NightshadeLegree
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Hmm. Asian visual style, 'action' combat and creepy child race with animal ears...
Oh no... it's TERA all over again.
I'll just leave this here...
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Quote:Alternatively, maybe they're just taking time to think about what they're going to say.Originally Posted by shadow35
Their reputation is in the toilet. I just question that they're so far removed from us globally and could care less about the west anyway to the point that they may never even recognize what is going on here. I mean, otherwise they would have stepped up to the microphone long ago, you know? Their whole credo seems to be "slash ignore."
NCsoft haven't written off the west as a market for new titles - Wildstar and Blade & Soul are proof of that. Whilst City of Heroes is no longer part of their business plan, I'm sure that getting a ton of bad publicity from the shutdown wasn't part of the plan either. if they care at all about their public image, and they will, they'll have to be asking themselves how they come out of this without doing lasting damage to their reputation in the west.
As it stands, the way they're shutting down CoH will hang over their other western titles like a bad smell for years to come. Not Guild Wars 2 - that's a big enough name to survive on its own, but their other titles could suffer from a loss of confidence.
So their silence might only mean that they're picking their next words carefully, if only to avoid pouring more fuel on the fire. -
Roll a new alt, and think of them not as your 'last' alt, but your 'next' alt.
I went back into the game with the mindset of this being the final farewell tour, and tried to rush around (mostly on Test as I'm not currently VIP) trying to see the things I hadn't seen. But it didn't work - it was so much not my typical playstyle that it was a constant reminder of the impending shutdown, and very demoralising.
So I said to hell with it, and went back to the live servers, and jumped around on those of my characters I have unlocked, doing new story arcs, old story arcs or just messing about when the mood took me.
I've even found myself making notes of new character names and concepts for... later...
Maybe it's denial (alright, there's little 'maybe' about it) and if we're still in this position at the start of November perhaps I'll look at it differently, but for now I'd say just play as you always would. There'll be time enough to dwell on the worst case scenario later on... -
I notice that the main NCsoft website has been redone, listing B&S and Wildstar, along with Aion, Lineage 2, Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2. City of Heroes appears to have been entirely removed.
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Quote:Negative campaigning will do nothing except make us look bitter and petulant - the 'City of Children' that ill informed blogger wrote about.Originally Posted by Atlantea
Yeah. I think it's about time for some energy to be spent on negative campaigning against this game and NCSoft.
So far the SaveCoH campaign has hit all the right notes - I'm frankly astounded that any MMO community could stay as relatively 'on message' as this one has. With no new info coming from Ncsoft about OUR game it's going to be tempting to latch onto other titles to have some way to express ourselves, but I think it'd be a mistake.
If it all comes to nothing, then we can spend the next decade or so reminding people of what NCsoft did. But until then, as much as I've had to bite my own tongue a few times, I think the cooler heads are right and we shouldn't give up the moral high ground for the short term satisfaction of going negative. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
I know someone else has posted an alternate download link, but I just woke up so I'm not sure offhand where it is.That was confirmed as working a day or two ago, I believe.Quote:Originally Posted by Father Xmas
This ftp link seems to work.
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Quote:I still recall one night running with an all Mastermind team that started at 3am. Oranbega looks really trippy when you're half asleep.Originally Posted by katnap
Mmm 2 am GMT, bit late for me being in England, however the 5pm saturday event looks good, I'll be there.
Of course, you could argue that you don't need to be awake to run in an all MM team
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A really good read that says a lot about the game and the community.
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Quote:The SaveCoH campaign needs these people. The more support CoH gathers from past players (who might come back) and players of other MMOs then the wider the story spreads.Originally Posted by SteelRat
Whether or not you like the fact that a large proportion of the SaveCoH comments are coming from people who are saying "I really used to like playing CoH. I really don't want it shut down" rather than "I love playing CoH. I don't want to lose it". It might not do US any good to see this trend, but unfortunately there's an awful lot of truth in it.
The worst thing that could have happened in the first few days of the campaign would have been if the comments on Massively etc had been mostly variations on:
"Meh, never played it, so who cares."
"I didn't like it anyway."
"Wait? That game was still going? I thought it shut years ago."
I've seen plenty of shutdown announcements on Massively, and usually it's a one day story, accompanied by shrugs. This is the first time I've seen wide support from the broader MMO community. At the moment CoH needs all the friends it can get, be they current players, former players, or anyone else. -
My original intent was to run one more hero and one more villain on a farewell tour, but... sticking with only one or two characters was so contrary to my usual alt-happy playing style, and such a constant depressing reminder of the impending shutdown, that I decided to just play as normal. Much more enjoyable.
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No idea, but now I want Malta to get invisible black helicopters.
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Quote:Issue 24 would have unlocked fly for Kheldians?!?!Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Yea. Too bad it took so long to do something as simple as unlock fly and tport pools for Khels. But, yes, at least I saw it happen.
Dammit! I've always wanted hover for my Warshade, and now they were going to give us it and...
Oh that really is pouring salt in the wound
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Quote:They're not just doing it for traffic. Some of the Massively staff are big fans of CoH and the site has been giving the ongoing story superb coverage. Indeed, the efforts to save CoH have been heading up their banner headlines at the top of the main page for almost a week now.Originally Posted by FlyingCodeMonkey
Saw that. Can't tell if they're trying to help or just generate some traffic. On one hand it's another indicator of support for the game. On the other hand, it just invites commentary from corporate apologists who assume by default that an unpopular decision nevertheless must have some sound basis in finances.
