Nanolathe

I completely agree that KB is a generally undesirable effect for people who want to maximise killing and raking up speed runs of various missions/TFs/SFs. My rebuttle to that is "Do I really want to play with people, to whom my concept of fun (mercilessly throwing a Mob over a hand-rail into the hard concrete below and laughing at his rogdolling body 50ft away) is so totally alien?

Id rather not be on a team that I know doesn't understand the meaning of MY fun. Is that selfish? Yes. Do I care? No.

Firstly, coming here and posting is a perfectly valid way of trying to communicate with the Developers. Time and time again we have been told that the Devs do read the threads and take valuable information from threads. An issue only becomes a "known issue" if enough people are talking about it. Forum posts add to that number and so help the Devs gauge the severity of the problem, or perceived problem, whichever is applicable.

Second, I agree that you came here with the intent to help. However the issue is not with our Macro set-ups, nor with our ability to command our pets; but the inability for the pets to understand the "Stay" command, or the "Go To" command. Your first post in this thread had a "Learn to Play" quality about it. You shouldn't be surprised that a few, already agitated MM vets, might see your post as slightly inflammatory. If you look again at PlainGuy's first post he very clearly says that he is having problems with his pets not obeying the "Stay" command, rather than how to tell them to stay in the first place.

Let me describe this very clearly so there can be no mistake; I use the Keybinds very kindly posted here in the MM sticky section and I also make use of self made Macros. When I set a location for my pets to "Go To", or to "Stay" the pet goes to that location, fires off its ranged attack chain, and then runs into melee to attack with brawl (or equivalent). Even if I click "Stay" again, and again, and again... or use "Go To" again, and again, and again, my pets do not stay put. They will run away from where they are meant to be. They will try use their melee attacks even if the "Go To" point is 80yards away from the target. After attacking said target they may come back to the point at which I told them to stay, and sometimes they will not until I give them a second "Go To" command.

Unless the Pet has a full attack chain that works from range, the default action for a pet is to use powers that are recharged; namely Brawl.

**This post does not intend to have a condescending tone. Please do not read it as an attack, nor as if I'm lecturing. I am mearly trying to inform everyone of the issue as I, the player, sees it.**

Which is hilarious to both watch and do, by the way.

Ok, firstly if this thread isn't about Dominators (and their... ahem... "laughable" inherent) then why did you bring them up in the first place? You directly attacked their inherent, and used it as the starting point for one of your arguments. You were WRONG about Dominator's inherent, and about the Archetype in general. You seem to have the misguided thought that they can't hold through PToD (which is wrong by the way) and you think that they are a "vulnerable" class to play without their holds.

I argue that a Controller is vulnerable without her holds, a tanker vulnerable without his shields and a Mastermind is vulnerable without his pets. Sure, we're both technically "right" about that... take away the MAIN reason any class has any form of survivability and they'll become vulnerable; simple logic. However if you think that most Doms wander around not using their primary power set then I think we've seen your true "understanding" of the Archtype, as you so quaintly put it.

There is an expression; "Digging Yourself into a Hole", which I believe fits here. If you post something which backfires (like trying to make a point that includes saying that Doms, and Domination is "laughable") then take it back and move on without mentioning it again. If you continue to maintain your original assertion about Domination (which is wrong) you are digging yourself into a hole and making the rest of your assertions lack a certain credibility.

Play a Dominator, see the change and then come back. Until then please stop slandering the Doms inherent unless you have some further reason you don't like it after seeing the changes that apparently "aren't" happening.

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