Liz Bathory

So.. you totally missed the idea of the Devs working their way into making sure people will do content that is sometimes ignored. A WSF also makes sure AE babies will do tf's they never done... even if its just to get stronger. There is no way to power level yourself to a Very Rare Alpha slot!

For lower toons there is the double merits... for lvl 50 toons the notice of the well should be enough reason to do a lower lvl tf. Doing a lower level tf just for fun should already be enough reason.

NO! You are not less powerful even if your level is lower. You have powers available above your level and you have IO sets and enhancements. You r lvl 50 should be able to steam roll lower level tf's if you know how to play. Which you should if you played to lvl 50 the honest way.

Liz will see Jake not fighting her as enough insult. And an act of cowardsy... And refusing a fight.. even a challenge.. will mean forfeiting the match.

Bunny.. Can you make Tarana an Pure League... it seems she doesn' t have any sets yet...

And replace her with Elizabeth (Bathory Erzsebet) as I would like to test her in pvp anyway. Will add her in the signup now! Oh.. I see I will be the only one with two alts then... Is that ok?

Also... Tarana is a Cadre member... And would like to fight in that team. Will that team not become to big then?

Yesterday... on Two diff toons. One an recently played lvl 50 in a normal zone who still had fitness in her build. I logged in to respec it out.

The second a lvl 22 in AE building in Cap. Also still with fitness in the old way. As I was planning on respeccing it out anyway it was no real big deal. After a respec we still have to rebuild trays anyway.

But I hope its linked to the fitness not inherent vs. Winter event (because of the powers left in the cleared tray) vs. some old layout (? The trays left where all tray one but placed in a way my main uses them)

I am afraid it will happen on more of my still incl fitness toons though

/sonic does -ress mostly on lethal damage. So anything that does the kind of damage the /sonic does -ress too is a good primary.

I made a Dual Pistol/sonic myself. Havent played him in a few though.

I had this till two times... on old builds...

One was a toon logged in only recently... the other hadn't logged in for a few months. In my case it was np as I was respeccing them anyway for fitnessless build. But I dont see in what caused it.

The Wizard articles where often fun. And I still have some saved. But for the price catalogue I trust on Overstreet for years now.

The Wizard pricelist is too much influenced by direct hyping to be anywhere trustworthy.

I have to say I only go for price checks to make sure I am not paying too much when buying collectibles and silver age though.

Pets... or at least the melee pets... draw a huge amound of aggro. I think that at least the zombie melee attacks have a taunt part in it. When my zombies are attacking nothing hits me!

Yeh, were awesome... btw Hardrider... managed my 'immortal' badge last weeks after over 2 months of work.

4 feb.. should be able to make it.. Put me up for the aux team then. Will bring my Ill troller. She is multi functional enough.

As one who is still mainly playing (a) villain I am agreeying with Tech that a worked out returning villain is the most fun. That is also the reason I offered Elizabeth and the Court in so many plots. Even if it was already descided she was going to lose in some way.

But as also stated.. only a success from the villain will activate a solid action from the hero. The fame of a villain is defined by his/her successes. If you are a screw up you are no danger. And the biggest bad ***** are definatly no screw ups.

I already included Tarana but comepletely missed the gathering Not that she is the talky kind. She would be the type that comes for her fight and leaves.

If Alpha is entering... I am thinking about having Elizabeth come. Need a good reason for her to get her nails dirty. Fully IO-ed (last small details take ages though)... Any where she fit. Hmm.. surprise visit or a challenge from someone might work.

Agreeying on a stronger script for inactive accounts... Maybe be more severe if an account is not subbing and inactive over 3-4 months.

For making up original names... I also use history, legend, small stories and songs...
A small grip of my UNION toons...

Erzsebet Bathory
EIizabeth Bathory
Countess Bathory
Dutch Storm
Yim Wing-Chun
Siberian Sentry
GI Camouflage
Cher Nobyl
Uebermensch
Lilith Lamashtu
LiIith Lamashtu
Jack Wulfe
Shannon O'Banshee
Desert Princess
Caribean Queen
Marie Laveau
El Mariachi
Nancy Mesmer
Tarana
Dr. Silver

6 pages and I haven't responded here yet.. And that while I am playing an evil character that is also a vampire. Now for FFM that doesnt matter anyway. As a vampire I am already on his ignore list. Pretty permanent I would say. My ignore list is rather empty. A good roleplayer can find ways to accept almost everyone. Even a legion of catgirls. So many alien or other dimensional races that resemble cats in the multiverse.

