Nethergoat

didn't a case like that lead to a change in our own logoff protocal?

I have dim memories from the dawn of time....

Yes they did.

=D

Your loss.


Sounds great, can't wait to check it out!

The competitors in the market are the people on the same team.
Sellers are competing with other sellers to offer goods at the lowest price so they can get the sale, buyers are competing with other buyers to get what they want by making the highest current bid without spending more than they'd like.

Every market sale is the result of a cooperative effort between the buyer and seller to arrive at a mutually acceptable price. There is no loser in any transaction. The seller got what they felt was a fair price, the buyer paid what they wanted to pay.*

That's the dirty little secret of the market.

If you must draw an in-game parallel, it's more Rikti War Zone than Recluse's Victory.

Bid sniping has a specific meaning, and that isn't it.
That's just paying more because you want it more...and if you think that's some kind of unfair market voodoo I can't help you.

That's a shark attacking another shark, not a shark attacking some tourist wading into the surf.
The result of 'attacking' a niche is a narrowing of profit margins, meaning that sellers of raw materials make more and buyers pay less.

I thought you were worried about "the little guy"?
All those sharks are competing with each other to deliver more value to 'the little guy' than their competitors, because they want that sale.




* barring typos or other mishaps

I have IRL friends I game with, but I knew them long before there was even an internet.

I've made a ton of internet friends over the years in various communities, but have only met a few of them IRL.

given the freefall their prices have been undergoing (the only benefit of their ubiquity in Atlas is I can watch their 'last 5' over the course of a few days) I'd say "hardly anyone".

=P

I keep all mine in a fire pit in the 88's base.

=P

BUUUUT seriously folks...


Mostly my characters keep whatever they make. I'll use gleemail if someone 'poor' wants something expensive, but that's about it. Over the course of the week most of my market mules fluctuate between 100m-1.5b, then Sunday night I skim a billion off the top and gleemail it to my main 88'er to feed the furnace.

$14.95 in 2010 dollars is worth less than $14.95 in 2004 dollars.
Bumping the sub fee isn't a realistic option, ergo they need to find other ways to juice profits and stay in business.
Voila, boosters!

But by all means keep enjoying your rent controlled sub fee.
I don't mind subsidizing the boosterphobic with my purchases from the NC Store- the more players the merrier!

So when I list something for 5 million and it sells for 20 I'm being ganked by the buyer?

Huh, interesting.

The market is a cooperative environment, a tool that brings together buyers and sellers and creates a neutral space for the exchange of goods.

Your PvP analogy is pure fail.

I'm curious, how exactly would one go about "sniping" a bid in this game?
Because there are no timers in the AH.


So you think when our archetypal n00b wanders into Wentworths and crazy people pay them 200k for a piece of common tech salvage they're going to NERDRAGE out and vendor everything they get henceforth?

You have some really strange notions of how things work. I'm beginning to suspect you don't have a very strong understanding of markets in general.

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*hooves up*

My God, is that hack still churning out D&D sharecropper fiction?

I'll bet yer right!


GRRRR!

>:e

My ar/dev blaster invested almost his entire bankroll in low level Numina's procs quite a while back, it was one of my gigs where I just blanketed 10 or so levels with stacks of bids and walked away.

Checked back after a suitable soak and had a lot of winners. I was getting them for 50-90m and at the time they were selling crafted for 150m+ with 0 generally for sale (the Goat's telltale sign of an underpriced niche.

So I crafted up a whole bunch of these guys and, where appropriate, highballed my listing price at 200m.

Shortly thereafter A-merits came along and goosed supply quite a bit, leaving me with a bunch of overpriced junk, about half of what I listed.

I'm leaving it there for now, hoping that I19 will divert the masses from farming A-merits, at least long enough to clear out my inventory without eating a giant loss.

WEEP FOR ME, CASUAL GAMERS! WEEP FOR ME, THAT I MIGHT DRINK YOUR TEARS IN MY TIME OF CRISIS!

Flipping provides a valuable public service.
There's nothing "ambiguous" about it, it is an unalloyed good.

I think he was talking about total supply, which flippers don't really have a say in.

Flippers absolutely increase the supply of whatever on the market, by encouraging listings and recirculating stock. But as for creation of goods, as with creation of inf, that's in the hands of the players.

any 'pimped out' brute worth the name would be able to /e flashdance at the aggro cap while its player went out for a drink.

=P

I agree, 2b should be the big one but they could also have badges for 1m, 10m, 100m, etc. Not many people would want to burn 2b on all their characters, but you could entice them to burn lesser amount across their stable with cool enough titles. =)

Again, we get tons of badges for doing basically nothing (logging in at certain times, wandering over markers on the way to missions, etc etc).

Or do you consider exploration badges and anniversary/event badges "a bit of an overkill" too?

Prestige conversion badges would be a good way to encourage burning inf, something the game needs and which everyone would benefit from.

There we go.

I'm stealing that one the next time this topic comes back around.

=)

genius.