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Quote:QFT. So long as the store remains locked it's possible - however unlikely - that the game could return to normal, whether under NCsoft or elsewhere. Unlocking it would definitely... complicate... any attempts to maintain the game in its current form.Originally Posted by Peregrine_Falcon
"Unlock the Store for the last 2/1 Months."
Zwillinger said that they don't want to do this: "Just in case." Just in case of what? I don't know. Perhaps it has something to do with the talks that former Paragon management is in with NCSoft investors.
If CoH was going to end I'd have thought it would have done so a few years ago. Around I13-I15 there was, as I recall, almost constant speculation on the forums about the game being on its last legs... then Going Rogue was announced
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Quote:Massively has been superb. It's been my first stop for MMO news for a long time because of the quality of its coverage, and they're really doing us proud now.Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
i think one of the few news places thats actually made good coverage regarding whats happening is massively because they have also been the most proactive in trying to research/keep track of whats going on.
The articles on other sites may not always be saying what they want, but at least they're saying something, and giving us the opportunity to keep the discussion going on sites where CoH is otherwise seldom a topic.
To quote Oscar Wilde "There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." -
Atlas 17
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Soooo... off to Freedom next?
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Amazing image. Anyone else immediately reminded of the final scene of the original CoH trailer?
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Quote:No.Originally Posted by CatMan
Can you think of one example of a game they closed which they have sold off?
Put like that I can agree with your reasoning, even if it does seem pointlessly petty and even cruel. It's nice to think that if they're serious about refocusing on asian markets they'd be willing to consider selling off a property that has been proven to have no impact there... but... well, we shall see. -
Yes, in an instant.
I solo a lot, but even so I'd miss the buzz of an evening of random PUG hopping on Freedom, or the ocassional TF, and just the sense of the world being alive with other heroes and villains, but I'd definitely play a future CoH game.
I've long since drifted away from reading almost any Marvel and DC comics, but this is one comic book world I'll really miss, so yeah, I'd happily revisit it. -
Quote:Leaving aside my doubts about the source for a moment, I just don't buy into this reasoning. If NCsoft had any concern about retaining CoH players as customers they'd have went about this differently. If they do think that they're going to lure people over to GW2 or (lol) Aion by killing the game, wiping out Paragon Studio in a day and sitting on the IP then they're even more out of touch than I'd have thought.Originally Posted by CatMan
Would a different investor and owner have handled the closure better? Who knows. Given NCSoft's history with closing Western MMOs and retaining the IP, we should not be terribly surprised by their action nor should we expect that they will sell the IP to anyone. While some people fault UnSub for whatever their reasons, his analysis of what we can expect from NCSoft is most likely accurate: They won't sell the IP if it means losing what remains of the CoH/V customers who may buy in to other NCSoft games to a competitor.
Indeed, I think the anger we've seen directed at NCsoft so far will get even worse if and when they start offering players 'rewards' to go to their other games. -
Quote:I have to agree with this. We don't know what may or may not be going on behind closed doors and the last thing I think anyone wants is to queer the pitch by forcing NCsoft onto the defensive, or scare off potential investors with the spectre of them being dragged into litigation.Originally Posted by Brillig
have you considered what raising the spectre of a lawsuit will do to people who might be interested in acquiring CoH?
No question of it, but the amount of money some people have invested into SL, and taken out of it, is far greater than what any player has put into CoH. If SL ever goes down then yes, it will go down in an absolute storm of lawsuits.Quote:The closest one I can think of is Second Life, which explicitly grants full IP to its users for everything they create. (Shutting Second Life down would create a Zombie Lawyer Apocalypse, I'm sure.) -
I'll miss the combat. I'm about as far from being a min-maxer as you can get, but in CoH I'd still spend time tweaking my character builds, doing some light number crunching my my Claws/SR scrapper to give her the perfect attack chain...
(I never did quite finish that. Played her the other night on Test and gah... her end use is still ridiculously out of control.)
Related to that I'll miss the sheer volume and variety of powersets, the fact that they all play differently and were all viable, and the fact that there were literally hundreds of possible combinations of class and primary/secondary to choose from.
And finally, also related, that no matter how powerful your character was, you could push the difficulty settings to deliver as much or as little of a challenge as you wanted. Running Nightshade through missions set +0/x8 was just too much fun. -
It's a reasonably persuasive argument you're making, and I don't doubt that if NCsoft decided that they'd get a better return on money invested in GW2 rather than in CoH that's what they'd do. Business is business, and all that.
I'm not quite ready to burn NCSoft in effigy (or GW2, by association.) For me it will all come down to one thing: if a serious offer is made for CoH by another investor and NCsoft come to an agreement all (perhaps almost all) will be forgiven. If a serious offer is made and NCsoft decide they'd rather just sit on the IP and let it rot then I will never touch them, or anything to do with them, ever again. -
After years of refusing to have anything to do with social media I have dusted off my Facebook login to 'like' and 'recommend' and... oh who am I kidding, I've no idea what it is I'm doing, I just press buttons.
TonyV et al, you're doing great. The story is getting a LOT more and wider coverage than I'd have expected.