Use a Shivan
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I have a DM/SD brute. Will I ever be able to drop an AV? I've fought elite bosses with no problem, but wonder if I'll ever have the raw damage/endurance management/survivability to take an AV down. I managed to go toe to toe with Scrapyard, but couldn't get his health down very far.
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If you want to put the infamy into a DM/SD it can attain the raw damage/endurance management/survivability to take down an AV. It won't be a cheap build by any means, but it can be done.
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EDIT: AVs take time to solo, usually 10-20 minutes give or take depending on resistances, Tier 9s (theirs), etc. It's kinda boring at times and only good for bragging rights really. I solo on Relentless and will come across AVs from time to time on story arcs. I usually fight them for a bit to see how I fair and then once I get bored, I'll drop a Shivan and move on.
AVs go down relatively easy, solo I dont think you have the DPS on any brute to down a GM. Outside buffs are another matter.
The only ATs i have seen solo GMs (post ED and post AV/GM buff) are Defenders (rad/sonics), Controllers (ill/rad) and a Corrupter (Ice/kin against scrapyard running tons of fulcrum shift and the -regen of transfusion)
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I have a DM/SD brute. Will I ever be able to drop an AV? I've fought elite bosses with no problem, but wonder if I'll ever have the raw damage/endurance management/survivability to take an AV down. I managed to go toe to toe with Scrapyard, but couldn't get his health down very far.
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Yes a Brute can solo an AV just like a Scrapper can. Brute do just as good as damage as a Scrapper can with a full bar of fury. Brute as more Hit points so it will be easyer to live. The one thing that can be a problem is End, I know you are Dark Melee but Dark Consumption isn't going to be up all the time. Scrapper get Conserve Power so it helps a lot.
Now are you talking about Ghost of Scrapyard? Your not going to be able to kill him. You will not even going to come close to DPS you need to beat his Regen.
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My DM/DM has and can solo AV/hero's even without temp powers depending on given AV/hero dam type and ress weaknesses.
Few years back he soloed Scrapyard about 4 times around 3ish am when was bored. The 100s of minions not only kept fury max but my dam buff too.
Once: when playing with him, not knowing I could. Again to show friend. 3rd time was for guy that said he knew everything about this game and soloing a GM without nukes or shivs was impossible. The fourth time was for a GM who looked like a little level 1 police hoverbot (which I thought odd for downtown Shark redside 
) As altho I could and did solo him I would get no rewards.. no badge..no prestige..no xp.
My only response was you did not fill the requirements lol
Back then to get credit you had to be on a team. Which I had to figure out on my own. 
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My DM/DM has and can solo AV/hero's even without temp powers depending on given AV/hero dam type and ress weaknesses.
Few years back he soloed Scrapyard about 4 times around 3ish am when was bored. The 100s of minions not only kept fury max but my dam buff too.
Once: when playing with him, not knowing I could. Again to show friend. 3rd time was for guy that said he knew everything about this game and soloing a GM without nukes or shivs was impossible. The fourth time was for a GM who looked like a little level 1 police hoverbot (which I thought odd for downtown Shark redside ) As altho I could and did solo him I would get no rewards.. no badge..no prestige..no xp.
My only response was you did not fill the requirements lol
Back then to get credit you had to be on a team. Which I had to figure out on my own.
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That would have been before the +1000% AV/GM buff that was scaled back to +300% i assume
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I have a DM/SD brute. Will I ever be able to drop an AV? I've fought elite bosses with no problem, but wonder if I'll ever have the raw damage/endurance management/survivability to take an AV down. I managed to go toe to toe with Scrapyard, but couldn't get his health down very far.
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If you want to put the infamy into a DM/SD it can attain the raw damage/endurance management/survivability to take down an AV. It won't be a cheap build by any means, but it can be done.
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I made a DM/SD brute just for soloing av's, cost me under 300mil, has soft capped defense, okay recharge and a nice heal from siphon. Now I wont go as far to say its easy to solo an AV but ive done it before, it aint easy but I could do it.
