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The crash is only half as bad now though.
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Joe, what's your attack chain?
As it is you can run RS>GB>GE. Or if you grab reactive and a little more recharge in RS, you can swap glinting eye for gleaming bolt and get a touch more dps. -
THB, TBH I got some things we can do, THB
-You don't need the third slot in Hasten for perma.
-You can get a tiny bit more damage out of Grav Well by swapping the Heca Acc/Rech for the Damage one (you will still have enough recharge to fit in your chain easy, and your acc should be fine, especially with perma mire).
-As you will probably never use Ebon Eye, I would take that Apoc Damage and put it in Shadow Blast (replace the Acc/Dam/Rech with it in SBlast)
-The AA: chance for -tohit is really crappy, but that's just an opinion.
-I'm concerned about your survival in a no-eclipse fodder scenario without the human shields; from what you are saying it seems your defense covers it though?
-You might get more mileage out of an Efficacy Adapter: Endredux/Endmod in Stygian circle. -
Quote:So electric will be able to do the free AS now with any secondary with spring attack, but Ninja blade and Broadsword will now be able to do it too with ninjutsu since their assassination activation times are slightly longer: Caltrops>BU>spring>ASOriginally Posted by Auroxis
I'm thinking Ninjutsu won't be all that necessary with Spring Attack coming up. EleM/EA will be yummy with the extra recharge and drain+stun synergy, and it fixes the endurance issues.
Dual blades and claws might be able to do it too, depending on the redraw time of those weapons. -
If you need the recharge, spiritual works. Elec/nin tends to be a little bit endurance heavy ime, so cardiac if that is true for your build. If your endurance is ok and you don't explicitly need the recharge, musculature will give you some more damage. Nerve is the only one I think is rather worthless.
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Oh, well then if I switch all IO's to max level, it looks like you have enough recharge to steal one slot from hasten and still be perma.
I think that +end proc in lightform will only have a chance when you initially click it since it isn't a toggle, but I'm not completely sure there. -
It looks like you plan to exemp, since you've got a bunch of lvl 35 IO's. But if you do exemp, aren't you going to want the shields?
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That looks better, but ideally you're gonna want 3.96s recharge on Chain Induction, as well as some more recharge in hasten. If you don't mind using more purples you can try this:
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Quote:You also need to include your average damage bonus from buildup, plus assault if you have it and set bonuses, add in any procs, and then apply the tohit clamp. But no, that will not be considered "high."Originally Posted by Jibikao
Using 66.86 number with 95% damage enhancement is about 130 dps. Is this considered high among Brute/Scrapper/SoA or?
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Quote:Ah, that explains it.Originally Posted by Nightchill_EU
I used on original thread level ONE DPA unenhenced outcrit numbers.
You can turn that off in mids so that it only shows the defense value you would have while in combat. Go to Options>Configuration>Effects & Math and under "Suppression" check "Attacked."Quote:(watch that Hide isnt activated since part of the def goes away when uncovered)
As to the build, it depends on what (if) you are planning to do for incarnate powers, because you have two big problems that would both be taken care of by Ageless: your recharge is a bit low for the top regular chain, and your endurance consumption is going to kill you. Ageless Core will help both of those, and combined with Spiritual Core could probably fix your recharge entirely.
You might want to grab some more AoE defense, for which you can sacrifice a little of your melee defense.
Otherwise you have pretty good power choices. I would replace Smoke Flash with Hibernate; Smoke Flash isn't nearly as good, and you can still get a temp power version of it if you really want it. -
Quote:Last I checked, it was either top or very nearly top.Originally Posted by Nightchill_EU
So yeah its damn worth it. I'm wondering if the trick doesnt make Elec the best ST dps...
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Quote:Nightchill is using base (unslotted) numbers, and it looks like without crits; on top of that, the numbers seem to be a little off, making the dps lower than it really is.Originally Posted by Test_Rat
Are you guys using a different notation, or are stalker DPS just that pathetic.
Comparing to the common figures given on the scrapper forums, these numbers suck.
Example: base dps of that Dark Melee chain without Build Up, counting 10% crit rate (which is base) should be 66.86. If you apply the tohit clamp, that becomes 63.52. But even if I took out the 10% crit that would be 57.74.
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Quote:I am pretty sure its recharge actually is 90 seconds and that is a bug on the description in beta, based on what others have said and how long it took to recharge on a build I tested it with. At least I hope it is a bugOriginally Posted by Auroxis
That also means you're losing out on BU+Spring Attack, though.
Spring Attack has a 1.5 base activation time(1.716 arcanatime), so about 1 second less than LR. It also has more recharge than I thought, I distinctly remember it having a 90 second recharge time and not a 120 second one. Kind of changes things a lot.
A 1.716 arcanacast also means Caltrops>Spring>Waterspout>AS wont quite work...
I'm not too concerned with missing out on BU>Spring as its dpa looks to be roughly on par with CB (with 10% crit), and thus just using the regular chain after AS will get you more out of the BU cycle. -
Quote:If I'm reading you right, that wouldn't work because we need a total activation time of 8 seconds between a direct attack and AS landing. But we could just base it around Caltrops' recharge time like so:Originally Posted by Auroxis
What if you queued AS after using Caltrops and Water Spout(The same chain I posted earlier except without JL)? It effectively makes AS's activation time a bit over a second longer depending on your recharge, and a 4.5~ animation AS with Assassination is still pretty high DPA.
Heck, you could use your self heal during that time.
Caltrops>BU>LR>AS>(fill with CI>CB>JL>CB until Caltrops is recharged)>Caltrops>Spring Attack>Waterspout>AS.
