What does End Mod do to Force of Nature?

I mean, it's supposed to. But the +Recovery is flagged to ignore enhancements, sooo...

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Soooo...

What does it do?

Adds a pretty dark blue color to the slot it's in?

That's like saying there's no reason to put four tires on a car, since you only need one on a unicycle. The option is given, to slot End Mod on the power. It should do something. I dont know what you mean by the slang terms, "mule" and "mule fodder," but I gather you are saying that End Mod Sets shouldn't be used either. But again, that option IS available, and something I have considered using, but given that the ONLY reason to slot an End Mod set is for the set bonuses, it is hardly worth it! Other things you could slot on this power include Damage Resistance and Endurance Reduction, but what I want to slot on it is Endurance Modification. It is allowed. I just want it to work. Is that so wrong that I should consider myself stupid for trying it?

This analogy is wrong. You put 4 tires on a car because it must have 4 tires to work 1/2 decent. Unless it's one of those 3 wheeled cars, mind. The correct analogy is "There is no reasons to put 4 tires on a turnip." Because they don't do anything, it's pointless. I do exaggerate, but only slightly. End mod doesn't do anything, so there is literally no point to slotting end mod. Res does help some, but unslotted Force of Nature gets you close to the Res cap.If you have and Res from somewhere else, than you get very little gain out fo slotting FoN for Resistance either. If not, than it might be worthwhile. Might, but probably not. If +50% res across the board won't save ya, you might be better off eating an orange or a purple or both at that point. I'd much rather make sure it's up when it's needed than enhance it's resistance. But I will admit, adding Resistance is an option that does something. And it's up to an individual persons tastes, build, and play style to make that final call.

I couldn't agree with you more here. It should have an effect. It really should. No clue why it doesn't.

'Mule' means to slot a power for the effect of the IO or the IO set and not care about the effect on the power. So yes, you could slot End Mod sets. And that's not a horrible option, really. Three performance shifters gain you a move bonus, and more hit points, and if you choose the 3 Perf Shifters that have Recharge as a component, then you'll get 75% recharge out of it. Not a bad idea at all. Also one could 'mule' FoN with Steadfast +Res/Def and Steadfast KB protection. That has very minimal effect on FoN (it will get ya closer to the res cap, though) but gives ya some +Recovery, KB protection, and +3% to defense across the board. Muling a power is a good strategy, quite often.


If it's capable of taking the generic IO, then yes, it really should have an effect. End Reduction does have an effect. As does a Res IO. End Mod is allowed, too. I can understand why you'd want and should expect it to have an effect. But, as it now stands, it doesn't. Yo're not stupid for wanting it. But you would be fairly foolish to slot it that way anyhow, now that you know it doesn't work.

As I said, you could easily do this, and choose the ones that enhance recharge, get the recharge out of it, and get the set bonuses. It does make some sense, but only if you really like the set bonuses you'd be getting.

You file a bug report and then hope for the recipe to drop off of an enemy.

As an aside and for what it's worth my favored slotting these days is 3 slots with Rech, Resist/Rech and Resist/Rech. Gains you minimal loss of recharge enhancement but nets you some additional +resistance.

Does seem rather silly (read seems like a "bug") to allow Endmod enhancement that has no effect on any aspect of the power.

Doomguide

Like Heal enhancements on Sprint.

How's THAT for an analogy!

Perfect!

That is great slotting if you plan to use it a lot. It should cap your res and it'll be up often. If it didn't crash, I'd probably slot this way, too. I guess it's a matter of taste and playstype. I don't use it often enough to warrant devoting that many slots to recharge, but if you do, than quite obviously it worth it in that case..


And I totally agree. That has to be a bug. I just assume that it's a low priority bug for them at the moment.

Since at least 2007, that is very low priority.

Yep. Of ALL the versions of Force of Nature/Unstoppable, Blaster/Force Mastery/Force of Nature is the only one that properly uses Endurance Modification enhancements.

Edit: Oh, and Mastermind/Field Mastery/Force of Nature also properly uses EndMod enhancements, too. I forgot about them. :B

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I wonder if that has to do with the fact that both powers lack the -1000% recovery for 10/15 seconds?

Originally Posted by Shubbie Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.