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My DM/DM has and can solo AV/hero's even without temp powers depending on given AV/hero dam type and ress weaknesses.
Few years back he soloed Scrapyard about 4 times around 3ish am when was bored. The 100s of minions not only kept fury max but my dam buff too.
Once: when playing with him, not knowing I could. Again to show friend. 3rd time was for guy that said he knew everything about this game and soloing a GM without nukes or shivs was impossible. The fourth time was for a GM who looked like a little level 1 police hoverbot (which I thought odd for downtown Shark redside ) As altho I could and did solo him I would get no rewards.. no badge..no prestige..no xp.
My only response was you did not fill the requirements lol
Back then to get credit you had to be on a team. Which I had to figure out on my own.
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That would have been before the +1000% AV/GM buff that was scaled back to +300% i assume
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oh yes.. and before the evasive action AI too.
actually it was during or just before the rebalancing phase somewhere.. exactly when? not sure.. but do know it was close to that time they overbuffed the regen then lowered it then well... you know lol
Also why I only mentioned AV/hero in beginning, been loooong time since I even attempted a GM
LOL does anyone even remember what a GM is?
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A level 21 GM has roughly the same number of hit points as a level 50 AV; if you can kill an AV at level 50 you should be able to take out the GMs at that level or less (which is basically Deathsurge redside, barring the Halloween GMs spawning in Mercy or Port Oakes).
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I have a DM/SD brute. Will I ever be able to drop an AV? I've fought elite bosses with no problem, but wonder if I'll ever have the raw damage/endurance management/survivability to take an AV down. I managed to go toe to toe with Scrapyard, but couldn't get his health down very far.
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If you want to put the infamy into a DM/SD it can attain the raw damage/endurance management/survivability to take down an AV. It won't be a cheap build by any means, but it can be done.
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The key proc to this, in my opinion, would be the +End in Theft of Essence. It would go a long way to bridge the gap between Dark Consumptions.
You're thinking about Dark Regeneration. Just slot Dark Consumption for recharge it will be able to fill your whole bar every minute which is more than enough for what you will need.
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A level 21 GM has roughly the same number of hit points as a level 50 AV; if you can kill an AV at level 50 you should be able to take out the GMs at that level or less (which is basically Deathsurge redside, barring the Halloween GMs spawning in Mercy or Port Oakes).
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Nope.
GMs have higher regeneration than AVs, and take less damage because of their coding
Pretty much the only characters that can solo GMs are ones with good regen debuffs who also have a lot of survivability and damage. Ill/Rad Controllers with perma-Phantom Army are the classic example, but I think some higly IOed Rad Corruptors have done it and I know Bots/Traps MMs have. Brutes... not so much.
AVs / Heroes, on the other hand, should be quite possible with a high-end build. You just need to be tough enough to stand up to them indefinitely, have enough DPS to move their health bar, and have enough recovery to maintain that DPS indefinitely. Assuming the AV doesn't have a tier 9 or large heal that recharges faster than you can kill the AV you should be set.
Cascade, level 50 Blaster (NRG/NRG since before it was cool)
Mechmeister, level 50 Bots / Traps MM
FAR too many non-50 alts to name
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A level 21 GM has roughly the same number of hit points as a level 50 AV; if you can kill an AV at level 50 you should be able to take out the GMs at that level or less (which is basically Deathsurge redside, barring the Halloween GMs spawning in Mercy or Port Oakes).
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Nope.
GMs have higher regeneration than AVs, and take less damage because of their coding
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This.
I had a EM/WP that could solo AVs without any major issues. But not able to solo GMs with fewer HP due to the reasons above.
Excellent. Thanks for the responses, guys.
I have a DM/SD brute. Will I ever be able to drop an AV? I've fought elite bosses with no problem, but wonder if I'll ever have the raw damage/endurance management/survivability to take an AV down. I managed to go toe to toe with Scrapyard, but couldn't get his health down very far.