Mephisto_Kur

Not sure how you were not able to move on before, since there is a Mac version, and several folks that are very nice about helping to get the game running on Linux .

Altho, Cuppa, you say you just got a new video card... wouldn't be an ATi card would it? Running the 11.5 drivers? If it is, save some time and move back to the 11.3 drivers.

Seems to me that would be a bug considering that Ion was just nerfed for that exact kind of behavior in PvE.

That argument makes much more sense .

There is no debate. Zombie is wrong. The current flagship line for ATi Radeon is the HD6xxx series. The 6770 is at the low end of the middle range of ATi gaming cards. Preferable would be to shift to a 68xx or 69xx if you can afford to. But City of Heroes has an inordinate amount of CPU usage, so having a blazing fast card - while important - should also have a blazing fast CPU running with it for this game.

There was definitely something odd happening on the server side last night. I also had issues connecting, but even the website was extremely slow last night.

Excellent, glad I could help.
The link issue is because I forgot that AMD had switched to a session based download - it would only work for me, and only for a little while :/ haha sorry about that.

That weird flicker in the arachnos tubes has been around since ultra mode was released. Wish they'd fix that. Which Rikti rooms? There's a known issue with the large portal room in which walls and floors flicker in and out of existence, this is actually not video card dependent and is noticeable on both ATi and nVidia products - that bug is several issues old... wish they would fix that one too .

Desktop icons will move on occasion when installing new video drivers - depending on how the driver installer swaps settings. At some points, the new driver needs to revert to the original Windows default resolution for a few seconds. Since the desktop has substantially less room, the icons get bunched tighter. This doesn't always happen, but it happens more often than not.

While it is always best to uninstall your old driver and sweep your system with something like DriverSweeper... I can guarantee that even those of us that do this stuff for a living have been lazy at times and not had issues. For safety, you should go through the full process, but its your machine and you'll probably be fine. Both video card companies have done an excellent drop fixing issues that would cause problems with a driver update. I can't stress enough that your best plan is to fully sweep the drivers off, first, tho.

With your system, you would need this package: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/11-2_vis...dd_ccc_ocl.exe

Yeah, with the i19.5 release, the 11.1a drivers seem rock solid for me with no crashes, but I haven't reloaded the 10.11 or 10.12 drivers since the update to check FPS. I get a small hitch every time I open a contact window or market window, but it is just a hitch, and no other graphical issues or artifacts.

Can you tell me what your settings are at? I'd like to fine tune a bit, so having input on playable settings can help that.

Even with so many threads talking about ATi issues with drivers newer than 10.9. It is *my* PC when there are half a dozen threads on the exact same issues?

The interim? I had the issue at 4AM, no updates were installed for the machine - I don't let update install without my knowledge. I wait for the patch, and things suddenly work...

I've been professionally troubleshooting PCs for almost two decades. It is NOT the PC. If it was a corrupt game file, it would have been fixed by the half dozen times I have completely reloaded the game from scratch. If it was a corrupt any other file, it would have been fixed by one of the two Windows reloads that have been done on this machine since I have gotten the new card. If it was bad sectors on the disk, it would have shown up on one of the diagnostics I have run trying to figure this out. (not to mention, I have TWO hard drives in here, and the drives get reformatted and alternated on OS installs)

Yet somehow, none of that fixed it. Only a new update from the game devs fixed it. Also, you guys that suddenly are popping up with ideas about how my computer was messed up... where have you been for the past month? Why is it no one is helping those of us with issues until the issue mysteriously resolves itself after a game update? Since the i19 update, the only advice that has worked consistently for anyone here has been to roll back to the 10.9 drivers. Something that worked for anyone on an older card, that only a couple of us just cannot do.

Frankly, I think a lot of this issue is the fact that the 6xxx series cards are brand new. Things with these cards are different. We can't even turn off Catalyst AI - something that is known to cause performance issues in this game.

It is far more likely that something was tweaked in the newest update, than for a month of heavy troubleshooting, including reformat\reload of OS twice, and half a dozen reinstalls of the game from scratch to have suddenly had some background issue resolve itself literally in the few hours between last play of the game and the new update.

I know I sound like I am being an *** about this, but really, you guys are popping up after a frustration level was reached that maybe we should all just let this one go. I mean, we have people that have gone back and forth with support about this issue, as well. I'm trying not to be snippy, but damn. After all this time, folks want to pop up and blame the people that have been fighting this for weeks now...

Issue 19.5 has somehow "fixed" my "computer problem" - or at least made the game playable. Instead of 10-20 FPS in the harder areas (Cap, GV), I had a consistent 25-30 with everything except world detail and AO maxed. World detail is set to 100%. I just played for two hours without a crash, as well.

Those devs rock for fixing my computer issues. The ones I only ever got in this game, right after i19 was released... That ignored complete game reinstalls and a fresh copy of Windows.

Not be a jerk, but problem with my computer? Really? Would you like me to post my Hijack and CoHhelper? I've been running on a (relatively) pristine copy of Windows on this machine since I got my new card right before i19, and I even did a scratch reload of Windows just a few days ago. Yet an update to the broken game seems to have fixed it. Troubleshoot that for me.

I know, right? The worst thing is not even getting an acknowledgment that there's an issue :/ .

Uh, yeah. ATi stable version is 10.9. Sorry, should have asked you to clarify. nVidia seems to be having less issues lately. Bad assumption on my part.

For some people. The 11.1a drivers actually made mine worse. the 10.11 are the most stable I can use.

My guess would be that "mashes CoH quite well" does not mean anywhere near what I would consider "mashes."

But I'll tell you what. In the interest of seeing where this goes, tell me your settings. If you start with "disable Catalyst AI" I'll have to remind you that Catalyst AI cannot be disabled on the 6970 without hacking a profile with a text editor.

I run at everything turned off. All ultra sliders to zero. World detail at 50%. I get 60fps in the worst part of Cap. Do I need 60fps to enjoy the game? No. I need it not to crash, and not to drop into the teens just because I put my shadow slider up one notch. Ambient occlusion? Hate that crap, don't use it. My *only* requirement is AA and AF.

I agree this isn't an OpenGL issue. Its a game issue. If you can explain why I was able to hit 45-55FPS in the worst zones on the 10.11 drivers on i18, then can't play with anything turned on without crashing as soon as the i19 update happened, I'm all ears.

I will say, good news. Someone, even if they never ever speak to us anymore about this stuff, was listening. The version on test - just ran it, and I get in the 30s with everything turned on in south Cap. Much better than teens. Didn't try Talos or other zones, but if the game pushes frames for Cap and GV, everything else will be fine.

As to helping me more, please feel free to look in the technical section:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=246458

I am far from the only person having these issues. There are multiple threads about problems with ATi and drivers newer than 10.9.

Sounds like an improvement, but I guess I should load up test and see for myself, since what I am asking is so subjective. At this point, I can't run shadows at all without massive lag, and I crash regularly if I don't set everything to minimum except AA/AF. Tested on my old 4890, new 6970, and using my wife's 5770 running 10.9 as the control. On the 10.11 (first the 6970 can use) up to and including the newest 11.1a hotfix, I can't top 30 FPS unless *everything* is off, and I crash regularly, both hard crash and the driver stopped responding crash. On the 10.9's, my wife 5770 only needs settings dropped if she has a dark toon on the screen with everything running .