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I agree that Theft of Essence +% for End is pretty vital to making Dark Regeneration less of an End hog.
I'm, however, less of a fan of OG than Rangle is. I respec'd out of it and haven't looked back. Largely depends on if you mind the goons wondering out of melee range or not. If you have an epic Immob, might not be much of an issue. I will admit it does work to reduce incoming damage from minions, except you may have to move around more than usual to get them back in melee range. Largely it comes down to your personal preference. -
Raditaion Armor/Aura and Radiation Melee keep coming up over the years. Last time there was an open Q&A about it (a few months back) I asked about Rad Melee and was told they looked at it but it didn't make it to the top of their list for sets to develope. Although Rad Armor wasn't specifically mentioned at that time, I'm guessing it's in the same boat.
I'd love to see both Rad Armor and Rad Melee (see sig) as power sets, but it doesn't look we'll see them anytime soon.
As for your concept it looks interesting and I agree it probably wouldn't be that ideal of a set for a Tank. I think you'll find it crosses the line a little too much into the level and range of debuffing that other AT's currently have. So, there might be some issues there, other than that, nice work, interesting concept. -
Set still seems a bit slow on cycle times, for me, but overall I'm ejoying it on my Brute and on the few Tanks I have it on it seems like a good set and nice alternative to SS. I've got a couple Axers out there leveled to 50 and I think War Mace is probably the better choice now. I've been meaning to work on my Macers, but other concepts/ideas/builds keep getting put in front of it....
You can now choose from several different weapon looks (I like the War Hammer, and Morganstern) and add some color variation, so it won't look like everyone else's Mace, which is nice. Plus it gives a satisfying crunching sound when you bring justice to your foes.
Anyways, pretty much what everyone else has said. It's a good set now (unless of course you're not into weapons). -
To the OP, all three are fun.
Unlike Rowdy's experience, I've enjoyed playing my Electric Tanks very much (am leveling an Elect/SS atm). I have an Elect/Fire I build for speed and it's a nice alternative to going for the standard softcapping (That said, either build will become even more of a combat monster if softcapped). The uniqueness of Electric Armor is speed and the ability to drain/recover Endurance from your opponents (in a Resistance Set). And, sadly, no Toxic Resistance at all. So, if you're looking for something to fight Toxic heavy foes, then Electric is probably not a good match for you. Also Electric's KB/KD Resist is based on the toon being on the ground, so if you like to jump around or teleport this could be an issue.
Boiling down the differences in the sets:
Fire/SS = "More" (Rage + Fiery Embrace) damage and knockdown/knockback, and a fast cycling heal, no Psi Resist
Electric/SS = Knockdown/knockback, the ability to build faster recharge into Powers, End Drain opponents, Higher S/L Resist, no Toxic Resist, Psi Resist.
Electric/Fire = Heavy AoE, ability to build faster recharge into Powers, End Drain opponents, Higher S/L Resist, no Toxic Resist, Psi Resist
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Hi all,
Sorry it's been so long since the initial post, I'm still working out some of the details/surprises and didn't want to indicate any until I knew a bit more. As these things go the finer points are still up in the air (I'm hoping they land soon).
Here's some ideas: (prizes still to be determined, but will probably be "Freeze" based or "Tanker Friendly").
1) Best concept toon (best use of powers, colors, costume to convey the "Summer Freeze" theme). So, yeah, a costume contest.
2) Surprise reward if the Spirit of Tanking favors us.
3) Participation reward.
I'm still looking for a good "close to the theme" TF to run.
If you're an Ice Melee'r don't forget to spam Ice Patch when we gather, also drop Ice Storm if you have Arctic Mastery.
More info to follow
Also of note this TTJ will mark our one year anniversary here on Justice!!! Great job all!!
Also, also, this will be a P.E.R.C. Event! -
Sign me up! And, let me know how I can help out.
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Interesting concept, but as others have stated I didn't think the damage would apply to an ally. Are you going to be testing this? If so, I'd love to be there when you try the tactic. Let me know and I'll do my best to help out/be there.
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Hi Myrm,
1) I haven't read the whole thread, it's too long and I'm tired/lazy after work.
