One time I seen 4 Masterminds, 2 doms, 1 corr and a stalker on a team and with all pets out they did a team teleport right into a hero huddle. They destroyed everyone, but the second time they tried it failed.
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Good call.... I forgot the power of the Wormhole.
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Originally Posted by ConFlict
grav dom, that is all.
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Is this a joke? You honestly want to be able to jump into a group of people and kill more than one before dying yourself? Sorry, you're playing the wrong game. That is not possible in CoH. The game is specifically designed to be almost impossible even with 2 to 1 odds, if the 2 have half a brain. Expecting to solo a team is silly.
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Originally Posted by Spike_Tyson
Looking for something that can jump right in that "Hero Huddle" and not get floored before getting a few kills
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And with that attack chain you will kill no one all the while the heroes are hitting you for more than your 150hp/sec can regen. Aim+B/U > defense. And seriously these people aren't the AI and will attack you when you jump in the middle of all of them not run away or cower in fear because you are there. And you can only placate one of them......
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Originally Posted by Spike_Tyson
You'd be able to hit Dull pain + IH, then your attack chain BU+Divine+Placate+Divine that should give you over +45% defense ?
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I'm doubtful you'd be able to get away with it - even on a Brute...
That said, one thing I personally have a lot of fun with in those scenarios is
dropping a Shivan right in the middle of the pack... Makes me chuckle every time 
Amusingly (and more times than you'd think), my stalker often gets a "distraction"
kill as a bonus out of the deal, if a hero gets sloppy...
Even without a kill - it's still immensely entertaining now and then...
Cheers,
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Originally Posted by Psyrene
And with that attack chain you will kill no one all the while the heroes are hitting you for more than your 150hp/sec can regen. Aim+B/U > defense. And seriously these people aren't the AI and will attack you when you jump in the middle of all of them not run away or cower in fear because you are there. And you can only placate one of them......
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Ain't killing no one?
BU........dmg.....sec
Divine = 222.....2sec
placate...........2sec
divine = 222.....2sec
Golden Dragon = 340...2sec
divine = 222
over 1000 dmg in 10 secs, and adds a 74% to defense at the same time
Too bad everybody in the zone has more than 1000 HP. All you'll do is hurt someone, they'll heal, and you'll be dead.
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Originally Posted by Spike_Tyson
over 1000 dmg in 10 secs, and adds a 74% to defense at the same time
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1000 in seconds is not as good as you think. Take resistances into account, which anyone with low hp as least has some. Then figure in that 10 seconds is a fricking eternity to anyone who has two brain cells that work and yea you should be getting the picture.
Edit: forgot. lolmelee defense with no elusivity.
Duel me.
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Yeah In RV not Sirens.|
Originally Posted by Supermax
Too bad everybody in the zone has more than 1000 HP. All you'll do is hurt someone, they'll heal, and you'll be dead.
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Forgot the first attack is a crit. so that'll be +1500 dam in less than 10 secs.
AND if your talking RV then we can add MOG
120% defense
75% resist
for 15 secs, i'm sure you can kil a few in that time, and when the 15 sec are over, you still have +70% defense
Not getting killed on a regin stalker is not much of a challenge. Getting a kill with a bs/ spamming divine avalanche now that challenge is huge.
Pretty much the only way your plan will work is, if its all melee so the +def from da matters. These meleers are not super strength. You are attacking the lone squishy inside said pack of meleers. This lone squishy is afk. And none of the meleers have taunt. If you get all of that to happen your plan is solid gold, otherwise its pretty craptastic.
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I've never played a stalker but doesn't ninjitsu have some sort of AoE placate you could use?
Con summed it up pretty well. I've played a regen stalker for like 4-5 years. Your plan is simply not realistic.
Well anyway, there is a ss/wp brute named zylo that i seen take on 4 heros at once and win. so there gotta be some builds that can ward off multiple attackers, cause i have seen a few AT's with heros all over them like they was a AV or GM and barley putting a scratch on them.
lol, zylo. Yes, if you invest like 15 billion into your build, you can survive 4 really bad SO'd players attacking you. That's not a good measuring stick though. I've seen zylo play. He's pretty horrible. He just stands in one spot, spamming attacks. All it takes is one good player on a good build, and he's helpless.
