Leo_G

I've sort of always tried to express this to you, Sam. Not trying to be argumentative but just saying.

Entertainment is entertainment and we should never try to limit ourselves to what type of entertainment we 'prefer' because tastes change over time. I remember when I used to watch and love WWF wrestling back in elementary/junior high. In highschool, WWE seemed like utter crap because of how fake it was. Now, I can watch WWE with my nephews and actually enjoy it if only to say to myself "wtf, Undertaker is still out there with his old-***, bustin foos? Awesome".

If I were to give you some homework, I'd tell you to finish A future lost and then for your next posted story, make it as crazy, campy and/or ridiculous as you can stand. For the fun of it

It's not set in stone but go to the City of Heroes wikia (not Paragonwiki), scroll down to the Coming Soon section on the front page and click Savage Melee.

The first link is only a week + month old. That's not that old.

Here's a few to start you off:

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...ht=linked+alts

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...ht=linked+alts

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...ht=linked+alts

And now, after playing for years and rolling, re-rolling and side-rolling characters, I've come to an epiphany:

Get over it.

Frankly, you should be grateful you can roll out your old character with new surprises, abilities and looks. That you can have multiples of your favorite character that even partially resembles your character's concept. That isn't a bad thing. Not having the option to have it your exact way isn't so much a drawback as it is reality. In the real world, you just have to work with what's given to you a lot of the time.

I want iaido for my main Katana scrapper...that isn't even on the board so why do you feel entitled to have your customizations when you'll be getting your set regardless?

I stopped caring. They're badges that do zip for play. You don't get graded for completion of the game. If this comes next week or another 7 years from now, I don't see much point in raving on about it.

Haha, no.

Weird, I made a suggestion a while back called 'linked alts' which is basically just creating alts that share the same name on the same server but it was shot down at the time.

To boil the issue down to its essence, all you really need is for your new alt to have the same name as your main character of choice. You wouldn't need to delete the original with their badges, you wouldn't have to scrounge for a name, people that know your main instantly know this alt and you have the concept capability of having a character have multiple kinds of powersets (just not at the same time).

If all your problem amounts to is 'ohnoes mah badgez' then cry a river (not to be entirely rude). There is just no reason to make a fuss over such fluff. At all.

The person I was replying to said a whole bunch of TV tropes names which was the part of his post that I was *not* replying to (I snipped that part).

I specifically replied to the point of his post saying japanese have a particular style which is what differs them wholly from american brand entertainment.



...guy can throw the whole ocean at you.

Who said it was a trope? Or that trope in particular.

Mundane =/= Idiot.

All I was saying is anime characters might have powers considered 'not cool' when you simply describe them...like the ability to control paper. But Lelouch's ability to give irresistible commands sounds somewhat tame...until he tells you not to die and you become practically immortal...

I dunno. I tend to feel topical writing is circumstantial. You wouldn't expect 'anime style writing' because most of the topics, jokes, satires and such are written for that culture and that's no 'fault' of a style of writing but the fault of the target audience.

If there's some sort of inherent style other than settings/topics/jokes/cultural references you're speaking of, I'd be for reading some examples. Writing is writing, IMO, and usually writers have their own style, not a full-on culture limiting themselves to a particular style.

That said, as well as adding onto what Frei mentioned, there's room for a LOT of different stylings of story, looks and themes but one I think seems unique to 'anime' is the mundane becoming great. And I don't particularly mean a character, per-say but moreso a kind of ability.

Take, for instance, Reed Richards. He's probably got one of the most versatile of powers with the ability to stretch himself and yet how much *** does he kick (not with his inventions but his radiation-accident powers)? Luffy, on the other hand, probably kicks the most *** in his respective world with the same type of ability.

Actually, I sort of feel CoX darkness powers takes a page from anime if only because the powers of non-light is rather mundane. Sure, there's Raven of the Teen Titans and I think Ebon from Static Shock but you'll probably see more anime references to manipulating darkness and it's usually a very formidable ability.

Um, like everything in Code Geass is a mundane power turned crazy. Just got off work but there's a lot of powers you'd be all like "meh, I'd never take that powerset" and in the anime it's just awesome. Would you be behind a 'Paper Control' powerset? If it was like agent paper from RoD or Konan from from Naruto, I'd say 'heck yeah!'.

What the pancake are you talking about?

...you've described, like half of Shonen while dismissing a great deal of American non-superhero comics in one stroke.

