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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa

Have we determined that ghosts CANNOT hold things in the CoH Universe?

Plus, you've on opposite corners, a nuclear powered suit and a big cyborg.

Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker

I was going to post with exactly the same topic title. Great minds Gob.

This is as bad as I've ever seen the logout bug. This is my (third) time of trying to post. It's also failing to recognise my remembered PW which was fine yesterday.

Arguably as bad as it's ever been for me - logs me out almost every page, making the fora almost impossible to use. (Some of you may think that's a good thing? )

Originally Posted by SwellGuy

Red's been dead for nearly 6 years. It had its initial launch rush but people kept dwindling away.

All that's left are die hards and VEATs leveling up to 20 to side switch.

It's a bit of a shame but I suspect Praetoria is also not a thriving hive of activity either?

Originally Posted by Fade_Spiral

I think it's fair to say that we're splitting hairs here on the term "self-defense." At least, as it's used in a legal capacity. In that scene, Han's life was *not* in danger. He took the initiative and killed Greedo because he knew that Greedo would run him in to Jabba to collect the bounty.

You can reasonably infer that Han's life would be in danger at a later time after that scene (at Jabba's discretion, no doubt), but in the Mos Eisley Cantina there was no mortal threat. He fired first to prevent being caught and turned in. This is not the same thing as self-defense.

This was summed up beautifully here:



By altering the scene the way Lucas did, he fundamentally altered both of the characters in that scene. This, in turn, made them inconsistent with their own natures. Greedo was collecting a bounty; Unless he's the sloppiest bounty hunter in history, I don't think he'd be in the habit of opening fire on bounties in crowded, public cantinas. Not to mention, being so unprepared as to not anticipate that his target would be armed and willing to fight. These are things he would, as a professional bounty hunter, expect to be just around the corner (so to speak). This is especially true when you consider that he had to know something of Han's reputation, both as a smuggler and as a wanted man, before taking the job in the first place. The original presentation of how this scene unfolded was perfect for the characters involved: Han got the drop on Greedo and killed him. He even used their existing conversation as a distraction while he readied his blaster. That is consistent with what a charismatic scoundrel would do, given those circumstances. End of issue.

When this scene took place in the film, Han was (at that point) still very much the mercenary that Leia accused him of being later on. The audience is already given the impression that he's at least somewhat devious. The more important storytelling aspect of this, as it's revealed during the unfolding of the remaining films in the original trilogy, is that we see him gradually change his values and attitude about who he is and where his alliances/loyalties lie. By the end of Episode IV, he's sticking around (despite his initial expression that he wouldn't when he was collecting his reward on Alderaan, just before the assault on the Death Star) and actively helping the Rebel Alliance fight the Empire. It's not an extreme change, or all-encompassing, but it's subtle enough that we see it continue to happen as Episodes V and VI play out. This is an excellent example of characterization.

This was supplemented very well by the remainder of the cast, too. The actors' chemistry on-set, and the fact that they had proper direction the entire time, helped shape the dynamic that we've all come to love in the films. There's humor, sadness, seriousness, hope, joy, fear, etc. that surfaces time and time again. Lucas had other directors, and even some of the cast, challenging his decisions on-set at the time. This is, ultimately, why the cast worked so well together in their character portrayals. We didn't see this in Episodes 1 - 3, and the direction was so absent that even seasoned/respected/liked celebrities came off awkward and shallowly-presented. After all, by that point, who's going to say "No" to George Lucas?

Don't fall into the trap that Jar Jar is what's wrong with Episodes 1 - 3. That "material" (if it can even be called that) is afflicted by a much deeper problem than an annoying presence on-screen. In fact, I'd even argue that mentioning Jar Jar at all only shows how little attention was a) paid to the value of the original films and b) what is actually wrong with the newer films, as a whole.

But I digress. I've prattled on long enough as it is ...

Originally Posted by Cobalt Azurean

He'll be removed in i23.

Originally Posted by Horusaurus

Seeing as Posi made a post stating that Statesman is in fact dead and they're currently in the works of removing him from various parts of the game...yeah...

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

By the way, something I22 suggests that this could all be some kind of plot.

Originally Posted by Forbin_Project

I'm made of rubber and your made of glue and whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.

Originally Posted by SuperOz

That's probably because Wade got help noone else in the entire game (this includes Recluse, all the Patrons, even Emperor Cole and Prometheus) gets:

The power of deus ex machina. He knows stuff noone else knows, he has access to things noone else does because the writing lets him so he can kill Statesman.

That's not good planning, it's just clumsy writing. 'I can defeat you because I have this thing that just happened to be here all the time! Ta-da!'


S.

Originally Posted by lulipop

jet turbine (haven't you seen the incredibles?!)
those tricky, tricky capes.

Originally Posted by Lulipop

Awww. I'll ask a friend of mine to lend you his ear then -

Zhang He he is the ear for your feelings!

Originally Posted by Protonic_Flux

As long as there are good storys to tell about Paragon City the game will have life in it.

There is finally, one other MMO that has the storytelling ability that this one has.

However a bunch of drunking half dead monkeys appear to be doing the coding for that MMO, so it may end up dead before it's even had a chance to catch on.

City of Heroes will always have a big place in my heart. It's nowhere near the first MMO I've played, but it has been the best.

Originally Posted by Smersh

This is a damned dirty lie.

Saying "Han shot first" would indicate that more than one shot was fired.

Han shot. The end.