2) I currently lead raids on Justice
3) I love this idea
a) A Willpower Tank with heavy regen 100pts per sec+ with Self Heal (a pet project of mine) could probably take the Hami Taunter Roll (may need additional Tanks with Medicine Pool to help when the Green Mitos debuff Regen). May need to rotate Taunting Tanks.
b) Yellow Mitos, would fall to Tanks Meleeing, would need some Tanks to soak Yellow Ranged Damage (EoEs and High Regen and/or fast heals would be enough)
c) Green Mitos, Possibly the hardest to deal with due to the need to hold first before other damage applies. SSer's with additional hold procs in KoB and any Tanks with an ancillary hold would work once stacked.
d) Blue Mitos, not particularly hardy when attacked at range. I don't think they would be a big problem once the RANGED only damage starts rolling in.
Atm I have an Ice/Fire/Pyre Tank in Hami range, willing to help, but not sure of this toon for a raiding Tank. Willing to work on getting a different toon in range depending on when you want to try this.
Send me a tell in game or email me @Warboss. I'd like to offer help, ideas and support on this. -
Quote:I would. Electric/Fire Tanks are extremely fun to play! If you like AoE, you'll like this combo!Originally Posted by Boomtomic
Would anyone recommend Fire as the secondary pairing with electric armor? Yes, stone and electric do look like a perfect match but stone is so single target. Paired with fire, the +recharge in electric would give fire pretty constant Fire Sword Circle along with Combustion (And Fire Ball if you if you went Pyre mastery) for those pesky mobs. Plus fire does have some pretty powerful single target attacks with decent recharge speeds along with fire DoT. Fire doesn't have KD though. Not a perfect match but a pretty good one, though i am not an expert on these build mechanics and such i just play with whatever looks fun, what do you guys think?
If you want to add some KD there's always Kinetic Combat's KD Proc (I have that slotted in Scorch on my Fire/Fire/Pyre Tank and maybe in Fire Sword too...) which would provide some mitigation (Scorch cycles pretty darn fast, so it seems to proc quite often). You could also slot it in any other Single Target attack, which would provide you with 1 of 4 KinCmbts, which would set you up for a set of 4, which would provide additional S/L Defense (slot in a min of 3 Powers and you'll get an additional 11.75% S/L Defense + Weave + CJ and you're already around 20% S/L Defense) .
I built my Electric/Fire with the Presence Power Pool and for speed (FSC is up every 5 seconds) for thematic reasons, but no reason not to go with Pyre and really crank up the damage! -
Quote:Well technically...you don't "have it all" as you have to use either a pool power or IOs for KB protection, there is no Endurance Recovery mechanism/power in set and oddly enough you can skip two of the sets "defining" Powers (Oppressive Gloom and Cloak of Fear) without any real impact on the build.Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
True, you never can have it all... unless you roll Dark Armor. XD
I will concede that the set is well suited for IOing and is relatively easy to patch its shortcomings. And that once you get the Defenses up, holes patched and Dark Regeneration's End bite handled, Dark Tanks are pretty impressive.
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Quote:"You are Grounded and naturally very resistant to Energy and Negative Energy damage. You also have added resistance to Endurance Drain effects. Additionally, Grounded provides Immobilize and Knockback protection, but only applies when you are near the ground. This power is always on and costs no Endurance."Originally Posted by DSorrow
As for what's skippable, out of Elec the only thing I'd actually skip is Power Surge (mainly because I don't like the crash) and maybe even Grounded, but it provides a good chunk of NE resistance.
I can see the temptation to skip Grounded and choose something else, but it provides more that just KB and NE Resist. It also provides Immobile Resist and Endurance Drain Resist (86.5%). A nice number for a Power that only requires the slot it comes with to be effective (no Endurance to run, and can mule in IO Sets if need be for bonuses).
I agree that Power Surge is completely skippable. And, for the same reason, I don't like the crash either.
Add a Winter's Gift Slow Resist Unique and it will help prevent the Tank from being slowed down, a big killer of Electric Tanks.
Lightning Reflexes adds an additional 20% Recharge bonus for all your powers, adds additional Resist Effects (40%), and it too only requires the single slot it comes with. So, another great power to take
Recently there's been a great deal of Electric Armor threads, check here for more links and discussions. One of the threads even gets into the Defense vs the "more speed" discussions.
Any of the sets that will provide enough single target attacks to slot Kin Combat in would be good choices. And Stone Melee (as previously mentioned) is good for it's KD heavy, damage mitigation.
Beyond that, look at the threads, try a few builds on Mids, and enjoy the set. I very much enjoy running my Electric Tanks, the only thing is that darn Toxic hole...oh well, can't have it all! -
I leveled one to 50 sometime ago, and it was one hellova' ride. Rage + Fiery Aura just = win! I think I had so much fun with it I rolled another...can't remember where I which server I hid that one on...
