Making a TW/DA Brute


Energy_Blaze

 

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Ive never played a brute and a few years back I used to have a BS/DA scrapper and loved it.

So I think a DA Brute with a huge weapon should be some awesome fun.

Ive been told its going to be a pain in the *** for a while but Im pretty sure I can get through it. Figured Id spend some points and get the stamina and health enhancements off the store for some help.

So I wanted to know do I cram as much end reduction as I can while leveling? And is there any skippable abilities in TW? I figured the defensive sweep would be essential in my early levels.

I prett much took everything in da on my scrapper and I figure Im doing the same on brute.

If anyone has any advice for me it is greatly appreciated. Have a nice day!


 

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I just leveled one.

You have to be aware its really, really, really hard on endo. DA has 0 endo tools, TW is endo hungry. TW is basicly unsustainable on endurance before you score x3 proc shifters with Energy Mastery OR unless you are Regen/WP/Elec.
TW/DA is even worste. Right now I have a temporary build with the 3 proc shifters, Mirable, Numina and no purples.
I just scored T4 Ageless (no Agility yet) and its fine for one minute than its abit harsh on non-stop action (AVs or chain spawn). It should be ok with 2 or 3 purple 4%rec and Agility (or just Cardiac but I'm not going that way).

On the paper DA is amazing. Nearly 50% all resist and a small edge on def so its easier to hit caps, the best heal in the game and CC auras. From a defensive point of view its arguably the best you can find.
It has no hole. No psy hole, no toxic hole, no weakness to regen debuffs. The only thing you dont have it DDR but noone has high res AND DDR (not yet at least).

As for the skippable.
Defensive Sweep is skippable on a defense type build but it offers a LotG option.
Crushing Blow is Skippable if you use Gloom instead but you are probably going to go for Cardiac.
Titan Sweep is skippable but its a very good AoE and I wouldnt unless I go for TW/FA.


 

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Here's a build...it's pricey...but extremely good.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.958
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Nightmare's Shadow v2.0: Level 50 Mutation Brute
Primary Power Set: Titan Weapons
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Crushing Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(5), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(5)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- RctvArm-ResDam:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(7), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(7), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(9), GA-3defTpProc:50(9)
Level 2: Death Shroud -- FotG-ResDeb%:50(A), FotG-Acc/End/Rech:50(11), FotG-Dam/End/Rech:50(11), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(13), Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(13), Erad-Dmg:30(15)
Level 4: Murky Cloud -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(15), RctvArm-ResDam:40(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(17), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(19), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(19)
Level 6: Titan Sweep -- FotG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech:50(A), FotG-Acc/End/Rech:50(21), FotG-Dam/End/Rech:50(21), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(23), Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(23), Erad-Dmg:30(25)
Level 8: Build Momentum -- Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg:20(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit:20(25)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(27), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(27), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(29)
Level 12: Follow Through -- SBrutesF-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(A), SBrutesF-Rech/Fury:50(29), SBrutesF-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), Mako-Acc/Dmg:50(31), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(48)
Level 14: Taunt -- Zinger-Dam%:50(A)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(36), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(36), Theft-+End%:30(37), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen:50(37), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37)
Level 18: Rend Armor -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(42), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg:50(42), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx:50(43), Hectmb-Dam%:50(43)
Level 20: Cloak of Darkness -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(34), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(36), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(50)
Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(33), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(34), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(34)
Level 26: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(33), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(33)
Level 28: Whirling Smash -- SBrutesF-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), SBrutesF-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46), SBrutesF-Acc/Dmg:50(46), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(48), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(48), Erad-Dmg:30(50)
Level 30: Cloak of Fear -- N'mare-EndRdx/Fear:50(A), N'mare-Acc/EndRdx:50(40), N'mare-Acc/Fear:50(42)
Level 32: Arc of Destruction -- Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(39), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg:50(39), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(40), Armgdn-Dam%:50(40)
Level 35: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(39)
Level 38: Soul Transfer -- Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:50(A)
Level 41: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(50)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(45)
Level 47: Superior Conditioning -- P'Shift-End%:50(A)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%:50(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 4: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 4: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(43)
Level 4: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 4: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod:50(45), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(46)
Level 1: Momentum
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Degenerative Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Warworks Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Ageless Radial Epiphany
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Currently Playing:
Rage King - SS/Regen Brute (50+3)
Soulfire Darkness - Dark/Fire Tank (50+2)
Deaths Final Embrace - Kat/Dark Brute (50+3)
ULTIMATE REGEN GUIDE I22

 

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Thanks for the build example. Looks pretty awesome.

