Thug/Poison vs Thug/Pain Vs Demon/Poison


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Hey all, I want to make a MM and actually try to get one to 50 but I cant chose which MM to go for. I have my mind set on AV killing and HUGE spawn kill but I dont know which to choose from. I know the buiser will be doing the melee damage and him+ noxious gas would be a good combo plus the new splash affect for poison. As for Pain the Heals and the perc that come with it seem nice also and I cant make my mind up plz help me decide and can someone make a build for the one you see best fit plz

Also im kind of looking into demons but I dont know much about them so some info would also be nice

Thanks again


 

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I absolutely adore my Thugs/Pain at 50 with a couple billion in IO's and T3/T4 incarnate powers. But /Pain is not much of a solo powerhouse before you get into IO sets and incarnate powers and can seriously improve your healing output and pet mitigation.

Perma Painbringer with 1100%+ regen isn't innate to the set. But once you boost it that far, your Bruiser can charge into x8/+4 spawns and live more than long enough to start his AoE knockdown spam while your Arsonist lights things up. With T3 Barrier Core, my Bruiser tanked Nightstar for over a minute in a rather messy BAF trial.

My all-time favorite character, though not more impressive than any other while leveling up.

I solo (most) AV's with ease; Rikti Pylons and some GM's are not a threat to my pets or myself, but take a while to kill because the combo lacks any form of -Regen.

Of your three options, consider this a vote for Thugs/Pain.

Demons are nice, but the Lts. and Boss are endurance hogs, and their endgame slotting is particularly tricky to get right. I'd recommend Thermal for Demons, though that combo is fairly cookie cutter. There's usually a reason, however, why a given combo is cookie-cutter. In this case that would be the ability to have pets with several damage resistances in the 74 to 90% range, supported by an AoE heal...


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Originally Posted by UnleashedPower View Post
Hey all, I want to make a MM and actually try to get one to 50 but I cant chose which MM to go for. I have my mind set on AV killing and HUGE spawn kill but I dont know which to choose from. I know the buiser will be doing the melee damage and him+ noxious gas would be a good combo plus the new splash affect for poison. As for Pain the Heals and the perc that come with it seem nice also and I cant make my mind up plz help me decide and can someone make a build for the one you see best fit plz

Also im kind of looking into demons but I dont know much about them so some info would also be nice

Thanks again
Poison is a single target set; it's not for large spawn killing. The recently added splash is very small, and only spreads at half effectiveness. Plus Noxious Gas is up only about half the time. I wouldn't recommend Poison for what you're looking for.


 

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Go with Demons, but the secondary is a tougher choice.
Demons are just the best pets I have tried out of all of them.


 

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Of the ones you listed, I think thugs/pain is the way to go. I am sure all will be fine tho.

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I'd throw a Thug/Dark in the mix. That's my favorite mastermind set.


 

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Demon/Pain or Thugs/Dark is nice ideas.

Demon/Dark gives you Res to all(S/L/E/N/F/C/Psi) fairly good heals(T2 Demon, Fuffly, yourself) Controlls(Dark Powers, T3 Demon, Fuffly). All around Demon/Dark is good.

Toss in one of the 2 patron pools(Soul/Mace) for Toxic and you're golden.


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Perma Painbringer with 1100%+ regen isn't innate to the set. But once you boost it that far, your Bruiser can charge into x8/+4 spawns and live more than long enough to start his AoE knockdown spam while your Arsonist lights things up. With T3 Barrier Core, my Bruiser tanked Nightstar for over a minute in a rather messy BAF trial.
1100% regen WoW. I dunno if Im just not that knowledgable about pain dom. But that sounds friggin awesome. How did you accomplish if I may ask. Im working on spiritual atm but Im not sure if I want the right side of the tree or the left. Im also demons/pain but I also have a thugs/pain Im slowly bringing up.