Hybrid?

I know back then Hybrid launched that most of the powers either didn't apply to pets or didn't apply correctly to pets. Since then, have the issues ever been addressed?

Redacted. I was incorrect.

I dunno what Hybrid you're talking about Dechs, but I know for a fact that at least Control T4 Radial doesn't ever pass to pets under any circumstances, and I think the other control/assault ones are the same way. You can summon while it's on, or toggle it while they're alive, and either way, the pets do nothing.

Though, by all means, if some of them DO work the way you said, and you've personally tested it, feel free to let me know, but from what I gathered, that was basically a myth.

Hybrid Support works just fine. Billy is correct, the 2nd post is not. I just verified seconds ago.

Just tested it, Assault doesn't work on pets neither before nor after summoning. It also doesn't grant the passive +DMG chance.
Support does work on pets after summoning, but it doesn't grant the passive END discount.
Will test the others later and post here the results

Well that sucks. I made a few tiers of the control and just saw this post. Very disappointing.

To be fair, I got confirmation from Arbiter Hawk a while back that it was a bug, so hopefully a fix comes down the pipeline soon.

Actually, to correct some information...

Assault and Control hybrids DO work but only if you summon your pets while the toggle is running.

I have built a T4 Assault for my Mastermind as well as Support. I did notice that the Assault +15% damage buffs were activating. But, I don't think the damage buffs were applying correctly because it seemed to have no effect on my kill speed.

I will make a point of testing this stuff more thoroughly to see if it helps at all. From what I observed, the buff does trigger but it is unclear if the buff is then applying to the pets correctly.

Yes. As it stands now, only the pets you summon while the toggle is running will gain the effects. And, they will gain the effect every time you use it. But, any pets summoned normally will not gain the effect.

Alright, thanks to the Beta server's 1inf Empyreans, I was able to work out what's really happening, and of course, everyone's wrong!

So, I'mma go through everything I've worked out, from the top.

There are four Hybrid trees: Assault, Control, Melee, Support.
On an MM, melee is designed for tankermind-style play. Buffs the PC only, not the pets. This is WAI.
On an MM, or anybody for that matter, Support is capable of buffing pets. There are rules relating to max targets, to max total buff recieved, and to certain versions giving pets twice the buff that PCs get. All of this is WAI.

The problems we've been having have all come down to either Assault or Control. But different Assault/Control powers have different effects. So, let's break it down by type of effect;

Assault has two effects. One is a chance for all attacks (damage-dealing powers) to apply a buff to your damage. The other is a chance for all attacks to deal extra damage (commonly called doublehit).
Control has three effects. One is a chance for all mez powers to have an extra 1-mag mez effect of the same type occur, one is a chance for extra damage on mezzed enemies, and one is a chance for all attacks to apply a mez effect (immob, fear, stun, or some combination).

Of these five effects, three flat-out DO NOT work on pets. Rather, the Control chance-for-attacks-to-mez doesn't work, and there is no generated text in any window indicating that either doublehit, or Control's chance-to-damage-mezzed-enemies effect work. Both effects generate text when my MM uses his own attacks, but nothing when the pets do.

The remaining two, the chance for +1 mag mez, and the chance for +dmg on attacks, work weirdly. Specifically, each eligible power on each MM pet you have is able to proc these based on whether the pet had that power when you toggled the Hybrid.

That's a tad confusing, so I'll give an example. Let's say I summon my Assault Bot. On summon, he already has Plasma Blast, and Smash. Then, I turn on Assault T1, which has a +dmg-on-attack proc effect. Because he already had Plasma Blast and Smash, they can't proc the effect. But if I now use Equip Robot and Upgrade Robot on him, he has Dual Plasma Blast, Flamethrower, Swarm Missiles, and Incendiary Swarm Missiles all get added. Since the Hybrid was on when these powers were earned, they can proc the effect until the Hybrid turns off/is turned off.

So yeah, One possible Assault effect, and one possible Control effect can be made to work, assuming you summon/upgrade the pets (not just summon) AFTER turning it on. And, AFAIK, using the upgrade powers on a pet doesn't reset this, so it only works the first time you equip/upgrade/whatever. The other possible effects, the pets ignore completely.

(Small caveat: The above data is technically based on the I24 beta, not live. I sincerely doubt there's a difference between live and beta on this issue.)

See the problem with your test though is it doesn't confirm whether or not the effects that do trigger from the pets are actually applying correctly.

Still, the fact that the pets will only pick up the effects if you summon them while Hybrid is active is a problem. It forces you into a mode of hoping that none of your pets die while Hybrid is off or they won't gain the effect. This pretty much forces a Mastermind to only build Support or Melee. And, frankly, considering that Masterminds already usually pick Leadership, I would think Assault or Control hybrids would be better choices so as to either boost your pet damage significantly for 2 minutes OR use Control Hybrid to add additional control effects.

By the way, I have seen Control Hybird (Core/Left side) work for my Dark/Dark controller's pets. But, again, they only trigger if I've summoned my pets while Control is running.

Again, the problem is you can't use Control/Assault unless you are willing to put up with 2 whole minutes of not resummoning pets. Even then, it is unclear if those effects are applying correctly.

What I am seeking is confirmation that the numbers that display from Assault are actually applying. The couple times I have tried using it I did not notice any significant increase in the kill speed of my henchmen.

As far as I know, the combat attributes display only shows numbers if they're applying. Can't show them otherwise, actually.