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I think its good pretty much only with fly though. I helped my mate test his devices blaster in arena and I could see thru cloaking device at couple dozen yards with no +perception whatsoever..

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Still, for a char without perspection buffs, a cloaked blaster is much harder to spot.

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It is strong compared to... what?

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EM works the same way as most Melee attacks.. a simple cycle power, run in, jump over.. BOOM. Power still fires off and you're nowhere near the target.. useful in alot of situations.

I myself, expect the GM to have a giggle over it.

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I think he was referring to Focus from claws primary which is a ranged attack Just shows how much some people know..

Regarding the case you mentioned, I once dueled Gatling's teambuild in test server Arena, and after the match he said : "I didnt know that Energy has a ranged stun." To which I replied: "It doesnt"

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If it was a 1vs1 arranged Duel, the way i see it should be all powers, no inspirations.

If you were just fighting someone, suck it up and take it like a man.

Ofcourse, when someone has around 20 Respites and 20 Catch a Breaths it does get frustrating v.v

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No. Any PvP fight should use inspirations. They balance it out. What's a blaster supposed to do against a controller otherwise?

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Get one attack through and then lose?

I was gonna post a witty comment but you were first.

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The above rules do not apply to your opponent, who in fact MUST do the opposite while whinging about even the slightest thing that may make things hard for them (planetary alignments,cats,cake,disease) and blaming the other party for them.

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Seems like today that 10% of the people who lose in casual PvP (1 v 1 mostly) say that a cat jumped on their keyboard.

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That's actually happened to me. Although I only mentioned it to my friends on TeamSpeak.

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One time my cat had chewed on my mouse cable without me noticing and then; while I was playing the mouse stopped working and i was :"Wheres this smell of smoke coming from?"

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stealth in cloaking device is pretty good, especially combined with fly as there are more dimensions to hide in.


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I think its good pretty much only with fly though. I helped my mate test his devices blaster in arena and I could see thru cloaking device at couple dozen yards with no +perception whatsoever.. I think my stalker can spot flying devices blasters quite easily in sirens with danger sense, at normal blasting range (not sniping range).

I like to echo plight in this, a sniper-specialist is not very good all-around character. Boost range from energy secondary is not available in sirens call, which is a shame. Another snipe from weapon mastery epic is available only in recluses victory..

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Impale
Throw Spines
Shurikens
Exploding Shurikens

If I ever cure myself of altitis and actually finish levelling my spines scrapper (sitting at 42 at the moment) that's the kind of ranged attack build he's going with.

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On comparison my PVP blaster has a grand total of 1 ranged attack (Im not counting nova (PBAoE) or power burst (miniscule range))

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Not sure as we only done it with heroes. There is a possibility that hide may still be useful but I know the enemies in the hero run were seeing threough superior invisibility with no problem.

Hopefully the dev's realise how much this would impair stalkers and have made it so they can't see through hide and I will try to test it before we do the run.

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Shouldnt be overly bad for stalkers if the enemies are taunted well enough.. But I agree getting all hidden attacks interrupted is not good.

Shouldnt this thread be on test server forum, because you can combine people from both servers for the run?

Maybe there should be a separate thread for grabbing teammates and advertising yourself. Im not gonna bother trying to get 5 ppl together, so if someone wants my blaster, Captain Skyfire, in their team send me a PM. Otherwise I guess im not fighting in this one.

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I think he meant Prestige is gained from players defeating other players - like the bonus you get per enemy player in RV during the 5 minute downtime before the zone resets.

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Even so this type of rewards are totally irrelevant to pvp and give more reason for people to yell "go away we farm badges/prestige" in pvp zones

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But you could only farm it by PvP-ing - to earn it, you'd have to fight other players - this is a good thing, isn't it?

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You have to beat the pillboxes first. Besides the rewards are laughably small compared to what you get from pillboxes AS A BASE. Not to mention the timewindow is small.

ps. I cant understand how difficult it is for GMs to be around in pvp zones during PEAK hours..

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Cloaking Device and Stealth do not stack, SS does however. But I don't believe this +stealth happens in PvP.

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Oh right. I thought they did. Well in that case.. Do it with just cloaking device. Personally I think its stealth is quite poor though, but at least you wont need anohter power pool.

Remove 2 slots from combat jumping and leave just 2 jump in it. It is one of the cheapest toggles ever devised so im at loss understanding what those end reduxes are doing there.

Instead 3 slot hurdle with jumps, this will help enormously in unsuppressed movement.

3 slot BU with recharge, the toHits are up to you, but Id put some in there. THere can never be too much toHit buff in pvp.

Fly and acid mortar work well together, yes-no?

Ahem.

Id rather advise to take teleport pool as a travel power, utilize group teleport for moving with your bots and FF generator/seeker drones, and you also get teleport foe to tp squishies into your poison trap+caltrops+mines.

I dont know enough of traps to give advice, but most stuff in there looks useful. From robots take naturally summons and upgrade/equip. Instead of repair, Id take aid other and aid self.

Well, these are just my ideas.

All blaster primaries except ice and sonic have a snipe attack in them, and they are more or less equivalent in this sense.

Snipe from the shadows type of blaster would propably like to have devices as a secondary because you get cloaking device. Also you get targeting drone for extra accuracy and perception. Add stealth from power pool and hover+fly for travel power, possibly tactics from leadership pool for more +perception and you get the standard 'stalker hunter'. What other attacks do you get is up to you.

Personally Id rather take energy as a secondary for boost range, unfortunately that power is not available in sirens call level range.

