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CO doesn't have a global bank. So that makes two superhero MMO's that don't have this feature.

I'm going to address your comments out of order.

First. What I have done in this thread is explain what the devs have told us, and given examples of some of the things they have done in game to back up what they have told us.

This is where you are having problems comprehending things. You see discussing what the devs have said and done is not the same thing as voicing an opinion.

At no point in this thread have I voiced my opinion on global banks. Perfect_Pains question did not require my opinion. She asked for an explanation as to why the feature hasn't been added yet.

Second. I did not question your ability to read. I questioned your ability to comrehend what you are reading. Those are two distinctly seperate issues.

Lastly, is this really the best you can do? Trying to stir up drama by implying that I'm angry with you and somehow insulte?

Why don't you try sending me some anonymous negative rep. That might help you feel better.

PvP is one of the main motives behind creating dual builds. Players can have a regular build and then a second build crafted specially for PvP combat.

Most players in this game refuse to enter PvP zones, hence most players have no use for dual builds.

Players are not "intended" to IO out every character they have. The game is balanced around SO's. IO's are an option available for players that want a character to have that extra oomph.

For the same reason there are Vanguard Merits, Merits, and AE Tickets in the game. They give players another goal to play for. They can choose to ignore them because none are required to play the game.

Free will. Personal likes and dislikes. Common sense. Take your pick.

Yes there is a cap. If you don't already know and have to be told that's pretty pathetic.

We don't need to provide you with patch notes for basic math skills you should have learned in grade school.

Log onto the game and go to any one of the 11 servers character creation screen.

There you will find that each server can have up to 36 characters on it per account.

36 characters times eleven servers equals 396 potential character slots.

So the answer to your question:

"Is there a "cap" to the amount of toons you can IO out?"

is 396 "toons".

That doesn't make sense. If someone doesn't care about teaming why would they care how many people are on the server? It's more likely a soloist will choose a low pop server because he's less likely to get pestered with random team invites.

Standard Code Rant applies.


Edit: Someone's channeling the spirit of KittyKrusader again.

Sorry for misunderstanding Imoba.

I'm curious to see how they are going to handle the economy when GR goes live. While we will see heroes becoming villains, will it be enough to compensate for the number of villains that head heroside. A lot of players on have villains because they like the AT's, they aren't really fond of the redside content.

Of course that assumes the devs don't have any changes in plan for the economy.

Actually if you think about it RP can easily explain why heros and villains would never share infamy/influence.


Batman walks into a store and says, "I'm a friend of Superman's. You should give me stuff because he's famous."


Supervillains are even bigger egomaniacs than heroes. They are feared for their own criminal actions, not because they are the second cousin of the woman that married the nephew of Lord Recluse's half brother.

All characters are self sufficient. It's a simple fact. The devs have bent over backwards to give us the tools to make them financially independant from each other. It's not the devs fault or responsibility that any random player chooses not to use those tools.

A global bank is at best a minor qol convenience which has never had a high priority with the devs. Would it be nice if they changed their minds? You bet it would. It's one of thousands of ideas we'd like to see added.

As I said in that other thread Adam . . .

Reading comprehension, Try it sometime.

Explaining what the devs have told us about why we don't have a global bank does not mean we think the suggestion is bad. It also doesn't mean that the devs may not change their minds at some point and decide to put this feature in the game.

If you had actually read and comprehended any of my posts in either thread you would have seen that I clearly said it's possible the devs may change their minds at a future date.

The only person whining in either thread is you.

Reading comprehension Adam. You should try it sometime.

Explaining what the devs have told us about why we don't have a global bank does not mean we think the suggestion is bad. It also doesn't mean that the devs may not change their minds at some point and decide to put this feature in the game.

As I said before the only thing I know the devs said we'd never see is the ability to respec out of our powersets. (they also said we were lucky they let us pull 10 enh during a respec)

I'm not the one you have to convince, the devs are and they routinely ignore these global bank threads.

Not in this game.

No it isn't.

The Vault is a storage bin for a single character with mutiple access points. No other character can access it regardless of who the account holder is.


No they aren't.

Base storage facilities are exactly that, storage for SG bases. They are in no way a global bank. You give up all claim to anything you put in base storage. It becomes community property of whomever the Super Leader allows permission to access the bins. At any time the SL can choose to restrict access.

A global bank is when you and ONLY you have access to the items kept there regardless of what character and/or server you are on.


The devs never said that Power Customization would never exist. What they actually said was that it would be a huge task and it would take a lot of time to implement so don't expect it any time soon. They said that for 5 years. Guess what . . . 5 years is a long time. They had to get out from under Cryptic and then hire 50+ employees.

