FourSpeed

Hope you brought Kleenex...

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PS> Funny post, OP - kudos.

Hmmm... I thought by his post he'd surpassed the 5 rule and Mid's was
(correctly) not showing him extra bonuses, and he was thinking that 5
identical sets was the problem and throwing a different set in was then ok.

That said, the ctrl-b trick for having Mid's actually show you which sets
are problematic, is a wrinkle I didn't know -- I'm embarrassed to say how
I used to tell (in Mid's) if I was going over the 5 Rule.


Learn something new everyday - Thanks!


Cheers,
4


PS> It's funny how life works sometime - just Tuesday, my friend and I were
planning out new builds in Mid's and we wondered if there was a way to
find out the exact information that ctrl-b gives... Nice.

Bonus points for also specifying what this recipe would sell for if vendored...

Teasing aside, EndMod recipes have been the one common IO recipe that fairly
consistently sells on market for higher than crafting table price for certain levels.

None of the others do that (consistently), but I had a toon that sold them
on the market from the crafting table for ~35-65% profits -- for months (in I-11).

I scratched my head that it ever worked back then, and it tickles me that
it still (evidently) works today...

It certainly defies logical explanation, and has done so for years...


Regards,
4

Well, it's honestly no more of a stretch than knowing there are formulas for
everything else in the game like: Def, Acc/ToHit, XP, leveling etc.

I don't expect to see those displayed prominently either, but I assure you
that folks who find the results of those formulas important have a pretty
good idea on where to find them and how to use them...

I don't see the market any differently, especially when all of the market
numbers are a flat price or one simple division or multiplication (orders of
magnitude simpler than the other formulas I alluded to).

I'll give a mulligan to anyone who hasn't passed Grade 3 or 4 math yet,
but for the rest, well, I can think of dozens of things I'd rather see the
devs put quality time towards than this...

So, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.


Regards,
4

Maybe because you'd like to be knowledgeable about this game?

Maybe you'd prefer to not have a crappy AHUI further cluttered with
information that is very easy to determine already?

My thought is if you'd like them to add a *useful* idea, why not have
an actual vendor at each WW or BM?

"That Guy Who Knows Something" could be a vendor, and his schtick
could be "Hey, you can buy/sell items with me, or you could check out
those shady characters by that truck over there"...

Heck, it's already true with many Merit Vendors near the markets.


In any case, what I've listed are the vendor prices....

If you'd just prefer to complain (since it's posted here, rather than in the Suggestion Forum) -
my appologies for attempting to provide helpful information.... I'll move along now...

Carry On.


Regards,
4

Zylo is one of my favorite players. In fact, his Brute build is what got me wanting
to make one just like it -- It's just too funny not to...

He's an awful PvP'er - I suspect (and hope) that is deliberate...

I think his "fun" comes from building a nearly indestructible toon, standing in the
middle of the zone, and laughing hysterically to himself as the uninformed bust their
teeth on that Brute of his.

Many times he doesn't even bother to fight back or retaliate...

I laugh just watching it, sometimes... He has a Tank that he plays similarily.


But, two things you should know.

1> Even with that Brute, he doesn't leap into hero huddles, and he'd die pretty
quickly if he did.

2> The regulars (ie. the guys that are there every night and can handle their
toons well) leave him alone... Why?

Because, the only thing that makes him hard to kill is high HP and regen, and
skilled players can overcome those fairly easily. After that, there's not a lot of
challenge there.

I've rarely seen him kill anybody, and never seen him kill a regular. I've seen Blasters
(and others) take him down periodically, and I'm pretty sure most of the regulars
have killed him enough times to satisfy any curiosity about whether they can or not...

That said, I admire his approach to PvP - He clearly has fun with it in his own
particular way, in spite of the fact it isn't especially *effective* in terms of actual
pvp kills or kill ratio.

It is a lot of fun to watch. He's like a Rock Statue stuck in the middle of the zone.
Most folks just steer around him and keep on going...

That they do bypass him (mostly) is, I think, the part that's the "win" for him
(ie. "Here I am standing all by myself in a busy PvP zone, and most folks won't
even bother messing with me").

The simple fact that the newbies can't mess with him, and the regulars don't
need to, is largely irrelevant to his fun. That's the part I respect.


Regards,
4

Fair enough.

I must be "Old School" I bid creep on pretty much everything...

To be sure, the number of bids and the speed at which they increase depends
a lot on the particular item, but I still do it... Even on salvage...

First, I *love* the idea of getting something cheaper than the last 5 - that's
a "W" in my book. It's all about getting the bargain

Second, over time the amount I've saved has gotten me more shinies in
the long term.

Third, you know the old saw: "Rich people didn't get to be rich people by needlessly
giving their money away"

And, Finally, the one that might make dave_p yell at me is that it's all leisure
time - if it takes 5 mins, or 25 mins, it's all good to me... Efficiency only matters
if Urgency requires minimizing the time costs. For me, nothing in the game is "Urgent".


Cheers,
4

HEY!!!

Stop with logical tenets of proper customer service - there's no place for that sort
of crazy talk in the NCsoft business model!


Cheers,
4


PS> Welcome back Athyna!

PPS> I took an 18 month break from the game due to a different (but equally silly)
dispute with "customer service" - so I can relate. They have "issues".

There are two restrictions (the 30 day bruhaha notwithstanding).

1> You have to be the same faction... So, I have two awaken inspies in e:mail;
1 Hero, 1 Villain.

2> You need to have an open inspiration slot in your tray to claim the e:mail.


Regards,
4