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What....Does that have to do with the moon base?

Couldn't it at least be reworked to not drop toggles, or maybe put the character into "only affecting self" mode? This is something I've been running into a lot lately, as I use the hoverboard and carpet as alternatives to travel powers on some characters because of concept, and in some cases, there's a fair bit of really irritating retoggling to do whenever I get where I'm going. I kinda get that there should be drawbacks to keep the pool travel powers palatable. Same goes for the coyote run power, actually.

"Hi, I'm Zenlon, and I like to invent other people's positions myself so I can knock them down more easily."


Nobody's demanding that each Mastermind set recieve a female, and nobody's crying the sexism card.

The devs HAVE CLAIMED that one of the barriers to doing female MM pets is that sexism will RESULT. This thread is about shooting that claim DOWN.

Further, Nobody's demanding that each mastermind set recieve a female. What is being asked for is the ability for masterminds to customize their pets the way every other AT can customize their powers. By choosing between -options-, which prefferably would include the ability to choose between pets of different genders for those of us who would like to offer equal opportunity employment.

And just so you know, it doesn't make you look very good when you barrel into a thread and post a contrary opinion without even understanding the position you're arguing against.

No, but just because they've considered and answered it doesn't mean we can't say we think they're -wrong- and try to change their minds.

I...don't think you know what a "petition" is.

You don't -have- to police that much, honestly, just enough to convince the player base that such behavior is frowned upon. But you're ignoring the fact that this stuff -already goes on-, just not with MM pets. Also, running a pimp MM would either be largely innocuous (IE, the guy would have a vaguely offensive description and sexy female henchmen, and who should really care?) Or rather labor intensive (if the guy actually "sells services" and roleplays it) The person that's going to do the former is probably already running around with a character named "tanlines" that is using the white bikini texture to pretend his character is running around naked, and the character that's going to do the latter is probably already a member of one of the prostitute supergroups on Virtue.

Unless the female henchmen come with baked in sex appeal costumes, You're just not going to encourage any behavior in this game that isn't already taking place. What you -would- be doing is enabling a large variety of players to indulge in the kind of personal creativity that this game is famous for.

The answer I have is IGNORE the people who offend you, and report the ones you can't stand to ignore. You're -already- doing this, and I would bet you a HUNDRED DOLLARS and a box of cookies that there would not be a statistically relevant increase in this kind of behavior just because you allowed one AT a new way of performing it.

You, and the devs like you, seem to be operating on this weird assumption that there are hundreds of would-be pimps sitting off in the wings, thinking "Man, if only I had some way to live out my mysogynist sexual fantasies in the form of Mastermind gameplay" You want me to believe that's the case? Fine, prove it. Until you can do that, though, that argument doesn't move me at all. You, and the devs, have imagined a boogeyman into existence in the form of an upsurge of MM pimps.

All of which is presently covered by the current moderating policies and is already being effected by the same people who would indulge in offensive behavior with mastermind pets.

They're -already- -doing- it, they're just not utilizing the clunky MM pet controls for it.

First off, You don't have to be logged on for the devs to look at your character information. Secondly, I'm -fairly- sure that there are internal logs that the mods can use as evidence of offensive behavior. If there -aren't-, I don't know why the hell not. And if there are, then those same tools will be available to moderate this fictional horde of offensive MM players.

No, what needs to be done is the devs of this game need to make up their damn mind as to whether sex is something to be shunned. They're terrified of the prospect, apparently, of having MM's running around "pimping" their pets. But then we get a female costume in the gunslinger set that is deliberately patterned after the prostitutes from old westerns. (don't get me wrong, those costume pieces are more versatile than people give them credit for, but even so.) The BP sorcerers are skinhead freaks with war paint and crazy face, and the new BP sorcer-esses- are hot scantily clad women with fashion model hair and loincloths. Mother Mayhem runs around in the thongiest thong I've ever thonged, and Sister Solaris's costume is -see through-. (Actually, Sister Psyche's outfit is partially sheer as well, which is why I find it rather absurd when people write comics where she gets huffy because -teenagers- are picturing her in her -underwear-, but I'm getting sidetracked)