Again this assumes Spring Attack's arcanatime is the same as LR, but as Caltrops recharges twice as fast as LR, that could work to boost dps some more... -
Quote:What's the arcanatime for spring attack? We could rearrange some things and maybe make that work. If it is the same as lr you might pull off BU>Caltrops>lr>AS>spring attack>waterspout>Caltrops>AS...Originally Posted by Auroxis
You could use 4 pseudopets... BU -> Lightning Rod -> Spring Attack-> AS -> Jacob's Ladder -> Caltrops -> Water Spout -> AS
Water Spout won't always be up though, but twice the recharge of LR/Spring Attack means that you can use it once every other time LR is up without losing out on Water Spout's uptime.
Oh nevermind, not quite as smooth without BU.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Auroxis
I'm thinking Ninjutsu won't be all that necessary with Spring Attack coming up. EleM/EA will be yummy with the extra recharge and drain+stun synergy, and it fixes the endurance issues.
I didn't think about spring attack being a pseudopet...this bodes well.
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Even on my "human" build I still have both forms, if for nothing else (in the case of dwarf) than they give extra slots for set bonuses. Nova's fantastic AoE damage is just too good to pass up most of the time.
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Actually Elm can be quite competitive if you use the pseudopet nature of lightning rod to pull of a "free" AS as recharge permits (works best with ninjutsu). Details of this are in my guide.
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I can't look at the build at the moment, but if you are able to go for musculature get the radial t4, as that will boost the end mod of powersink; throw another couple of endmods in powersink to combine with that and it becomes a seriously potent mitigation tool.
Also, you said you were capped to melee, what about lethal? It's best to get both if you can, because the lethal will protect you from several ranged and aoe attacks too, which frequently have defense debuffs attached. -
Brute (because of Gloom) and Stalker (because of AS) versions are generally better for single target damage, though I haven't checked numbers with /sd. I really doubt you would beat your brute's time with an elec/sd scrap. However, Scrapper AoE damage should be better because the pet damage cap is the same for all AT's, and Scrappers get a higher base damage on the pseudopets LR and SC.
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Quote:Wow, the amount of venom dripping from that post is a bit shocking. By the way, I didn't say "You can't do that on pure SOs," I said "Ya on SOs that's probably not going to happen," because I didn't quite pull it off on SOs either.Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Waah, waah, waah. The little bit that isn't SO doesn't have that big of an effect. What, one KB protection? A few HOs? You think that makes such a HUGE difference to invalidate the point that your "You can't do that on pure SOs" is complete BS when I *did* do so? If we were looking at, say, a build with five LotGs you'd almost have a point. But we're not, are we? Oh, no, the first one has *A* set of thunderstrikes, look at my capped ranged defen... wait, barely have any. I can outdo what the *few* pieces I have in there give me with single small inspirations. So, yeah, quit whinging that Voidbane's "not a pure SO build." It's close enough to make no difference.
And just because YOU don't know how to run the second build doesn't mean *I* don't. (Hmm. Rather like Knockback use....) No sitting and waiting needed. That second one? I've run her since issue *4.* ON... guess what. Go ahead, guess. Hint 1, those HOs are newer for the most part than the alpha slot. Hint 2, IOs didn't exist when I rolled her OR got her to 50. It is a true Triform build, not a "forms with human buff" build. The build's morphed - it's pretty much respecced to try something different with a triform about once a year, quite honestly, different emphasis on different areas - but that's where it was when Alpha came out (haven't redone it since.)
Also, notice the part of my post about the second build ended with a question mark. That meant I was asking a question.
On knockback, while I dislike it in certain powers, I have always respected your opinion of it when you brought it up, which you can go back and check various threads for if you want.
I would normally ask you to enlighten me as to what I did wrong when I fought Honoree, because clearly it was something, but at this point I don't care what you have to say. I used to like you, but you have become such a complete *** in your "must defend peacebringers at all costs" crusade that I don't give a flying tentacle what you think. Nice job. -
Um, neither of those are pure SO builds. The second one doesn't have end redux in the attacks, so I'm not even sure how you run it unless you sit around and wait for either lightform or conserve power, unless that's your form build? My build has two to three damage SO's per power with acc/rech/endredux as needed, and while I could get him downhe would pop his tier 9 or heal and I couldn't finish him in time of lightform.
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Post I21 will be this:
Warshade
Brute
PB
Scrapper
Stalker
Soldier
MM
Dom
Corr
Widow
Cont
Blaster
Defender
Tanker
It depends on particular sets, but in general that's where I am. I won't really touch anything below controller except for very special circumstances. -
Quote:Only kb and immob protection are affected by being near the ground or not. Enddrain should still be fine, as should the e/n resistance.Originally Posted by Postagulous
Does the end drain protectoin in Grounded work when off the ground?
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Quote:Anyone who wants to be tougher: tankers have a higher resistance cap (5% can make a large difference); tankers have an extra 3/4 base hp, and an extra 1/2 hp at cap, unless paragonwiki hasn't been updated, in which case the discrepancy is larger; tankers have significantly higher regen because of the higher hp; many tankers get some sort of debuff protection.Originally Posted by Zenithalia
To make dwarf form closer in damage to other tanks is ridiculous. Who the hell would play tanks?
Anyone who wants to hold aggro better: Dwarf taunt, autohit or not, is lightyears behind gauntlet.
Anyone who wants to increase the whole team's damage with a resistance debuff in their tier 1: 'nuff said.
Anyone who wants to be that tough but play a defense set, or a weapon set, or have extra AoE's.