In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is a cliche.
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Originally Posted by Spike_Tyson
Well anyway, there is a ss/wp brute named zylo that i seen take on 4 heros at once and win. so there gotta be some builds that can ward off multiple attackers, cause i have seen a few AT's with heros all over them like they was a AV or GM and barley putting a scratch on them.
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to make one just like it -- It's just too funny not to...
He's an awful PvP'er - I suspect (and hope) that is deliberate...
I think his "fun" comes from building a nearly indestructible toon, standing in the
middle of the zone, and laughing hysterically to himself as the uninformed bust their
teeth on that Brute of his.
Many times he doesn't even bother to fight back or retaliate...
I laugh just watching it, sometimes... He has a Tank that he plays similarily.
But, two things you should know.
1> Even with that Brute, he doesn't leap into hero huddles, and he'd die pretty
quickly if he did.
2> The regulars (ie. the guys that are there every night and can handle their
toons well) leave him alone... Why?
Because, the only thing that makes him hard to kill is high HP and regen, and
skilled players can overcome those fairly easily. After that, there's not a lot of
challenge there.
I've rarely seen him kill anybody, and never seen him kill a regular. I've seen Blasters
(and others) take him down periodically, and I'm pretty sure most of the regulars
have killed him enough times to satisfy any curiosity about whether they can or not...
That said, I admire his approach to PvP - He clearly has fun with it in his own
particular way, in spite of the fact it isn't especially *effective* in terms of actual
pvp kills or kill ratio.
It is a lot of fun to watch. He's like a Rock Statue stuck in the middle of the zone.
Most folks just steer around him and keep on going...
That they do bypass him (mostly) is, I think, the part that's the "win" for him
(ie. "Here I am standing all by myself in a busy PvP zone, and most folks won't
even bother messing with me").
The simple fact that the newbies can't mess with him, and the regulars don't
need to, is largely irrelevant to his fun. That's the part I respect.
Regards,
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That's actually a pretty good summary. One clarification though, regarding this...
"Most folks just steer around him and keep on going... "
Most folks actually do that with ANY melee toon, unless they severely outnumber him. A well-built tank or brute or regin scrapper is basically unkillable 1v1, unless he's really bad. Yes, there's a small chance you might kill him, but in that time, you could probably kill 3 other people. It's simply not worth the effort. For example, If I'm on my stalker, I AS someone, and it takes off only like 20% of his health, you're damn right I'm gonna just ignore him.....unless I get a chance to attack him with others 
Point is, zylo's just another melee toon with a huge investment. Like you said, it's all +HP and regen.
The only way you will break up a hero snuggle and cuddle is through teamwork and nothing else, being the lone ranger won’t break one up, as you will only end up dead very quickly and you will have died for nothing.
Zylo is fun, I have seen his build and it is expensive. When I asked him why he didn't have a travel power, he said 'I don't need a travel power in here' and laughed. I think both his brutes and tanks are kind of 'tongue in cheek' alts and he knows it.
There is another tank in Sirens called 'G-Ternal' and he is totally different from Zylo. He is a dm/wp tank with loads HP, regen and defence and it can be funny watching 4-5 stalkers taking forever to kill him.
Looking for something that can jump right in that "Hero Huddle" and not get floored before getting a few kills or soon as i enter the huddle. Pop in with a big hit then scrap it out till target is dead. I Mostly PVP in Sirens and there's a big huddle of hero's.
I have a shield Brute that has great defense. hero's miss a lot, but no heals to recover the HP. so running away is my only option. which I DON'T WANT.
I'm thinking maybe a NB/Regen Stalker, You'd be able to hit Dull pain + IH, then your attack chain BU+Divine+Placate+Divine that should give you over +45% defense while the regen is working at 1576% that's 150 hp per sec. Hero's prolly wont run when in a huddle. especially if its a scrapper or tank.
Whats your thought and Build ideas for a Hero Huddle Busting AT?