Memphis_Bill

Frankly, I'd prefer more realistic and/or open maps. Seriously, have you EVER seen an office laid out like most of the "office maps?" And any warehouse set up like most of our warehouses - oy.

Give me an office map with cublcles, offices and meeting rooms. The "path" may not show up on the map - you've got to get around these cubicles. Or give me a good building under construction (think of getting to the roof in "No Mercy" in Left4Dead.) The "map" might be open, or have visible sections for, say, the elevators, some walls and supports - but the map itself isn't quite that straightforward, thanks to pallets of cement, construction equipment and the like.

I agree - equality for musical instruments in all trials!

Kidding aside, I'm surprised that didn't happen. Makes sense for it to.

OK, let me boil down what I'm seeing versus what you're saying. Show me where I'm reading you wrong.

You're looking at Prestige as having some actual importance - you point to it as "Prestige generation doesn't hurt you."

I can, actually, counter that by just looking at INF generation post-26. Yes, it's been helped out recently ( you don't lose all generated INF by staying in SG mode.) There's a decided difference in just play-generated (IE, not marketeering) INF by the time you hit 50.

Now, if you want to point out that (for instance) "The SG helps out, between our auto-doc, teleporters to everywhere, and people who craft IOs and put the ones they don't need in a common area" (which several of mine do, by the way,) that's great... but it has nothing to do with the prestige that anybody has earned.

In fact, once an SG has a full base, teleporters, etc, prestige becomes a completely meaningless number. It's understandable to ask people to be in SG mode in a newly formed SG - you're trying to build up a base to be usable. But once that's done and the SG has Prestige built up (for instance, one of the VGs I'm in has somewhere around 19 million Prestige just sitting there - we could not run in SG mode for the next ten years and barely dent that, and we have decent storage,) what's the point of Prestige generation at all?

Look at your statement:

/unsigned.

People have trouble making balanced enemies with *two* powersets. Giving them no limits? Ugh. "Here's my shield/willpower illusion controller mastermind with radiation!"

Just... no.

Many words with no answer.

No, a high prestige listing does not show that there's someone who knows how to "play the game." I can get a high prestige number by doorsitting and taking a shower, making a sandwich, etc. while someone else farms. (It's also part of my issue with the "Top 100 SG" listing, which only lists prestige - that's utterly useless as a measure of a "good" SG.)

Hell, I'm in SGs that have a fully built base, have millions of Prestige just sitting there, and basically say "Don't worry about SG mode, make money for yourself." You'll see some 50s there with a grand total of 0 prestige - not because they transferred SGs or servers (though some did,) but because they were never IN SG mode. And they're players that know the game exceptionally well.

Plus, of course, prestige can be purchased. There's no relation to how well anyone can play the game there.

It doesn't get fixed because it's not broken.

Also, what do you do about someone who has gone through other SGs? How far do you want to track prestige? For instance, BlasterGuy joins the Blaster Battallion. He earns 120,000 Prestige while there. He's interested in PVP, but the Blaster Batallion doesn't really offer much. So, while he still plays with them, he drops and joins the PVP Posse. They go through a boot camp, run events and the like. While he plays there, he earns 60,000 Prestige. His interest in PVP wanes and there are some personality conflicts, so he and some other buddies form their own SG (with the 20,000 "seed Prestige" for being one of the first 15 - which isn't "earned" by the character, it's solely a SG boost.) They mess around a while. Two years later, the leadership of the Blaster Batallion changes, the group picks back up, and he agrees to join.

Does he get "credit" for ALL that prestige? Does he get penalized for the 20,000 the last SG loses when he leaves? Does Paragon have a responsibility to track all of that and maintain those records - with the understanding that Prestige is a *supergroup* resource to track, it's not a *character* resource - regardless of how many times you see that change, and maintain for each SG?

Essentially, you're assigning more to a number than it can ever really represent.
- You suggest that a "high prestige number" is in any real way related to how well a character (or more specifically a player) knows the game. It does not.
- You suggest that the character somehow "owns" that prestige. They do not. They never have. The character may lose that listing. The prestige itself, belonging as it does to the supergroup, is not lost.
- Your request is too open ended and leaves issues open that you haven't addressed, which could lead to more problems in and of themselves due to database changes to add statistics to track and maintain.

To touch on another assumption of yours:

My question is - "So what?"

Just because your prestige was "cleared" doesn't mean it's gone. The prestige is for the SG, not the individual character. And "earned" prestige doesn't really mean much either - who's done more for the SG, the person who forgot to turn on SG mode (or turned it off @26 when there started to be a bite) and shows, say, 50,000 Prestige, but organizes events, raids, teaches newbies, donates salvage, builds IOs and puts them in the bin, etc, or the guy who PL'd to 50, sits at the door and knows jack but shows 1,000,000 prestige?

And what about someone like, oh, me, who may have multiple alts in an SG? Does your 500,000 Prestige mean you're worth more to the SG than my one character with 30,000.... or the other one, with 150,000... or the other one, with 200,000... .or the lowbie with 197?

It's like the "top 100" list at the registrar. It means absolutely nothing about how good or worthwhile an SG is.

Take whatever pride you have in what you've done for the SG from the recognition of your peers, not from a pointless number in a screen.

yes

Ahh. Misread. >.>

Yes, if you miss with the elec nuke, there's zero drain. Hit only a few, a little drain. Hit them all, fully drained - not really "many times over," it's not worse than any other nuke in that regard (which means "worse than AR or Archery which don't drain, but better than Blizzard, which drains regardless of hits since it summons a pet.")

I haven't seen it drain endurance (any more than "killing everything in range" does, at least, on a blaster.)

I'd increase the art staff to animate the problems away.

When they go through, I've always had them go through really fast - within seconds.

PM Avatea and ask her to look into it.