To put it bluntly, you can't say Anime ain't superheroic just because there are many broad genre within it. American comics have many genre in it too; comedy, horror, mystery, drama and yet it also has those super heroes in it that you dearly focus on and make an example of. Newsflash: anime and manga have those examples too.

Well, you're not correct here, there are crossovers with the different manga characters of different titles. The difference being, the original title usually has its story set in stone and follows that until the end. Unless you feel the contrived convoluted web of interlocking history of Marvel/DC is a good thing (to me, I feel it just gets in the way of telling a story), then it's nothing like CoX regardless.

CoX takes place in its own universe with its own rules and its own history. No comic from some other title is going to affect it and our stories can simply fall within its boundaries. You can do the same with practically any fictional story and play along. So in that regard, CoX is properly more similar to a manga (that is, it takes place in its own isolated universe unaffected by other streams of stories) than any type of american comic you can describe.

I think you're forgetting some things:

Ice Storm can add more (-10%) recharge debuff in the same AoE, same vector and distance to the same amount of foes as Blizzard (that is, around a corner, out of LoS at range).

Blizzard can also debuff ToHit by 20% so you can slot it for something like -30% ToHit if you like.

And again, the nuke is ranged. You can technically nuke 2 things at once by Blizzard a spawn + Burn out and Blizzard another. For a PBAoE nuke, you have to move near another spawn to do that. Oh, and it's cold damage. What resists cold?

Concerning relative performance, it's probably best then to rank the current live performance and see what's the best blast set, the middle blast sets and what's the worst blast set. After that, just pick and choose any set from beta and compare it to that scale.

Like Fire, Archery and Water are probably ranked the best sets for AoE dmg and Fire for damage period but Water might rank so high because it gets an early pass for crashless non-weapon nukes.

IMO, Sonic, even with the extended range on its tier 3 blast and crashless PBAoE mid-rech nuke, probably won't rank higher than Arch and definitely not fire. In mitigation and utility, sonic either ranks the same or lower than Water as team damage boosting might help but the 'staying alive' utility in Water can help you do more damage as well.

I have no experience with Ice and I probably have rose-tinted glasses when it comes to Dual Pistols so I'll leave that alone. Sonic is good, but it won't outpace the best of the current rankings so when illustrating your visual example, there should definitely be a lot more overlap.

Now making Shout faster (making Howl and Shockwave faster would help too) and giving it possibly extra utility, you can control how much of an improvement to damage the set gets but also boosting its other attributes to make it a competitive set in other respects.

So yeah, to boost Sonic, I'd just make Shout much faster, Howl a tiny bit faster and bit faster still and since the set has no snipe to use the fast-snipe/range boost features, add a unique one like a self +res buff after stacking so many -res attacks on the foe with the added feature of extra absorb if you have a sustain effect on you.

Dual Pistols got a damage boost by improving the casts on its blasts but I'd also enjoy a utility improvement to the alternate ammo types as well.

Ice Blast has lots of potential extras you could add on to make the set even more of a monster of mitigation while also shortening the cast of Bitter Freeze Ray and maybe Frost Breath. -ToHit, more knockdown, extra dmg on held foes...there's lots of potential. If the set needs a right-out boost to damage is yet to be seen.

Don't read the wikia site...(the CoH wikia, not Paragon wiki)

If you think about it...
Batman created by Bob Kane
The Joker created by Jerry Robinson and Bill Finger
Mr. Freeze again by Bob Kane
Poison Ivy by Robert Kanigher and Sheldon Moldoff
Ra's al Ghul by writer Dennis O'Neil and artist Neal Adams...

What I see as the difference, to me, is a comic character creator created a world and a character and wrote about that character in that world and then other guys kind of jumped in and make 'fan-fic' involving that character with their own made-up ones. It's just for American comics, those 'fan-fic' stories are renamed 'canon' so long as the original creator says "Yeah, whatever. That's cool".

I don't have a problem with it, but the difference you're seeing is input from multiple guys putting their spin on a character and his group of adversaries.

Can't say much about Bleach but I can tell you about One Piece and the enemies Luffy faces.

