New Dawn

You'd still fail to tank and when we have a merged server list I will if we get free transfers come over and show you. Tanking is not about being able to swim somewhere up to the neck in mobs and live to tell about it. You're merely being a corrupter. You don't acquire the threat level for tanking, you merely raise your own and other peoples, potentially other tankers survivability. If your survivability is low in teams then perhaps you should look at them, look at what powers they have and offer them all opportunity to use them. I as a buffer can buff people but I find that some people still try to go beyond the limitations of those that can help them.

If I have to focus too long on one person, wait it don't happen, I let idiots die, first rule of empathy.

A ideal example of fairness achieved would be where an Ice Melee would expect to go upto someone in PvP who has a better attack chain and -rechg them to the point that their attack chain is no better and all is fair.

Yeah Mind controllers can probably control upto 70ish mobs at a time and only aggro 17. I would always as a Dark Tank try for no more than 17 despite anything, same with Icetanks.

One thing a Fire/Dark corrupter doesn't do is tank. It would need to nigh on guarantee keep aggro off of other people whilst they attack the mobs you would be debuffing, fearing etc. What this tells me is that if I was on my Firetank and you were playing your Fire/Dark corrupter with the inside knowledge of Firetanks then I should be able to tank it easy. On my own and I have done ITF mishes on a x8 setting this morning to feel the pain of no support (soloed GW to get to them using one insp I think) and it represented a challenge. I like challenges, being solo x8 won't give me the feeling of the ambushes but then I am without team mates. It gives me an idea of how to move with lack of the right support say someone like your Fire/Dark would make. I play with taunt duration and presence. Something in away makes me want my old burn back but still end result remains same I think.

There are key members in the team who its imperative to keep attacks off of so that they do not get affected by controls, embroiled in their own personal battles and able to concentrate on looking out for the whole of their team whilst getting a couple of preferably aoes out. If they're not able to help then it can be like taking the bottom middle card from the bottom of a pyramid of cards.

Erm, it's aggro sharing scrapper heavy team and since you were the last one standing..perhaps you or the scrappers didn't do a good job of turning the Novas cone attacks or keep over atleast an AoEs distance away from the team. I know it, hard anyway because despite a football fields worth of clear space one side of a group someone has to hurdle over to the otherside straight into the perception range of mobs the team doesn't need right now...(and so long herd pulling was invented. I blame all the other ATs.)

I wouldn't bother.

Break this down, to what was happening? Was the Blaster in mobs first knockin his socks off? You still have to preserve the survivability of members of the team that may require you. At a point where they can handle the group themselves you could shoot off and ready the next group.

Also if its tanking Rommie and you lose aggro what is in your taunt slotting? I would expect -rechg from negative energy attacks.

From the initial outset of the game Scrappers could/should of been the best ones to tackle AVs. Now there was a little confusion a few years ago with people thinking a tanker was needed but now everyone and their mum in the scrapper section can probably solo a AV(s) let alone be able to tank one (if they took confront). Confront would keep 2 AVs but your attack chain would be sacrificed.

Now tankers are generally better at tanking the AV, or more than two, taking all the mobs, pets, taking secondary effects but initially they were there to halve what the team had to deal with, keep mobs in debuff areas, tight for aoes and now some with some powerful slotting will solo an AV, just not as quick as some scrappers might as scrappers should be more about leading in DPS than keeping aggro off of the team.

So no I won't find it odd. No scrapper would have to step in for my tanks but my scrappers have had to step in for other peoples. I will praise other people for their intentions rather than their successes. Everyone in my book should have the freedom to work things out for themselves. People can fail but it is how they fail that matters.

Work this out, 2006, Invuln tank, SO build. No fight pool, RV, Ghost Widow, Scirroco and Mako in melee for upto 12-15 mins, no outside help from other people and no interference from anyone or other npcs. No scrapper is going to compete with that as far as I can ever see.

Edit:2006

I often see Quasar in most peoples human forms and what is normally always missing is Gravimetric Snare. A power I think is all too lacking ingame (especially if trying to get an all kheld stf done). Losing a shield is to me a better option.

So you all started the TF at 48 and didn't lvl during it? Buffs would be better than debuffs as debuffs pretty much get resisted to nought. It would be doable for 8*48s but like you say a very good team mix. 2*lvl50s duo'd it I believe so why not.

If its toxic, just throw a Firetank at it.

I think a BS or Kat/Elec would do it hitting the gens and Scrappers confront is reliable. I tanked 2 lvl 54s with confront at the same time not losing any aggro, if I went to a 3rd AV I wouldn't of had enough taunt to recharge. When it comes to LR he is keepable with confront so no worries there. Leadership pool taunts are too mickey mouse.