions, it can make you feel like just a nameless, faceless avatar and break immersion.
My idea was conceived in the hopes of mitigating this somewhat.
Personalized Missions and Mission Personalization
The core of this idea is creating a way for the game to recognize different primary and/or Secondary powers a character might have, and then implement changes based on various factors(Random Chance, unlockable content, e.t.c.) that would require your character to use those powers specifically within missions to achieve certain goals. This would be somewhat similar to Kheldians causing Void Hunters to spawn during missions
Mission Personalization:
This would be an option based on random chance. During any given mission a chance would exist to cause certain non-essential secondary objectives to occur that can only be solved by use of the primary and/or secondary powers, Such as a fire using character having something on the mission frozen in ice and having to use fire powers to melt it, an Electric powered character having to re-charge a drained electronic device, robot, or power a generator, an Ice character having to put out fires, e.t.c
completing these objectives would grant extra XP and inf, and would just be a nice distraction that would make mission feel more personal.
Personalized Missions:
This idea would be based on a combination of random chance and Unlocked content. It would function something like a cross between paper and Tip missions.
After completing a certain amount of MP-objectives in a mission, or maybe via a contact given at a certain level, your character will be "Known" for their powers and thus will have people approaching you to help solve problems "only you" can solve.
The mission name, primary objective, and enemy type would be based on what your character's powers are. So a mission to run into a burning building and stop a gang of hellions would pop up for an ice character, a mission to stop a swarm of clockwork from destroying a power plant would be given to an electric/psy character, things of this nature.
The information would be dropped in mad-libs style where needed, with certain "Types" of missions, similar to paper missions
"Stop Named boss" missions
"Prevent/cause Destruction" missions
"Save Hostage/capture hostage" missions
"use powers on glowy" missions
Ideally, these missions would be given by a random ambush NPC(An NPC runs up to you "OMG, It's $hero, just who I was looking for! and then you click them and receive the mission) contact while out in the city that would approach and let you talk to them, but the Tips system as it stands is just as good for this purpose. -
oh no, you brought him to the forums! now we're all going to die!
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There tends to be a lot of "Hanging about" Rp in this game and the major areas to hang out are Pocket D, Atlas park under the Statue of Atlas, and inside Super/Villain Group bases. Besides that you can still find RP characters flitting about doing stuff, but the "fishing" method is as effective at catching RPers as fishing is at catching fish. Just keep doing as you will and you're certain to get some "random" RP but maybe not as much if you went to the designated fishing spots and dropped your line.
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we all do, X, we all do.
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Quote:So what you're basically saying is you made this thread not with the intent of having a reasonable discussion wherein both sides come to an agreement. But with the desire to shut up the people who disagree with you. Now that they won't shut up. and won't agree with you(though most of the people here have agreed on the issue of "If the auras were flashier/more incarnatey, they'd be fine with the unlocks" and some other things, but let's continue with this thing you have in your head) you're stomping off in a huff with a 'Ya'll just shut up, that's the way it IS". Is that accurate?Originally Posted by Pacur
That's it. I'm done. I cant take this anymore. I stated the reasons plainly, clearly, and concisely. I agreed that some things DO need to change about what things are available exclusively through E-Merits, and should be moved to Astrals, regular merits, or whatever.
Yet on these boards I see people metaphorically beating this issue to death that they want to solo incarnates at the same rate as groups do. Well, THAT IS JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!
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I want the chestpeice to have two eyes and a mouth and be at least the size of roman, Resistance or PPD armor chest peices
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Quote:I'd disagree that racism is only something of the highest atrocity humanity can bring to bear. Ever hear the phrase "a little bit -ist"? that's what's going on here. There's a whole spectrum of racism, genderism,Heterosexism and other types of discrimination that are bred into our culture. These are social concepts and thus nuanced.Originally Posted by Snow Globe
No, but people are calling that picture "racist" and "sexist" which is more comparable to war crimes than someone that has a problem with the pose.
