MrBones

Every 3-5 seconds on Freedom right now. What's the dealio.

Hey guys...thanks for the tips so far.

I'm going to be choosing most of my enemy types due to using the AE, so I'm not concerned about psi at all. I will primarily try to stick to smashing/lethal enemies. After farting around with many different configurations last night, I'm starting to think maxing out ranged defense is the smartest way to go. Most alpha's are all ranged, and I can always avoid melee altogether in a number of ways.

I'm trying to make the most survivable, highest defense possible, traps/DP defender I can make. My goal is to somehow solo 8/+1 AE missions at some point.

I'm unsure of whether to slot for smashing/lethal defense, melee defense, or ranged defense with IO sets.

Can anyone help me with this? Some of you guys have PHD's in set bonuses and have done some extraordinary things with bonuses.

Thanks.

It's a complete myth that defense is "useless" in RV. What's happens is that most people who pve with a heavily defensive set roll up in RV thinking they will have the Godlike ability to avoid just about everything coming their way like in pve. It just doesn't work like that. If someone has BU+AIM, or just Aim, they will get through your defense. Its just how it works.

Now if you fight a build without BU, or aim, or any way to increase their accuracy, you will own them. I know because I have two lvl 50 trollers that are useless against high defense builds. I simply can't hit them.

Its really just a perception thing.

1) How is DB for tanks?
2) How does the empower combo work? Does it add more +acc and +dam than blinding feint alone?
3) Does DB feel powerful against mobs at high levels considering the high resists to lethal and tanks low damage modifier?

Any advice would be great, thanks.

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http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2...fessor_be.html


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So since Professor David Myers has determined that playing a game in a vindictive, unconventional manner, with clear intent to provoke, insult, and spoil other's fun, will cause social group's become "medieval" and mean-spirited?

I could have done a similar experiment in a grammar school playground. If you run up and kick other's kids in the knees, or take away the ball every time they're trying to have fun together, they're not gonna like you.

This guy is a tool. He's not a genius. He's not doing socially enlightening, helpful work. He basically found a way to play video games on the clock all in the name of research. And to top it off, he lives and works only 5 miles away from me.

I love how the article makes it as though he was just a regular Joe, playing the game as intended, just trying to have fun. He was nothing of the sort. He'd insult you, do things like drone you, then talk smack to you. His only tactic consisted of exclusively using tp foe and tp to teleport you into a mob of NPC's, or into a drone.

My first experience with the guy was him tping me into an unwinable situation, me phasing out, then him broadcasting insults about me to everyone because I had used phase shift. What a crock. I'm just glad I didn't give any of my money to Loyola.

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I took an EM/EA back at launch to 39, but that was ages and an old account ago.

I am really, really trying to get back into CoV, but the negativity (a STICKIED thread about how suxor /EA is? Good grief!) about them has made me wary.

In fact, I wanted to try something fun and different, so I rolled and Elec/Elec.

Then I hit the boards for build advice and was stunned. Could all of the negativity be true? It seems like nothing but negative posts about it, the most recent guide was from I7 and now I'm thinking, either I'll run this to 50 just to show them or I'm wasting my time.

Is it just that since I bought a VW bug, all I notice is VW bugs or is it that Brute's need some serious Dev attention?

Any advice for the Elect/Elect Brute noob?

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Dude, the only thing that's borked about brutes is how you'll never want to play another AT again.

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Giving defenders an inherent that increased the powers of their buff/debuffs would make them crazy overpowered.
More so than they already are I mean.

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I'm curious what defender combinations you feel are overpowered right now.

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I have 3 lvl 50 defender's. Match up a defender & dom in pvp see who wins, the dom will kill the defender in 2 sec's.

If people think there is nothing wrong with defenders I don't know what they are smoking. lol

I'd say defenders might be dead last or tie with a WS/PB on the pvp scale. It's very sad!

Defender are & have been useless in pvp since these garbage game ruining nerfs.

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Should a defender kill a dom in 1 on 1 pvp? How bout versus a stalker or a blaster?

Come on now, your a buff/debuff class.