Don't misunderstand my position, mind you. I'm not opposed to a bit of sex appeal here and there. (Far from it, though it irks me sometimes that its all aimed at straight males. I get why, though.) But if the devs want a tip on how to avoid having MMs objectifying their pets, Step one might be to not dress them with sexualized art assets. Give us female ninjas who wear the same getup the male ninjas do. I'd laugh in the face of the "pimp" who tries to sell his girl's services while they wear costumes approximately as revealing as your average burka. I wouldn't be satisfied with such limited customization, but at least it'd be something.

But even aside from -all- of this, the fact of the matter is that a society that lets people do what they want-and reap the social consequences themselves) tends to be a healthier society than one that imposes a value system on a populace that doesn't share it.

"Some people will abuse it" is not a valid excuse for not doing something that otherwise benefits a large portion of the mastermind player base.

It is also worth floating the fact that a large number of the people I've talked to talk about henchmen customization like it's a foregone conclusion. If they haven't heard the dev's position on it, they just -assume- it's coming. You know why? Because in -every other aspect of the game-, the devs prioritize player freedom and customization over prudery and sexual apprehension. Just food for thought.

Not to be a grammar nazi, but you don't use an apostrophe for pluralization. ;p

This is untrue, actually. I was -there- for this, and we didn't have more skin colors, what we had were -costume- colors that closely matched some of the normal skin tones, and those colors were taken out and replaced with some of the orangey browns we have now.

(Aaaand arise, thread! Arise from the darkness!)

I imagine it's not exclusively his call as to whether they spend time updating old pattern textures, and he doesn't want to make promises he can't keep.

For a given value of "Problem". I have a couple characters who have "energy" or "astral forms", of the like frequently seen in comics, and I've got a Peacebringer with a costume similar to Sunstorm or Moonfire, and I think it looks pretty cool.

But I am all for more texture options, and have other characters that would totally use an old school "tights" option. Especially I'd like to see one that is generic enough that as many of the existing color patterns as possible can be overlaid on top of it as possible. The issue with defense, as I mentioned in the other thread, is that it is somewhat restrictively associated with only a couple of color patterns in the creator. That's not -bad-, mind you, and I love that it fits with both it's own pattern (defense) and one of the older ones (stripe 3, i think?). And I love that Stealth does the same thing with....Stripe 3. ;p But neither of those patterns are generic enough to work in any real sense with any of the other patterns. (or many of them, anyway)

So I'd like to see, first and foremost, a tights option that gives a generic, subtle texturing to the whole body, without lending to a particular pattern. If it's going to have briefs seams, a-la some of the golden agey costumes that were in the other thread, those should match up with the briefs/bikini color patterns, maybe, (so that the seam lines up with the color division) but other than that, I'd like it to avoid associating itself with a particular costume pattern.

Aside from that, in the future, I'd be glad to have other patterns that happen to line up really well with existing costume color patterns, and, again, I really like me sum textured/detailed "with skins" options, particularly ones that give more personality to some of the existing "painted on" shapes.

The thing with the Defense set, which I love, by the way, is that it works exceptionally well with a couple of patterns, and doesn't line up at all with many of the others. Which you expect, Given you can't line up with all the innumerable patterns on one costume texture. But unless a guy wants all his characters to all have the same basic pattern on all their outfits, you have to stray away from the defense set, which makes alternatives attractive.

One of the things worth mentioning though, is that some basic spandex tights, with seams and some texture details here and there, could have any pattern applied to it while still looking attractive.

Personally, I would love to see more "with skin" options turned into "plus" versions, like excess, hearts, etc.

Okay.

Could you guys please resolve not to fracking spoil all of it with splash screens like you did with Miss Liberty? Or with announcement threads like you just did with this one?

Please?

Yeeeah. I do, and I was kinda seriously irritated when I saw the story in the launcher.