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Originally Posted by je_saist

The price has already been set. Pay for a subscription and get the reward when the subscribed time has been achieved. That is the reasonable price.

If you canceled your account, left, or whatever, TOUGH. GET OVER IT.

Sometimes NO means just that. NO.

Originally Posted by UberGuy

You're doing it wrong.

I've seen threads a long time ago where you talked about how you formed teams. You were very picky, not accepting this AT or that powerset, because they weren't "good enough". If that's not changed, that's probably a big part of your problem. Not only does it obviously limit your choices, but plenty of people won't bother teaming again with someone who plays like that.

Originally Posted by Thirty_Seven

Though I too think Luminara's post was priceless...

Would it be okay to have a pool of Vet rewards to pick from at each step? Say a Power Tier that includes all of the Vet Powers, a Costume Tier that includes all of the costume bits, etc.

Then, whenever a costume or power is offered as a Vet Reward, one can CHOOSE which of the powers or costumes or whatever they want. That way, they would have the same number of rewards that they qualify for, and the same range of rewards (they wouldn't have all of the good Vet Rewards by 15 months...) but would still not have to wait as long if the only thing they really want is say, the Boxing Outfit.

Originally Posted by Luminara

Translation matrix engaged.

"Dear NCSoft and development team,

Despite my failure to keep my subscription active in order to qualify for veteran rewards, and thereby depriving you of between $30 and $45 for each three month period, I believe you should sell me those same rewards for $3, a discount of 90% or more, and allow me to access them immediately. The fact that everyone else has had to pay that $30-45 and wait for up to five and a half years for their veteran rewards should not, in any way, sway your decision.

In short, gimme stuff, and thanks for being stupid, gullible and terrible at math and finances. Suckers.

Love,
BB"

Translation matrix disengaged.

No.

Originally Posted by Daimyo_Shi

I strangely favour the idea of have access to the Euro servers for NA players and NA to the Euro, mostly because I want to play on the German server and not know what the hell is going on.

Originally Posted by Impish Kat

lol.. I can't disagree with the first part of your statement...

But as to the second part... the events should be secondary to the regular content. Consider that the events themselves ARE currently timed so as not to interfere with regular content. How much sense does it make then, to have them popping up back to back thereby interfering with regular content?

We are not talking about tweaking the events themselves (at least I'm not), but rather implementing a kind of timed "zone flag" so that they don't occur back to back in the same zone. Imagine what would happen if they were to decide to add yet a third event into the mix next year.

Originally Posted by Mr. NoPants

We pencil you in when you turn around anyways.

Originally Posted by Mr. NoPants

Did he mean cats and people who give the impressions of cat like tendencies or just cats?

Originally Posted by Stormfront_NA

Hi:

I believe events should not detract from the main game, as it is doing now. What I see some of the posters above advocating, is essentially wrong from the perspective that particular TFs, threads and what not should not be done because of the events.

I believe the main game should have preference over the events, and not otherwise. Folks doing story threads are fundamental to this game, and TFs are a close second. Neither should be sacrificed in any form or manner just to satisfy a holiday event.

Frankly with a little effort on the developers side, all activities can be achieved with out repercussions on the other.

Some of us in this thread are trying to be constructive and offer means on achieving a balance that benefits all.

Stormy

Originally Posted by Impish Kat

You're not taking Oro mishes into account, either.

Having finished all the Holiday events on as many toons as I wanted, I teamed up with a friend to get a badge through the Oro. There was a "hunt 35 family in IP" mish that came up as part of the arc. Wouldn't ya know it, but both a Banner Event and a Zombie Event popped up back to back. Since the mish specified IP, we didn't have the option to move to another zone for the hunt and were stuck twiddling our thumbs for 40 minutes until the events cleared.

I don't think 'Just wait to do regular content for two weeks until the holiday events are over' is the right answer.

Originally Posted by Westley

This thread reminds me of this.

