Phillygirl

Tho origin of the thread was a joke on "elitists", it's just supposed to be a fun thread where people can post good times on tf's. They have also had posts in here that point to stuff like shin's speed runs on Champion, so had you posted your runs on the virtue forums they might have said hey look at these guys.

Pro tip when you pop onto another server's forum don't post like an ***. Usually you will have no clue wtf the thread is really about and the dynamics of the people there.

You definatly did post just an on topic one first which i can't imagine any reason for it's deletion. And no i singled out you cause you have a close relationship with the developers. I was making a point you where the obvious choice.


Glad you will come out to stuff eventually, I get your busy.

If your not worried about looking good then i urge you to rethink these "discussion" threads and their possible damage. Hit up the archieves and see the history of CoH PvP forum sections. Start with i13 beta threads and work your way forward.

Also if being visible to the community is important then why where the few cry outs from the base builders in these threads not heard. I see no discussion thread on the base building forums. You kinda sending a message there. Or is it cause a base building question wasn't asked during that zam interview.

Again tons of threads you could read in these active forums and the archieved ones.

I do apreciate an open line of communication we had that with Ocho. My problem is with a redname getting peoples hopes up and dashing them on some jagged rocks yet again. Honestly I am not sure there hasn't been a community rep that hasn't been a voice for PvP yet ex, niv, ocho all where afaik. Problem is they have absolutly no power other than to be our voice.

I made a suggestion one which I think would really be a sincere effort at communication rather than just a post that in all apearences seems very insincere to many. To be blunt it looks like a post to make him look good at the new job. Maybe it's not that and he is sincere but regardless the perception from many is that it's for show. A sincere step would be to come to PvP league nights on freedom, pop into RV on a few servers, and attend various server KB's and stuff like PvP boot camp on victory.

Posts like this are why Ocho never used his Ocho Forum account in the PvP section. All the little fanboi's going to the Dev and Community digests to follow the rednames around a get their noses brown, posting clueless bile in our threads.

PC Guy's posts have been right on and has expressed much of what I have been saying. While I get Z is doing his job, he is not serving the PvP community with these threads. He is damaging it and with it his future reputation with the PvP community.

There are already numerous threads he could have read I would be happy to post them for him. I already suggested he just get in game and talk to PvP'rs directly and just PvP with people.

Regarding the desire for the i12 button well considering the no TS and no HD where done by a dev on his own time I wouldn't hold my breath unless he does that again.

Anyway I am sure he will come post for us to stay on topic as we are not Arcanaville, who's off topic comments seem to be allowed. Ours are probably a bit to close to the truth and are negative. It's convenient to use "stay on topic" when ever you want to but obviously only certain people are held to that. (this is not a poke at Arcanaville or her posts but rather at moderation when it's convenient to you)

^^^ this

Awesome I am glad NC came through with some prizes! Though everyone deserves them both teams have really done a great job

The meet and greet was in October so not that long ago. Also since Z is fresh meat start PM'ing him be loud and get your voice. Let me be frank though having a community rep acknowledge a section of the community is nothing but fluff. It's ultimately up to the dev's and they aren't stupid. They know base builders want stuff and PvP'rs want fixes, it's just not a priority to them and until it is you won't hear squat from them. So in essence having a community rep notice a section of the community may on the surface look like it matters in reality regarding results it still essentually ignored until the dev's decide to "work on it". If this where not the case than Ocho's constent pestering would have resulted in PvP changes and it did not.

I've replied to something like this before at the NY M&G the base building community was mentioned by the dev team several times. Also please do remember they destroyed base raiding so you could stack crap.

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This is how i did it for my masters run with the exception that we impediatly turned on jet packs and stayed in the air away from walls or shelfs where bombs could be.


It seemed really simple *shrug*