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Originally Posted by Mad Grim

The Overwhelming Force proc (the KB to KD enhancement) cannot be gotten from the game anymore. It was a reward in the summer blockbuster event. It is only available on the market, and I suggest getting it very soon as the price is skyrocketing due to there being no way to get it anymore.

Originally Posted by Jeremia_Bane

Bots/traps doesn't have pets at the softcap for defense coupled with a horrible heal. The protector pets are also notoriously bad at reapplying their bubble midcombat not to mention they are only affected by one bubble each and have zero defense to start with and no resistance to smashing to boot(hello all you SS themed enemies).

I really feel Bots/Traps doesn't do aswell vs stronger enemy groups. Not enough def, built in failing cascade via protectors, FFG can be killed or "mispath", no real heals and slots etc. Its well and nice for soloing some AVs due to massive -regen or unproblematic enemy groups, but otherwise i find it lacking.

I mean just compare it to Thugs/Time, you can almost softcap ALL your pets just between Farsight and enforcers. Also you get all 5 pet auras without sacrificing a single slot in your petpowers(which will softcap them all easily) and then you get a -14% tohit aura ontop of that and two AoE heals just to feel better.

Edit: I don't find Beast/ to be squishy at all. On the contrary, the only set that feels tougher is maybe demon(and thats situational depending on what damagetype they face). The lions especially are easily the toughest LTs i have ever seen, between their high resistances and defense plus selfheal. First MM that i set UP the difficulty while fighting vahzilok, and thats plenty tough in my book.

Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei

Thugs/Time FTW!

Originally Posted by Psylenz

The build is not my favorite. It is far from ideal. I really like storm summoning, and you neglected to select hurricane. The enforcers are not slotted for damage even though they have the potential to be the most damaging force of your minions. Freezing rain should have as much recharge squeezed into the slotting as possible. You also have not slotted the edict of the master pet bonus.

More slotting problems are in snow storm. Between snow storm and freezing rain, extra slotting for slow is poinless. Even going for set bonuses, the acc portion of that slow set is wasted in autohit snowstorm. I see you went for the fighting pool, tricked out tough, but you left weave under-slotted for defense.

The chill mastery selections leave me scratching my head as well. Ice blast isn't going to draw or hold enough aggro to tankermind. If you were to pick up Flash Freeze and slot minimally for accuracy, you would be able to sleep a big AoE area even for a few seconds while the thugs dealt with any of the foes that didn't sleep. Frozen armor would allow you to stack more defense with steamy mist and weave for more mastermind defense.

Personally, I would ditch the fighting pool, pick up hurricane, maneuvers for additional defense to the thugs, and tactics for tohit, +perception, and protection from confusion. Slot Freezing Rain with 3 generic recharge IOs, an achilles heel proc, and some defense debuff. If all you wanted to do with hurricane is post up with the ranged thugs and keep them out of melee danger while the bruiser ran around and made friends you would be farther ahead of the game.

Originally Posted by Kodoku

Perma Painbringer with 1100%+ regen isn't innate to the set. But once you boost it that far, your Bruiser can charge into x8/+4 spawns and live more than long enough to start his AoE knockdown spam while your Arsonist lights things up. With T3 Barrier Core, my Bruiser tanked Nightstar for over a minute in a rather messy BAF trial.