Definitely saving that bad boy.


 

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Another tip is to get the theft of essence proc as soon as possible. It will help keep Dark Regen from draining you every time you use it.

And now for the build which is also a pricey one but extremely survivable.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.96
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Lord Razerei: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Titan Weapons
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Defensive Sweep -- Erad-Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(46), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(48), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(48)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(3), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(9), S'fstPrt-ResKB(9)
Level 2: Titan Sweep -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SBrutesF-Dmg/Rchg(15), SBrutesF-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), SBrutesF-Rech/Fury(25), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 4: Murky Cloud -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(5), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(7), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), GA-3defTpProc(36)
Level 6: Build Momentum -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Follow Through -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(37), Hectmb-Dam%(39), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(11), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(11), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 12: Death Shroud -- SBrutesF-Acc/Dmg(A), SBrutesF-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(25), SBrutesF-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), FotG-ResDeb%(27), FotG-Dam/End/Rech(31), FotG-Acc/End/Rech(31)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Theft-+End%(A), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Heal(17), Erad-Acc/Rchg(19), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(19), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23)
Level 18: Rend Armor -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Achilles-ResDeb%(42)
Level 20: Cloak of Darkness -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(21), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(21), SW-ResDam/Re TP(37)
Level 22: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(33), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(33), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 26: Whirling Smash -- Erad-Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Dmg(34), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), FrcFbk-Rechg%(36)
Level 28: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(29), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 32: Arc of Destruction -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(43), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(45), Armgdn-Dam%(45)
Level 35: Oppressive Gloom -- HO:Endo(A)
Level 38: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(39)
Level 41: Superior Conditioning -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(45)
Level 47: Taunt -- Mocking-Acc/Rchg(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(48), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(50), Mocking-Taunt(50)
Level 49: Soul Transfer -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 4: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(15)
Level 4: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(13)
Level 1: Momentum
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crysys View Post
Peacebringers at least got a recent overhaul. They moved up from sucktastic to craptacular.
50's - Controllers- Ill/Emp | Ill/Storm | Fire/Kin | Dark/Dark | Brutes- SS/Fire | Fire/WP | Scrappers - Spines/Fire | Kat/Regen | Elec/Shield | DM/Shield | Dominators- Plant/Psi | Tankers- Inv/Fire | Ice/NRG | Crab Spider | Warshade |

 

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The knockback is pretty rough lol. Gonna go for acrobatics atleast while leveling since Im using mostly so's. At one point got chained into a wall for what felt like an eternity while on a tf.


 

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Thats what I would be using

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Thats Planet's build to compare
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Mine has 10% less haste, slightly more recovery but quite less -end on attacks. Both need Ageless to run anyways. Mine is SL caped for incarnate.


 

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One 4 pts KB protection will help you alot, acrobatics costs too many slots and will gimp the build. If you notice, my build has 10 pts KB protection...6 of iot comes from the 2 places I have Fury of the Gladiator 3 slotted and 4 of it comes from 1 IO. You will still get knocked back some, but not nearly as much with 10 pts KB protection


Currently Playing:
Rage King - SS/Regen Brute (50+3)
Soulfire Darkness - Dark/Fire Tank (50+2)
Deaths Final Embrace - Kat/Dark Brute (50+3)
ULTIMATE REGEN GUIDE I22

 

Posted

Thanks for the info.


 

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I have a tw/da that I got to about 37 or so. I went to other projects I found more interesting at the time. I will come back to this eventually because of the concept I created for my toon. The combo is pretty beastly on paper, but I am also terrified of the end use. I am also a little unclear on which auras to keep on my build as I have only done da once and deleted it at about 30 on a tanker.

The posters here have given solid advice- no matter how you cut it, you are going to have to build very carefully around endurance management with this combo.


Words to the wise aren't necessary- it's the stupid ones that need them.

"You're right...I forgot...being constantly at or the near the damage cap is a big turn off. Definitely not worth it."
- Vitality

 

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My TW/DA brute is only L25, but I've been pretty satisfied with his endurance performance so far. However, I have the Theft of Essence proc in Dark Regeneration, and a PerfShifter proc in Stamina. I've also totally ignored damage enhancement in the attacks, instead focusing on endurance reduction. May not work for everyone, but I find that with Fury, his damage is just fine for me. I also run at -1/x3, and that seems to also help.


Fading Eclipse (L50 Ill/Rad)
Chosen of War (L22 Inv/Axe)
Fulcrum Eclipse (L24 Kin/Rad)
Available Light (Something/Something Blaster)
and a cast of thousands!