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So what should they kill easily?

Since most people seem vehemently opposed to increasing defender's damage for some reason, what if you had something similar to a brute's fury bar, but instead of increasing damage, it increased the effectiveness of your buffs/heals/debuffs/secondary effects?

An endurance discount when you're on teams is boring and in most cases, unnecessary.

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Since the dev's buffed dom's to borderline ridiculous the dev's really need to give/fix defenders some love now.
Defender damage is very poor with lack of control & yes super squishy.

Give defenders love! This is why you don't see defenders in pvp anymore!

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I agree completely. But don't worry, the vocal defender crowd will show up in here and insist there's nothing wrong with anemic damage, a boring, and unnecessary inherent, and squishiness. I'm quite certain there will be numerous rad/sonics saying that since they can do good damage, there is nothing wrong with the AT.

Or they'll say its just not the style of gameplay for everyone. Or that you just haven't gotten your defender to a high enough level to be powerful. Or that you just don't know how to play your defender.

Either way, there seems to be A LOT of people who are just completely opposed to becoming more powerful either by increasing damage or by any means. What can you do.

I'm gonna throw my two cents in and say defender damage needs a buff. I'm currently trying to level a TA/archery and its PAINFUL. Some LT's take at least 20 arrows to defeat. I mean, seriously.

Matter of fact, I can't think of a single build I leveled that takes as long to kill mobs.

You just sit and watch as your attacks hit, over and over and over and over and over and you swear, "ok, he's down to just a sliver of health, this should be enough to kill him, " and nope, he is still alive, and you have to continue to plink away at his health.

Its like every single white con minion and LT has the hitpoints of an AV playing as a defender.

***I just logged in to see how many times I have to attack to kill a yellow LT troll and a white minion troll. It takes 16 attacks with my bow to kill the LT and 9 to kill AN EVEN CON MINION. Sure I'm lvl 11 without IO's yet, but that's ridiculous.

"Your glue goo is amazing!"

I have a build/concept I really like for this build. I'd like to be able to zone pvp in RV and ocassionally duel. Are SR scrappers any good now? I can't figure out exactly how defense works in the pvp environment now.

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I *was* PvPing pretty heavily in RV the last few months. I too have an energy/energy blaster. From personal experience, boost range and slotted fly is your friend.

Firing boost range + BU + AIM + snipe while flying high seems to do wonders. I've noticed lately that alot of vills opt to not choose the fly power, instead going with buying the flying pack, meaning they only have unslotted fly. If you have slotted fly, they're gonna be hard pressed to chase you when you're already so far from them, thanks to boost range.

An annoying thing to do is to camp/fly above the vill base and take pot shots with boost range and snipe out of the range of the drones.

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Yeah, fly is a completely different tactical consideration now that hover resists -fly debuffs. You can literally fly in the sky and take popshots at people before they, if they ever, figure out where you are. Flying stalkers will give you a little bit of trouble, but with a blasters damage you could go toe to toe with them.

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Psi/EM, Sonic/EM, Arch/EM Blaster. Fire/Regen, BS/Regen Scrapper. Fire/SS, Inv/SS, Shield/SS Tanker.

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Why the shield/ss tank? All the others make sense, but that one.

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Because Shields on Tankers is quite godly in zone pvp believe it or not.

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No kidding? I really liked my DM/SD brute, but was afraid SD was going to be useless in zone pvp. Maybe I'll roll a SD tank.

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Is there anything that's not easy to kill, in your opinion?

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Yes. some regen scrappers and other toons played with skill.

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You must sharpen your blades on noobs, because i know my stalker doesn't go down easy, thats if i even go down. You exaggerate your position a bit i believe, espectially that bold mm talk, the ones that usually duel are experts using them and mostly either dark or pain gg beating one of them easy. And gg thinking all stalkers are easy wins, next time your tough melee toon want a fight, look up knockout ned and show me all this nonsense you speak of i guarantee it will be a fight and no easy win as you say...pfft


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I said with blaster not melee, I said Blaster. All I said is stalkers arn't unkillable specially in Duels. My blaster survives them most of the time. And no its not n00bs that i kill.