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Absymal damage output till after granite ie up to L32 he

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Erm, how can your damage output get better after Granite's -damage, -acc and -recharge?

Of War mace I say the same as I have done countless of times before.

Main attacks are Jawbreaker, pulverize, Shatter in that order of importance. Whirling mace is the only reasonable area attack. Crowd control mostly sucks, although it might actually be useful if mud pots immobilizes the enemies. Taunt is taunt, clobber is reliable singletarget stunner but I doubt you have much use for it outside PVP. Build-up...does very little. Bash you must take but dont bother slotting it.

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Irritatingly, it doesn't stop the "Hold 'em just as theyre sliding past a mob of orange-con NPCs and then train the group onto them" tactic.

Two bars of debt later...

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What can we learn from this? Don't slide past a mob of orange-con NPCs.

I agree with Bridger, too bad it ran for so long before stopped. I was actually bit annoyed of it.

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I would have to say too long. did you notice that the 3 team round robin nearly took as long as the first 3 rounds.

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Naturally, cause 3 team round robin equals 3 matches played in succession, ie. 3 rounds Trick is playing as many matches as possible at the same time.

My system would add just 2 rounds extra for that, and allow 20 participants (how many teams did we have last night btw?).

But I agree that a leaque would be nice - but unfortunately practise has shown that prolonged leaque in CoX does not work very well, especially if people are supposed to organise their matches on their own. Real life becomes an issue. It is easier for people to organise time for themselves for one evening rather than for 5 or more evenings..

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was indeed an awesome event, nice work ks, wud b better as a league to avoid the luck aspect of a knockout tournament altho i doubt u cud keep every1 interested for long enough to do a league, bring on the next tourny

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Well theres my idea of round robin qualification groups, but that would definitely mean lot more matches and I dont know how well it can be managed. 5-person round robin would mean 10 qualification matches to be played, Some of them could be played at same time though. 4 groups would allow 20 participants. After that there could be a top 8 (2 to proceed from each grp) in single-elimination.

Hmm the total amount of rounds, hmm.. 5-person RR qualification grp can play two matches at same time, out of total 10 matches that'd mean 5 rounds.. Not counting possible tie-breakers that'd be.. 8-9 rounds total? For 20 participants that doesnt sound too bad does it?

And everybody would get to play at least 4 matches.

I need to verify this arg.. EDIT: looks correct ok. 8 rounds total when we play as many of the matches at same time as possible. (I wonder did anyone get what I said )

Recap of my idea of rules:

20 players(or teams)
are divided into 4 groups of 5 players(or teams)
Within the group they play against everyone else, you get 1 point from each win. After the qualification groups are completed, two players (or teams) with most points from each group will proceed to top8, which will be played out in knock-out fashion (called single elimination - just like the squished tourney).

Because 2 matches from each group can be played out at the same time, this makes for a total of 5 rounds of qualification, and 3 rounds of top8. If in qualification more than two people will end up with most points, we can use the amount of personal deaths as a criteria who is better, or we can play tie-breaker matches. THe former possibility is favored because ties are quite likely to happen and at least 3 tie-breaker matches are needed.

Pros of this system: Every player(or team) gets to play at least 4 matches in qualification even if they lose all. In theory adding or reducing participants in the fly is easy. But: look below.

Cons: Increasing q.group size will increase amount of matches dramatically. 6 person group will need to play 5 matches more than a 5 person group. If we keep the limit of participants at 20 or less, I think we can get over this in two hours or so.

WHat do you think?

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Targetting is easy. If you want to speed up the raid, you need not worry about colour of your target. If you accidentally target Hamidon, if you use TAB. Dont worry. Any decent tank can easily hold Hamidons aggro. Just hurry up and change to next target.
Remember you are the one who makes the biggest difference to the speed of the raid. Dont worry about people dying, its not your job.
Oh, have an empath dedicated to you. The raid slows down if you die.

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Thanks, I was gonna ask questions about targetting eventually. Most importantly I wanted to know the order that different color Mitos need to go down. Thankfully I usually dont have had lag problems due to slightly ubah computer, so Im confident that I will do ok job. Also, if Mitos split, I guess its best to kill the split ones right then and there?

I have similar thoughts, the zones are nice per say, but there should be more rewards that reward the actual PVPing like in sirens. I was really hoping much from RV during the test server event, but reality is often harsh.

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I need to know how to respec my en/rad because theres a few attacks which i shouldnt have taken (well 1 main one i shouldnt have taken - i should have taken the debuff instead)

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From energy Id rather not take energy torrent or explosive blast, from rad the 3 last powers are questionable. Other than that its down to personal preference really.

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hehe the spines scrapper might not be able to kill you, but you wont be able to kill him either. and besides he can kill squshies a lot more efficently then you can.

With regen as secondaries i rate primaries
1 Spines
2 Broadsword
3 Martial arts
4 Katana
5 Dark melee
6 claws

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My own list would propably be

1. BS
2.-4. MA, spines, Katana
5. Claws
6. DM

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I just wanted to add that I'll be happy to help with leading the PA droppers if the raid leaders need it.

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Most certainly we will need someone experienced for that, if Archy is not around (has anyone seen him recently btw?)

This one was prolly the best PVP Ive witnessed for a long time, if not ever. Even observing matches was really interesting. Me and Magus advancing to the second round gave a little feeling of achievement, and getting my hide tanned afterwards in a duel by Blue freezer was also educating.

Now what if someone resurrects the test server pvp nights again? I didnt even hav e a lvl 50 pvp character when they used to happen..

Sad that Extremus and Xanthus had to miss this.