You can ignore the facts all you want but they won't go away.

1. This game didn't have a global bank when it started.
2. 5 years later and this game still doesn't have a global bank.

At the very least they feel a global bank is a minor QoL that hasn't been important enough to work on.

Right back at you. Provide us with any post, interview, where a dev or redname says they want to put a global bank in the game.

If anything the devs have done things to make swapping things between your own characters harder.

1. You must use a third party to conduct a simple trade.

2. Your characters must be in the same SG in order to use the SG storage bins. HOWEVER . . . You can't invite your own characters into an SG. You need a third party to do the invites.

3. You have the option of creating a second account to avoid trading with a stranger, but that means you have to buy the game again and maintain the sub fee.

4. You can't use trial accounts to trade because the devs reduced the amount of inf they can carry to 50,000 inf.

5. Trial accounts can't join SG's and therefore have no access to SG storage.

6. The devs fixed the bug that allowed players with characters in coalitioned SG's to put items into each others storage bins.

7. You can use the market to make influence trades but you have to pay the market fee. Also if you are careless you can lose the entire transaction.

8. So far (This may change once Going Rogue come out) we have been unable to trade cross faction even tho Infamy and influence are the same thing. The same goes for the salvage and recipes.

9. Merits and Tickets can be used to get salvage, enhancements, recipes, etc., however the merits and tickets themselves cannot be traded between characters.

10. Instead of making it easier to trade stuff between characters on the same account, the devs have made it ridiculously easy to make wealth on any character.

Any character regardless of AT or powersets can be rich with only the slightest effort.

Personally I find this idea would work better than the small clinic idea.

So you want some evidence that the devs intended the characters to be distinct and seperate from each other. Ok.

1. You can't log onto more than one character at a time on your account.

2. The game is 5 years old and there is no global bank. They've had plenty of time to design and implement one if they had wanted to.


But you go ahead and believe whatever you want.

You do realize that Striga is not a part of Paragon City. It's not even in the United States. (Paragon City is in Rhode Island.) The entire place is a criminal haven outside the jurisdiction of Paragon City. It would be more in theme for defeated heroes to awaken in a prison cell and have to break out, than find themselves in a Striga Hospital.

The devs never said that.

What the devs actually said was that they would love to do power customization but that it involved so much work it would take a long time to do it right.


Guess what? It's taken the 5 years to do it, and in the process they had to buy the game from NCSoft, and hire 50+ people to get it done.



The only thing I recall the devs saying wouldn't be put in the game was full AT respecs.

The part that you seem determined to ignore is that whatever backstory you choose to write is not relevant. The DEVS have said in the past that your characters have never met, your characters are strangers. Their game, their rules. Their decision is the only one that matters.

Now with Going Rogue coming out there is the possibility that we might see some progress towards a global bank.

Yes they are. Supply comes from the players. You have no right to dictate how they play the game.

Typical response of someone about to make excuses for things that are their own fault.

AE has had no effect on drop rates of regular content. The amount of people doing regular content may have changed but the drop rates themselves haven't.

There is no excuse for your not being able to make inf hand over fist. You only have yourelf to blame.

I rarely step into the AE and I've found that the scarcity of items at the market is getting me more inf for the stuff I'm selling. Everyone not using the AE is paying me top dollar for my drops.

Starting to catch on.

The number of alts you have has no bearing on your inability to grasp how easy it is to make inf.

I'm guessing a team can gank an opponent faster, and the faster you can gank opponents the sooner and more often there's a chance for a drop.

But that's just a guess.

Also if you do decide to choose one of the highest pop servers and you choose to limit yourself to playing on only that server, you won't get any sympathy from anyone when that server is down and you can't log on.

Servers go down. It's common sense to have a few back ups ready to go on other servers so you can still enjoy the game.

I have a feeling that Mousedroid's example is what probably happened.

Another possibility is that the OP's "friend" said something offensive about being gay and he was put in his place. One of the nice things about our community is that we support each other when we see certain types of behaviour.

Positron has told us flat out that the problem with merging the markets is that the discrepency between available funds is too vast at this time.

Blueside has a much larger percentage of the playerbase, and has had two years headstart on accumulating influence before CoV was introduced. Redside hasn't been able to catch up.

If we are lucky we may find that the new expansion "Going Rogue" will lay the groundwork for an eventual market merge as heros migrate redside. If we are unlucky, more villain players will migrate heroside than vice versa and the current redside population will decrease and push a market merger even further away.

The fact that he is playing an MMORPG is apparently lost on him. He must think this is a first person shooter game. What a dingleberry.





Edit: fixed typo