You are seeing terms like racist or sexist( or maybe just discussions about the topic, I can't be sure, is the phrasse "This image is sexist" specifically found in this discussion?) being used. Interpreting it to mean people are accusing David Nakayama of horrible evil, then interpreting that as vitriol.Quote:Calling that picture either racist or sexist diminishes the terms. Racism is something to be avoided, but that picture isn't racist. Being sexist is also something to be avoided, but that picture isn't sexist. Most war crimes are motivated by racism or sexism, and the picture doesn't come close to any of the three terms when properly used. THAT is the vitriol that I'm seeing in this thread.
I believe someone made the much better "Curled up into the fetal position" argument for the "Psychic overload" idea. The fact that a female character is the one shocked and not the male also gives implications. I'd be much more emotionally impacted (and it'd probably make more sense) if the usually tough and grizzled Back-alley brawler was so moved that he was traumatized by the destruction of his home in this image. It'd give a feeling of "Oh crap, things are THAT bad!"Quote:And in the picture, Sister Psyche is turning around, and seeing something that is shocking her. She is probably getting a mind-full of panic from everyone in the area.
waha? where did abelism even come into this conversation?Quote:See, I can understand what YOU are saying here. On the other hand, those that are comparing this with racism, sexism, and prejudice against those with disabilities are the people that I'm disgusted with. I'm hoping that clears things up.
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A: It doesn't look like an "Action" pose to me, since "Action pose" is a phrase that implies doign something instead of... I guess falling down? and if she was looking one way, and then turning to see something else, why would she contort her head and body like that instead of just looking back like a normal person or facing the direction of what's going on and looking actionyQuote:Ok, this picture is hiding her head. I see a good amount of fear in her body. I don't see her "thrusting her breasts" at the viewer. That she is twisting her torso explains everything going on below the neckline. It is an action pose. -
It bears noting that it's not just the skin tone,(though as a person of color who also has been under light, a somewhat lighter-skinend one, at that, I can attest that no amount of flash will change the visual texture of my skin the way the light in this image is supposed to be doing) but the hair texture(it's blowing in the wind like straight hair, when if he had spiky hair as a black man it'd be more like This)
I always thought his hair style was a box version of this look
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hmmm... interesting.. or not
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I'd Go Storm/Dark Defender or Storm/Dark Corrupter
With Storm you can represent a lot of ideas, while some would classify a /Storm/ Character as only storm/sky/wind powered, you really have access to Ice(Freezing rain) Water(Steamy mist, Hurricane) Wind (Gale, tornado, hurricane again) and Lightning(Thunder clap, Lightning storm) Depending on how you color/ explain it, you also have Illusions and/or Invisibility(Steamy mist again) Telekinesis (Gail and Tornado again) and generic healing spells (02 boost) Coupled with this is the idea that witches deal in curses and spells and were known to cause all kinds of trouble indirectly as opposed to pure shooting fireballs
Dark is good because it doesn't look like anything else. While it may be an "element" in the City of world it doesn't have anything similar in the real world. Instead of Fire/Ice/Electricity, you're not just a human flame thrower/Tesla coil/freon... shooter... thingy, you're throwing around magics. And Unlike the others, coloring it different things leads to more varied. Whereas green fire is still green fire, and no matter what you do to energy it still looks like beams of light, yellow dark blasts can be anything since Dark Blasts are open to a lot of interpretation to begin with. The effects and variety in most dark sets works to your advantage as well. -
The Idea of having a choice removed of any kind is considered a negative in the sense that it limits freedom, not that I completely agree with this mindset, just explaining.
I don't find it that troublesome but once or twice I've found myself with no desire to take any powers other than my primary or secondary and being forces to take stealth or some-such to as a filler power and finding it kind of annoying. -
Quote:Well there's very few options available for black/brown players that aren't "White Person with a tan" By very few I mean you can count them on one hand, two(three for women) afros, a pair of cornrows and those not-dreadlocks.Originally Posted by Straenge
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(besides apparently being one of the only black characters that doesn't have an afro or cornrows from what I have seen)
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One thing I would like to see that I think would be a nice use of the new Victorian/Ascension aura technology is stylistic representations of various art types/visuals
Kinda hard to explain but moving(and path, and combat) auras based on
Brush Strokes
Vector arrows(Squiggly lines are seen there as well on Black*Star(the blue-haired kid)
Graffiti Lines
Paint blotches
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