Madadh

It is a bump. And it does allow more options. Both of these are very good things. If I have to resepc in the future for some other reason, I may even take advantage of it, but alone, I don't think it warrants a respec. That might depend on how tight, or finely tuned the build/attack chain already is, however.

But, all things being equal, I'll generally always agree with a change that allows more options and variety.


However, upon thinking about it....

The change to snipes has 2 interesting things to touch upon. One is a potential downside, one a potential upside, as I see them..

Potential downside. The lower recharge values might make the tough to work into a seemless attack chain, and even though they may (probably almost always will) have a higher DPA than an alternate power, if it causes the attack chain to lag too much, it might not be worth it. It will probably depend on the exact numbers of the instant snipes. How fast are they now? How fast to they recharge, etc.. I haven't seen those numbers, so I can only speculate... But, if they are slower to recharge, that leads to their potential advantage...

The new procs rules, if they are all based on PPM, not proc per use, that will give a significant advantage to the snipes and longer recharge powers. I might respec at that point to change my Rad pew-pew proc machinegun to something else, as it's big advantage might very well be going away soon.. Snipes may rule the day in their place, depending, again, onhow the numbers work out. And if they grandfather in the old procs or not, like the kept Hami-Os around even with the arrival of the invention system, and knowing that there were many exploits in that Hami system. I don't expect the old procs to be grandfathered, but as the currently have 2 versions of the same IOs available, they seem to have the tech available to do it if they want.

Totally serious. Defenders are often accused of being the less effective cousins to corrs. Such a change, if it's careful to hit the right mark, powerwise, would give them a unique dynamic that shouldn't be overpowering, and yet useful in both small groups, and large. Let's face it, the end reduction dynamic is totally worthless solo, and the damage boost of quite obviously useless on large teams. It'd be nice to have a AT power that, like every other ATs, is consistently useful at all times. I like this idea in general. They only flaw with it is that it does nothing for defs without a debuff..

THat's an interesting idea..

Sadly, nope. I SO wish I could, even though I don't want to go premium. I just don't want to have to bother every month for the 10 SGs or so I have...

It's nitpicky, I'll admit, but may help avoid some confusion for some folks, so I'll point it out.

1) True
2) True, but includes a false asumption.
3) False
4) False, and assumes the same false asumption as #2.


To clarify the false assumptions.....
The rank structure, beyond the leader/redstar is actually misleading (pointless??). The leader can assign the right to edit bases and/or pay rent to only "low enough" ranked people, if he so wanted. Permissions settings are key, rank isn't. It just happens that most SGs I'm guessing use hierarchical ranks, with ever increasing levels of permissions.

True, but the edge will have greatly diminished. Not saying that's reason or not to use the defiance mechanic, too, but it bears keeping in mind.

I knew the others didn't work that way, but wasn't sure about Panacea... Good to know it does..


And..

I"m really not thrilled about the changes to the procs, from what I'm hearing. I really don't mind new procs working differently, but a massive proc nerf doesn't sound fun. I'm not even sure it was warranted. But I guess that's a totally different topic.

I think part of the reason the change was made as is was to give /Devices an edge, since it is generally agreed that as a set, it was behind the curve rather dramatically. AS implelemented, this gives /Devices an edge over other blaster secondaries. If it was further modified to be based on defiance stacking, too, than the extra benefit to /Devices would largely be lost.

Now, as to whether or not that's sufficient reason to keep it as is is another topic.

Gotta admit, I'm with Reppu on this one. This seems to hit the mark of what I was trying t say, he just said it better.

My guess would be that the other, non-snipe, changes to blasters were to have covered the increased survivability mostly. And lets not forget that I am pretty sure every blaster can hit this easily with Aim and or BU. So every blaster can take advantage of this. It's just not permanent. My guess is that the ability of only /Devices to make it easily permanent was seen as a way to bring /Devices more in line with the other secondaries.

Ah.. Thanks to those that responded, all of you.. Bugger me if I shouldn't know better than to rely on descriptions by now, but I guess I was guilty of doing just that. Guess since I rarely use it, I'd not ever noticed the discrepancy. Thanks for setting me strait.

Good to know. Although, I've never felt the urge to slot any for end mod even when I thought that they worked. In my opinion, the only thing I can ever see me being tempted to slot for end mod for would be the End Drain of Power Surge, and it seems that part does still work. But in truth, when I take a god-mode power (which I don't always want to do) I take it for the duration of massive durability, not for a recovery boost tool. I find that the baseline recovery boost that they give is often plenty of extra End for me. But really, if I'm clicking on a power like this, it's because I'm worried about one of my bars, but it's not the blue one...

Even if it was working, slotting for end mod wouldn't in any way mitigate the end crash at the end. None of the other powers out there with an end crash work that way. IF it worked, you'd recovery more end while the boost was in effect, but at the end you'd still be left with no end and recovering none for a time, just like all the other 'crash' type powers. A lot of people don't like crash type powers therefore, and don't take them. I suspect you may be in that boat. In which case, you'd not want this power even if it were fixed. Many people find 2 minutes of god-mode to be worth a crash, in which case, it's worth it to those people even as it is, since they are taking it more for the giant boost to Resistance than for the boost to recovery. I'm in the middle of the road. I don't live crash type powers, but on some alts, some builds, find them useful.

As for asking how I can be certain.... Well, I can't be 100% certain, since I'm not one of the devs... But, I can be 99% based on the fact that NONE of the other crash powers can be mitigated like that. All of the other crash powers work better or worse, based on slotting for a given amount of time, then the crash hits, and it hits for it's full amount, regardless of how it's slotted. Every full crash power always, regardless of slotting, always fully crashes when it does crash. Every power that's a 1/2 crash, always crashes for 1/2 when it crashes. For the most part, there is nothing that can be done to avoid or mitigate this. The partial exception is that some can be avoided, or partially avoided by reactivating the power again before it expires. The other exception is that if you can gain a HUGE +recovery from some other source prior to a end crash, that will mitigate. But none of the crash powers currently in the game can be mitigate the crash or avoid the crash but slotting somehow, unless you could recharge and reactivating the power prior to the crash. And as far as I know, none of the god-mode powers can get enough recharge to even try this.

So, assume that the crash can't be avoided, ever, even if the power gets bug-fixed tomorrow. If you don't want it with that assumption in mind, you'll want to respec out of this power. However, it's may be 'worthless to you' but it is far from worthless, as is. If you don't want to mess with it, or don't want to learn how to best make use of it, that's certainly your choice, but you should make that choice with the awareness of the fact that it can be of great use, even as is.

Wow! Nice find. 5 year old known issues/patch notes... Awesome. And yeah, I'd say that proves it's pretty low priority.

Not saying I disagree, but there really is no way to tell for sure..

That is great slotting if you plan to use it a lot. It should cap your res and it'll be up often. If it didn't crash, I'd probably slot this way, too. I guess it's a matter of taste and playstype. I don't use it often enough to warrant devoting that many slots to recharge, but if you do, than quite obviously it worth it in that case..


And I totally agree. That has to be a bug. I just assume that it's a low priority bug for them at the moment.

Perfect!