I've got my eye on a Electric/SS now...Which is pretty much Rangles fault, but that's a different thread.
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Hi Sailboat,
Consider it done! The 4th TT for September will be on Gaurdian (whew, I need to start keeping a calander just for TTs, lol!)!
September's TTs will be:
Champion on the 1st Tuesday
Justice on the 2nd Tuesday
Freedom on the 3rd Tuesday
Gaurdian on the 4th Tuesday
In October, or there abouts, we'll have the "Fall Harvest" theme for TTJ. -
Did we run Hess/Moonfire last time on Justice or was that on one of the other servers? Manti would be good, of course they all are.
Yeah I think Indigo is the one that give the Knives Arc, so if anyone has that we can run it. Sister Pysche might be pretty fun too with all (or a great deal of) Ice Tanks.
LSK, you can always adjust one of your costumes to look like "cold fire" for the event...
I'm still working out the particulars of the "Summer Freeze" TTJ event, so check that thread for more info and updates on what's going on. -
We had a great turn out on Liberty last night. With five full team, a Striga TF, an AV team and 3 mission teams the villains of Liberty didn't stand a chance!
Thank you Liberty for being such a great host! We'll be back again there soon! -
Hi all,
Thank you Liberty for such a great Tanker Tuesday turn out!! We had a great time and were able to field five teams!!!!! So, all-in-all very successful event. I'd like give special thanks to all who lead teams last night and to all the players (new and hard core vets who follow the tour) for coming to the event. I had a great time running with the PI radio team I was on and overall, from the chat on TankHQ, it sounded like everyone else did as well.
Thanks again Liberty for mustering the troops/Tanks, we'll see you again soon!
Don't forget the original TT is August 3rd on Champion! See ya' all there!!
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Tanker Tuesday reloads to Liberty tonight! Come join us in the last TT of July! See ya' there!!
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Tanker Tuesday Reloads to Liberty is a little less than an hour. Get your Tank on!!
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I've got an Ice/Stone or a Dark/Icer to bring, I'll have to check in and see which one I'll be running that night.
I'm thinking about building a FrostFire AE mission for the event, anyone have any other ideas for TFs or Trials to run? -
Papa Slade, cool, we'll be glad to have you at those events.
Rangle, I won't change my mind, but am having trouble coming up with a good TF for the "Freeze" theme... The only thing that comes to mind is FrostFire...
Redlynne, I was going to answer "Rare" I don't usually get the pleasure of seeing let alone teaming with two Ice Tanks, but I like your answer better.
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Hi all,
It's hard to believe but July is almost over (Liberty next week for the last TT of July) and we've already filled up our "Reload slots" for next month!
Here's the August TTs
1st Tuesday on Champion, the home of Tanker Tuesdays
2nd Tuesday, Justice, this will be PERC event and more info to follow soon
3rd Tuesday, Freedom
4th Tuesday, Protector
5th Tuesday, Virtue
See ya' all soon!
Thank you all for such a strong response to our events! Keep Tanking and keep the squishies safe!!
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Np, glad to help. And we can arrange another Reload to Virtue. Next week is Liberty and Protector got their request in before yours. Fortunately it looks like August has 5 Tuesdays, so we'll see you on the 30th.
If you could, please talk the event up in your servers channels so we can get a good turn out. -
Hi Strifenight,
There was a bunch of postings and discussions on Electric Tank builds a few weeks back (maybe a bit longer). Check this link and within that thread there are a few more links to Electric Armor builds and playing philosophies. Read up on those and see what you think. There are even some builds there. If that dosne't help post back here with your questions and we'll help out as much as we can.
Here's another one to look at, although not Elect/Elect, it does have a good discussion on Electric Armor. -
Hi all,
Thanks for such a great response! We look forward to 27th! No, worries, we run mission teams as-well-as Task Forces and Trials, so there should be something for everyone to do.
Citadel and Manti are fun TFs to run with all Tanks and iircc they don't take too long, so those might be good choices this time around. If anyone is interested in leading a TF, radio team, or has AVs that they want to run either post here or shoot me an email.
Don't forget to join TankHQ or Tankers channel for TT postings as well as general Tank talk Q&A and other channel mayhem (TankHQ tends to get the most TT chat, although events are posted on both channels).
See you all in a week!
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Just a little over a week until Tanker Tuesdays returns to Liberty! If you don't already have a Tank, now's the time to roll one up! If you've already got one, bring it along for the all Tanker mayhem.
Join either TankHQ or Tankers channels for more Tank talk, Tank chat and Tanker Tuesday postings.
See you all soon!