Captain Buggy: a pirate with a crew
Crocodile: an ex-pirate/shichibukai (ex-pirates with extremely high bounties) who no longer has a crew but headed a secret organization created by himself to conquer a country
Enel: a cultist leader who rules over a county in the sky by pretending to be God
Magellan: warden of the most impenetrable, inescapable prison in the world
Any of the 4 top dogs in the military: who protect the world from pirates but also by keeping world changing secrets from the public's knowledge

There's plenty of difference between each foe he faces and the circumstances between them. Some are dogs of the government, some *ARE* the government, some manipulate the government and some just don't care about laws. To state that pirates are just pirates and marines are just marines seems inaccurate. How is Scarecrow, Bane or Penguin any different from each other or the Joker? Their motivations? Their clothes? Their attitudes? Newsflash: any foe I list of Luffy's will have differences in a list of categories as well, you just have to actually know the story just like you'd have to know Batman's to tell the difference between bank-robbing villain #3 and #4.

Also, to my knowledge, the story, characters and world of One Piece is maintained by one man where for Batman, he's probably had hundreds of writers...so there's that difference. Each character in One Piece is more often than not based on inspirations or people that Eiichiro Oda knows, such as basing some of the pirate characters off of people he met in real life.

Again, what you're witnessing is probably more to do with writer ADHD. To me, it doesn't matter if the spectrum of foes is wide or narrow, it if doesn't make sense, it's crap regardless. Making it not crap is hit-or-miss depending on how clear a story the writers are trying to tell.

I think the reason I like anime is, sort of unlike most american comics, it has a beginning, a middle and (most importantly) an end. Not that comics don't ever end, but they have a higher tendancy to completely conclude at some point or at least seem to indicate a stopping point by some finite limit of time. The true american comics seem to want to go on forever regardless of how much they change...The Gargoyle's example above seems to be more like an anime than a comic (it's neither so not even sure why it was brought up) since there seems to be a concluding point for our protagonists. Batman and Spiderman will go on forever and ever.

Yeah, there is all that. I guess I wasn't thinking about all the situations but I think it'd be a cool power for when it would work mechanically.

I'd agree with Lothic on the morphing travel. But even if the power did lock out your other powers, I think something you'd get that you can't with the store-bought powers: Customization.

I'd love it if, for a power choice and pool cost in your build, I can pick 'Animal Movement' that give you custom options. What about this?

Animal Morph (Toggle; +movement, +jump, power suppress [like Walk and other powers]): Custom options include various canine and feline models and the addition of any new animal models released later...and you can *COLOR* them!! Also a 'no fx' option for those that don't want to change forms with this power.

Bonus Power*S* exclusive from each other...

Stealthy Hunter (Toggle [can only be used with Animal Morph]; +run, +stealth, +def All) custom options include various 4/8-legged animal models, colorable.

Beast Flight (Toggle [can only be used with Animal Morph]; +fly, +perception) custom options would include winged animals of various types.

Flash Paw (Click [can only be used with Animal Morph, cannot have Beast Flight/Stealthy Hunter on]; self-teleport, +speed) grants movement speed buffs to all for a moderate duration after the port but does not stack. Custom options include morphing into any of the animal forms available.

Explosive Shift (Passive; PBAoE knockdown [suppressed in Stealthy Hunter]) Every time your character activates one of the clicks/toggles, foes nearby are knocked down by the extreme shape change of your character. This effect suppresses for 10 sec after using any of the bonus powers.

But yeah, the goal is, with this pool and the choice of the Animal Morph power, you basically a slottable Coyote Run with your choice of visuals along with the option for better speed + stealth OR flight with your choice of visuals OR a Translocation clone power with extra speed afterwards all with the chance of knocking foes near you down as you do it. You get this with the downfall of yeah...not using other powers while you do it.

I can sort of deal with that, really. I just really really really want to have choice looks for characters (I've got a list of them) that can change their form into animals with a variety of movement options. You *could* make each a separate power, but some people might have concepts for characters that shift into all sorts of things and taking multiple powers that lock you out of your powers might be pushing things too far.

Anyway, yeah, that's probably another badly thought out idea up there >_>

And just rethinking the idea as I was proofreading just before submitting the reply: You could make Explosive Shift the choice power that then grants the other 3 powers (you don't need the 1st one this way) where you can basically slot for KB (hey, a decent place for a Force Feedback proc at least) and Stealthy Hunter, Beast Flight and Flash Paw would be the bonus powers but unslottable. They might not be unslottable but you can build them, right out of the box, as decently strong and efficient travel. Then you just have the option to choose what animal each power used and the animal's color.

Jack_NoMind be trollin' but for the greater good

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