Now.. what is evil to me?!
It is not Elizabeth being a vampire... I am using her the Bram Stoker way and include all the vampire vulnerabilities. Luckily Bram Stoker states that vampires can go out into sunlight. The vampire powers gives her her longlivety. And extra powers. But it is a need to kill for her to survive. In this I agree with FFM.

But Elizabeth was already evil before becoming a vampire. She is vain and used to getting her way. That is not evil in her eyes.. the aristocracy that time was like that. You had absolute power over your servants. But she went to far... seeying it as part fun and need to punish and torture. Using all as less then filth.. and trying to influence those that have power to fit into her plans.

Her plans to gain control and power. Enought o become untouchable. Which she still isn't. Those plans cannot be stopped by a few moral descisions like no killing or innocence. She simply goes over corpses if need be to gain what she needs. Just as easily as seduce someone. And if she can offer 600 souls for more power to a dark otherdimensional lord she will do just that. Those lives are worth the deal. Even if part of them would be friends. Only her direct family is immune. She always was a good mother and still holds family feelings for her own decendents.

This makes it possible to interact with others in all levels... But often (most) all will be seens as morons anyway. She will not tell you in your face unless you are not needed anymore. We are talking manipulation here. She is definatly not a mindless kill all for food vampire.

Evil in this game is always hard. The buildup makes it almost impossible. You cannot control other players or manipulate (unless you agree upon through private tell). You cannot destroy in mindless rage (although you can kill all inside a base during a mission). But it will be harder and/or impossible if the heroes or shady characters walking around in this game simply cannot or doesn't know how to interact with you. A person seeing me suddenly as a vampire will still be stopped inside Pocket D to stake me. That is an act of violence DJ Zero doesnt allow. Villains are just as much protected by the game rules as heroes from being simply killed. It is a two edged sword.

In comics the good side always wins
In City of Heroes both are just as strong and the rules of the game make both untouchable

So how do you rp this? You do what you can and you talk it over. I have absolutely no problem being hurt. But expect me to come back as I am not allowing my toon to die. Just as a hero will not allow Elizabeth to ripp his/her throat out. Also.. Dr Doom and the Joker also always return.

This is why I love the EU community... A solid well thought over discussion instead of a simple ' No'

I can see your stands... both from Ironic and Warp Factor. Still I have the feeling that the past years I have been enjoying dc stories a bit more then marvel. I collect a lot from both though. So it isnt an issue of ... who wins ... for me. I just think that I saw a lot of lame things happening in the Marvel universe especially from the moment Quesada took over. I especially see indepth problems in DC while Marvel generally goes for the big fights.

At the moment the DCUO will effect the visibility of the DC franchise a LOT! Whatever personal idea's on the game... it will draw in a lot of players.

For movies... Disney just took over and it is still unsure if the movie franchize of Marvel will go on its current ' winning' streak. I actually thought both Iron Man movies where perfect. And Thor looks promising. Compairing it with Green Lantern... unsure. Thor and Green Lantern seem just as epic or lame as the other. Based on point of view. Only sales after release will tell who draws the most viewers.

Back to the topic of the OP... If this is the new Venom I just dont like it. It is not vicious enough and more a rehashed Deathstroke/Deathpool/Punisher type. The originality of the character seems broken down. And that is the character I knew and loved.

I know that Elizabeth would love to own that chair

ok.. so DC is coming out with a fantastic game drawing new interresse to theior universe... and is still making movies just as good as Marvel is. DC at the moment has better stories and better art.

And Marvel is really really killing their whole universe. And I am a Marvel fan ownling complete series of old comics...

This Venom is the worst idea EVER!

If this looks anyway like the old 70's movies and less epic then the movies done... it will fail. More realistic is not working in this case I am afraid :S

Cool.. new stuff is always cool! I will keep my account active for sure...

There is one logical thing I notice though and have to say here...

- Last time this happened (loyalty programm) was during the first months of start of CO. I can see it was partly meant to keep players from quitting COX and going over to CO. So those subs where still active if and/when CO would fall flat.

- Now its again... and strangely it falls in the months that DCUO is starting up. I don't believe in coincidence :S

But yeh! to free stuff...