Originally Posted by ricktu

However as has been mentioned it is not just TF's that are affected. Last Time I was playing as part of a team we twice had contact given hunt missions being put on hold due to an event. Not an earth shattering problem obviously but a bit of a pain.

Originally Posted by Zekiran_Immortal

This.

The task force will be there.

The event won't.

Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill

But the 5th column and Council are *not* each other, any more than the Devouring Earth and Freakshow are. So, no, the 5th shouldn't count against Council hunts.

Now, limiting how many mixed spawns there are (which cause those fights?) Sure, if possible. My last "Defeat X council" hunt in Founders wasn't made all that much harder by having the 5th column around, but it was lengthened a little.

Originally Posted by Prof_Backfire

Pocket D. Learn it, love it.

Originally Posted by ReclusesPhantom

Just checked my User CP today to find someone managed to give me Neutral Rep. Until this points I've been only getting green jellybeans and the odd red one for one ridiculous reason or another, but a grey one?
When was this possible?! O.o

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

Because I don't want to quote a big post that won't quote right anyway, let me address this to ZNRGY_XERONUS:

I can respect the sentiment in your last post and I can respect what it takes to say it. I have no further qualms with your position or expression, and I hope you can keep this positive attitude further on in the thread, because I honestly do agree with you on one major point - I would like to see an underwater zone done right, because I would LOVE to see how our powers would change in water. It would be cool to see that, at least, but I just don't expect it to be something they'd work on. Again, I've seen underwater environments done WRONG, and I'd rather have them not present at all than presented like that.

There's one thing I've found to be true about creating works of art and works of fiction - cursing at limitations and stomping your feet until they go away only serves to deteriorate your work. Trust me, I've tried it, and all it did was lose me time and brain cells, and even when the limitation was lifted, the result wasn't always as spectacular as I thought. On the other hand, just reworking around limitations can sometimes produce actually superior results. In essence, I think we're likely to see an underwater zone at some point, only it won't be an IN water zone, and we'll see various cheeky ways to keep us out of the water. And if Bioshock managed to have a game take place inside an underwater city without once putting you IN the water (outside the plane crash at the beginning), then it's not quite impossible.

Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill

Raising the same question over and over again does not necessarily "motivate the vendor" to do anything. Should I keep complaining to my bank and the ATM manufacturer that I can't play classic Battlezone on their ATM? It's likely possible - simple screen, it's got a computer built in, buttons that can take left and right (and fire) input, so why shouldn't they do it if I keep nagging them? The program itself is ancient, and probably wouldn't take more than a few kb of space.

So I should keep nagging them about this, right? Keeping the vendor motivated and all that?

Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler

Actually, I said it would take the gibbering idiot they replace me with years to do and ultimately look stupid...because gibbering idiots aren't known for the quality of their work as much as their ability to gibber.

Whether or not we ever do an underwater zone or underwater gameplay is not my call to make...I'm simply stating the fact that it's very low on my list of things that I would want to see us do for this game and would be pretty forthright about expressing my opinion as such.

The dig at Aquaman was a joke and sincerely apologize to him and his lovely family; Aquawoman, Aqualad, and the rest of the Aquaclan...you are all special in your own unique and clammy ways.

Originally Posted by ZNRGY_XERONUS

Admittedly, I misspoke about the "silly" reference and for that I'm sorry and I apologize to BABs for that! I do read the forum a lot but I can't read every post. It is the Devs job to know what they can or can't be done and I understand only a fraction of what can be done in a game like this. There's never really, at least in my opinion, a clear message about what can be done in this game until it actually goes live. I never thought we would have power customization and I posted quite a bit about wanting it in the game. When BABs explained the complexity of what it entailed, I let it go and didn't post about it further. Here we are with this feature now in the game, so I guess I expect a lot out of them and I'll keep expecting a lot from them because they've proven that they can accomplish a lot.