Grey Pilgrim

I personally love KB (I have a an En/En Blaster whose battlecry is "This calls for more knockback!"), but there are times where it's not all that great. I don't think it's very good for Wormhole... I have a Grav/Time as well, and while Wormhole is up far more often than Gravity Distortion Field, I'm far more likely to use the latter because it doesn't have all the issues that Wormhole does.

Not sure what to make of the "use it with Dimension Shift" idea of Hawk's, either. Other aoe mez powers that you can kind of equal Wormhole to don't call for using other powers with them. They hold their foe, or KB them, etc., in a far more simple manner. I think that's my main beef with it is that it behaves so differently from similar powers and is more difficult for it.

If nothing else, I wouldn't mind a lower cast time on it. I feel even worse about the KB and disappearing of foes if it's not going to throw off my teammates as easily. I know I could run ahead of my team more, but I'm often buffing between mobs and have a hard time making sure I'm so far ahead that I can use Wormhole and find a good place to toss mobs.

And yet, EM still can do okay. I would certainly argue that it could use some buffs, but it's not nearly so bad as some would make out, especially since they are still so upset about EM being nerfed way back when.

ST damage is pretty nice... I think some forget that when they rave about AOE cutting through swaths of minions. There are plenty of bosses and EMs out there that are nice to take care of quickly, too.

You've been replied to, amply. Sales are going to happen, we all know that. We don't know what they are, so like with any other purchase, you make the best decision you can at the time. Like with any sale, you don't know if it's the last time it's going to be that price, or if it will be lower at some point.

They may not have gotten enough bites on the 25% price, so they decided to go lower. Or they wanted to make players in need of slots happy and go for more. Who knows.

I for one am grateful that the sale happened again, as I missed it by accident the first time around. And I'm sure plenty of players are happily buying extra slots at 50% off. Buyer beware and enjoy your stuff that you got... sometimes you get it sooner, sometimes you get it cheaper, sometimes you pay extra. It's the nature of any business. Just live with it: it's the nature of the thing.

Think we're at least taking next week as a by... sounded like a fair amount of us are going to be gone.

Simply put, the buff was designed to put Light Form more in line with Eclipse. That's all. The two are roughly equivalent now and there's no reason to swap it back... any adjustments needed are in other powers or setup for the AT.

I used the quote tool so you would know what I was responding to. Here it is again.

There is something wrong with Pulsar, blatantly so (and you have argued that... which is what I was calling you on). Warshades have superior mez (and not just their equivalent to Pulsar) and can do as well or better in the damage department.

We've also argued that the KB IS an issue, and it's not overpowering. The human powers and Solar Flare in particular are what we have focused on. So that's all I was reminding you of.

I have no clue what Arbiter Hawk is planning or thinking. He seems like to like playing things close to the vest and not post much until something is "done" or in test, unfortunately. I can understand why, given how some players respond, but it is something I have liked devs doing in the past.

I don't think I21.5 was a target for anything, though. These ".5" issues seem to be more about trials, etc., than big power tweaks. I certainly was not expecting our new formshift animation before I22, given what he said about it this summer. Trust me, if I22 hits and I don't see anything for Kheldians, there is going to be a post on the subject in the beta and main forums.

The amount of recharge needed is still pretty high to do that. Of course it makes sense to go for other bonuses once more recharge isn't doing you any good... but the recharge bar is pretty high to get those perma, even if you're using some purples. I think they're ALMOST perma on my all human build, and that has Hasten, 50-60% global recharge, and the Spiritual alpha rounding things out.

Depending on what you are used to building and affording, that might not seem like much, but it is something more than I build for my Peacebringer's tri-form before. I kind of got to 40% global on that without focusing on it too hard, and that was fine by me, since getting more at the time would just have put Dull Pain or whatever closer to perma.

Inner Light and the new Light Form would beg to differ with you. Making those perma or darn close to it is worth it, which does mean a decent amount of recharge. I know Spiritual helped out my PB with that considerably.

Now don't paint yourself in a corner, because I know you have said and argued different in the past. I also think this is flat out wrong, as there are human powers that are very much not working well.

Sorry. Just had to jump in on that.

Since people are discussing them... I'm not sure why VEATs do not mesh with me so much. When I play them, I just think about how much more I could be doing with another AT type. They step on every other AT's toes too much, probably, but I still feel like I'd be better off just grabbing a Stalker, Scrapper, Blaster, etc. I have the same issues with Defenders and Corruptors usually, though. I tend to be an "all in there, I don't really care how much I'm debuffing, I want to be smashing or tanking" kind of player.

Kheldians are much more in the enemy's face, to my mind, and I like that.

I was just thinking I was glad I didn't grab two slots when they were 25% off, and then sorry for the people who had bought those.

It's the old buyer beware thing, though. You never know when sales are going to happen, or when you are going to buy an iPod and have a newer version come out before it even finishes shipping to you (this happened to my wife). Knowing you have had the character slots for a little longer is not much help, like it hopefully is for those that pre-purchased GR for Dual Pistols.

So... I feel your pain. But it's kind of inevitable with things being sold and put on sale. I could have gotten another $20 off of the Nook I bought for my wife's Christmas present if I had waited a week, but it was already cheaper than it had ever been when I bought it. It is what it is.

If a player can't pay attention and do what I suggested, you don't want them tanking Maelstrom or anywhere near all those protestors. They probably are using AOEs all over the place.

I'm assuming if a player is reading the forums about Master of TPN (and on a server forum), they have the brainpower to watch a timer, move, and not use AOEs stupidly.

I still wish the Obliteration beam had a stronger visual indicator. Its audio works well (depending on your sound system... I know I could tell when it was off to my left or right), but it's too thin. Other powers obscure it (hello Rebirth, a quite likely Destiny for people to be sporting on that Trial), and people flying should not make it harder to see. Not sure why they haven't tried to change it up more: it's a common complaint.

One curious question, something I noticed on last night's run. Why do you have people clear terminals on the top and middle only, rather than the bottom? Is there some merit there over the bottom rung, or is it just a personal preference thing?

Good points. I would say everyone can help drop telepaths quickly, though. There is a timer for Maelstrom's return, and he even seems to phase in rather slowly, so as long as you are on the spot when the timer reaches zero, it's easy to start fighting him right away without missing a beat in that regard. I think his slow phase in is the usual "you can't attack a newly spawned mob" script, so you can hit him with PbAOEs, which is worth noting for tanks. You obviously want to make sure no protestors are about, but I rarely saw them around Mael in my one run.

They're nice to get, but not so nice it's the only way to build for. I picked up the ranged attacks on my offensive fire build, but they wouldn't be much help on my defensive one. I'd rather Maneuvers and my hold, for instance. And I've run plenty of Apex TF's with Grey Pilgrim, so it's not like you need to stay at range all the time.

My interest in mystery stories thrillers leads me to believe this is probably a red herring or a way to throw us off the scent. And it's the comics, too, so is he "dead" or "dead dead?" I'm guessing the former. No matter what, I'm doubting this is quite the spoiler some are thinking it is.

It also potentially leaves things open for our particular character to take his place, which is interesting. Not sure how his TF is going to work with him gone, either. We'll see how it goes.