I never said Mm's were easy kills, I just said there are some ways to beat them. Which there are. Ive seen it.

We can duel to on test, unless you have one on justice. And if you beat me ill say GG. I like good challenges.

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Ok, got the regen scrap part. The other part is a bit vague. Lol. Could you elaborate on the "other toons played with skill."

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Psi/EM, Sonic/EM, Arch/EM Blaster. Fire/Regen, BS/Regen Scrapper. Fire/SS, Inv/SS, Shield/SS Tanker.

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Why the shield/ss tank? All the others make sense, but that one.

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The guy/girl was a goofball, but clearly there are builds more powerful than others. MM's simply cannot be defeated by certain builds. And stalkers have a clear advantage against anyone, considering they ALWAYS decide when, where, and how to attack, not to mention they can disappear simply by running away.

I've played and fought against both stalkers and MM's, and because of the game mechanics, both were retardedly easy to both survive and get kills with.

That dude might have taken it a bit far, but there's a smidgeon of truth to the point he was making.

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Not really. Stalkers are easy to kill when there out of hide, and if you cant kill them in a duel then there is seriously something wrong with your build. All you have to do is survive the initial AS. Also blasters will kill stalkers all day in a duel and this guy aparently didnt realize that. lol

Also MM's may take a little more challenge to beat, but they are not unbeatable. There are a handfull of options to beat a MM.

This whole story was LOL. Wish i coulda ben there to see that. Was this on freedom.

[/ QUOTE ]You must sharpen your blades on noobs, because i know my stalker doesn't go down easy, thats if i even go down. You exaggerate your position a bit i believe, espectially that bold mm talk, the ones that usually duel are experts using them and mostly either dark or pain gg beating one of them easy. And gg thinking all stalkers are easy wins, next time your tough melee toon want a fight, look up knockout ned and show me all this nonsense you speak of i guarantee it will be a fight and no easy win as you say...pfft

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Don't worry, Ned. People throw out ridiculous claims like this all the time.

I'm completely lost as to how PvP works now. I brought a high defense character into RV and something causes all the defense to diminish. Defense on that particular toon, which could survive just about anything before, is worthless now.

My Crab used to be Godlike, a tank with ranged attacks and pets, if you will. He now is more like crab bait.

And the wonderful slows of my Earth/TA serve absolutely no function in zone PvP other than to drop flyers and jumpers with ent. arrow and glue arrow.

I'm so lost. What actually performs well in zone PvP now? I was thinking of making a heroside sapper, but fear I will level him all the way up only to find out there's some enigmatic mechanism in place that makes it work differently than I thought it would. There's so many hidden rules and formulas in place when you transfer from PvE to PvP that I don't have the slightest clue what will work right.

It appears that damage is the only consistent variable in place.

Help please.

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The guy/girl was a goofball, but clearly there are builds more powerful than others. MM's simply cannot be defeated by certain builds. And stalkers have a clear advantage against anyone, considering they ALWAYS decide when, where, and how to attack, not to mention they can disappear simply by running away.

I've played and fought against both stalkers and MM's, and because of the game mechanics, both were retardedly easy to both survive and get kills with.

That dude might have taken it a bit far, but there's a smidgeon of truth to the point he was making.

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Not really. Stalkers are easy to kill when there out of hide, and if you cant kill them in a duel then there is seriously something wrong with your build. All you have to do is survive the initial AS. Also blasters will kill stalkers all day in a duel and this guy aparently didnt realize that. lol

Also MM's may take a little more challenge to beat, but they are not unbeatable. There are a handfull of options to beat a MM.

This whole story was LOL. Wish i coulda ben there to see that. Was this on freedom.

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Is there anything that's not easy to kill, in your opinion?

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It doesn't seem to matter which side outnumber's which, if you beat someone, inevitably they are gonna blame it on whichever team you happen to be on, or whatever other person happens to be around when you kill them and then challenge you to a 1v1, cus they just know they can beatcha!

That's fine. But when you challenge someone to a duel then start calling out arbitrary rules, that's when it gets a lil funny.

Funny story: I was on a 44 dark/dark stalker and patrolling RV for smack-talkers to embarrass. 1 particular blaster was [censored] up a storm about anyone and everything so he was my primary farm target of the moment. He really started getting irate, and finally challenged me to a duel. I agreed, but he said "I don't duel stalkers."

"LoL wha? You challenged me."
"Stalkers are OP"
"Would it help if i told you I was dark/dark?"
"OP'd"
"LOL?"
"I'll duel any toon you have that ain't a stalker"

So I tell him to head to pocket D, and by this time we have a bit of an audience. I log one of my MM's in.

"An MM? Are you serious? MM's suck in pvp!"
"KK, gl hf"
"I'm not fighting an MM, not worth my time."
"Listed"
"Not fighting that toon, grab another one"
"LMAO, is there any other toon that yer *not gonna fight*? might save me some time."
"No, any other toon, but no stalkers, no MM's"

So I log on my elec/therm.

"LOL OP'd therm. gtfo"
"Are you serious?"
"Yes, I'm not fighting a therm."
" . . . ."

By now the crowd is jeering and laughing.

"Look dude, I'll tell you what, I'l log in 4 random toons from each of my accounts, you go ahead and choose which one you think you can beat, err *duel*."
"okay."

I do, and he chooses my Sonic corr which is uberly SO'd out . . . then swaps toons.

LMAO! He comes back with a sonic blaster that I can only assume is his *premier* duel toon. Goes thru his tray full of insp in the first 2 mins, but pwns me handily 5-0 in that amount of time, talking [censored] the whole time. Then he starts running from me, shooting then running away. Though I really doubted I had any chance of outdamaging him with only SO's, I chase and keep it interesting for the spectators.

He keeps saying "just quit the match man, you're beat! just quit, just quit, just quit."

LMAO, I can sense his desperation at being outta insp, so I start popping my own and finally get a kill. I totally expected him to quit right before he died, but I think the stacking of sonic caught him by surprise before he could.

The match ended up being 11-1 or something, but I was quite happy with the result. First time I ever lost a match so decisively but still felt like I won.

He challenged me to a duel in RV, I accepted then had to swap to 4 different toons and provide 8 different options for him before he finally chose one. Then he himself swapped to a different toon so he could *pwn* it. When he ran outta insp, he got beat.

Bottom line, if yer gonna challenge someone to a duel, then duel. The irony is, he prolly coulda beat that lvl 44 dark/dark stalker with whatever toon he happened to be on at the time in RV.

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The guy/girl was a goofball, but clearly there are builds more powerful than others. MM's simply cannot be defeated by certain builds. And stalkers have a clear advantage against anyone, considering they ALWAYS decide when, where, and how to attack, not to mention they can disappear simply by running away.

I've played and fought against both stalkers and MM's, and because of the game mechanics, both were retardedly easy to both survive and get kills with.

That dude might have taken it a bit far, but there's a smidgeon of truth to the point he was making.

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Dont base camp, you wont get droned.

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What needs to be done is add a -range component with in 75 feet of the drones or better yet add a no tp zone component ala pocket D with in a reasonable range of the drones.

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What needs to be done is for people to stop crying and not get so close to the base. A bunch of pissing and moaning by people who could not figure out how to be good at pvp was what got us PVP2.0. We don't need any more "improvements".

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Base camping is a myth and hardly keeps you from being able to escape the perimeter of the base as you clearly have multiple ways to exit the base.

Droning is not about balancing the playing field or righting a wrong, its about being a sore loser who wants to get even. Its the guy who trips you from behind as you're about to beat him in the race. Its about payback.

So spare us the "don't get to close to the base," nonsense. You're mad because you're outnumbered and you want to get even. And that's all its about.

Excellent. Thanks for the responses, guys.

I have a DM/SD brute. Will I ever be able to drop an AV? I've fought elite bosses with no problem, but wonder if I'll ever have the raw damage/endurance management/survivability to take an AV down. I managed to go toe to toe with Scrapyard, but couldn't get his health down very far.